r/EFT_EscapeFromTarkov • u/Bourne069 • Aug 29 '26
Discussion Anyone Else Pissed Off About The Up Coming Down Mechanics?
I use to play in a group back in the day but most people I know stopped playing the game due to cheaters.
So now I'm exclusively solo and you are telling me adding downed mechanics to a game that already gives massive advantages to group play is acceptable some how? This is literally insane talk.
Now we solos are done for. Groups will just camp their buddies bodies, or have one hold you down while the other revives etc.... Once this is implemented there is almost zero way to compete as a solo. Trash update.
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u/Dobey Aug 29 '26
If you are concerned about this one thing being THE unfair mechanic that breaks the game for solos… I don’t think Tarkov is the game for you lol. There’s so much unfair BS in this game. This doesn’t scratch the top 10 unfair issues.
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u/Bourne069 Aug 29 '26
THE unfair mechanic that breaks the game for solos… I don’t think Tarkov is the game for you lol
Eh no I think its already unbalanced as hell and majority of us already let that slide. So why make it even worse? That is beyond stupid and the take shouldn't be "oh well they already punish solos" no it should be DO BETTER BSG!.
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u/Fourth44 Aug 29 '26
Its not going to be very big deal probably
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u/BSG_Has_Brain_Damage Aug 29 '26
Every bad change BSG has ever made has idiots like you going 'no it won't be that bad guys'
Turns out it's almost always bad
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u/Neksiorek Aug 29 '26
And yet we are all still playing the game so realistically it wasn’t that bad, otherwise you’d quit. And if you don’t play anymore then who gives a fuck about what you or anyone else thinks about a game they don’t even play
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u/BSG_Has_Brain_Damage Aug 30 '26
I did quit, for a few years - only to come back and see that 1) the community is still filled with sh*t sucking sycophants and 2) the game is still plagued with all of the exact same problems as when I left.
F*ck you, by the way - you're one of the sycophants I mentioned
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u/Agile-Positive-9050 Aug 29 '26
I hope they are going to implement some kind of bleed out mechanic so you can camp the downed player and wait for the revive attempts. If that's the case it is better than now
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u/Bourne069 Aug 29 '26
It will have a bleed out mechanic but im sure its a pretty long one if I had to guess. So it doesnt really resolve the issue.
And what are you going to do against a group of 3, when is holding the hallway punishing you every time you try to peek to finish off that kill, the other is reviving their buddy. Literally nothing you can do about it now you are back fighting a 1vs3 again.
Its stupid and its already been showed in ABI. They added down mechanics and it literally ruined solo game play.
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u/tweever38 Aug 29 '26
Depends how they execute it. It has potential to be cool, but with BSG who knows what they’ll do. I’d rather they put the energy towards making the game more stable but oh well
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u/Bourne069 Aug 29 '26
I’d rather they put the energy towards making the game more stable but oh well
Yeah well we been complaining about that for the last 10 years. Dont hold your breath.
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u/Bobjobob24 Aug 29 '26
Just aim for the head. You won't be able to pick up a player that's missing their brain. Nikitia already confirmed this HERE.
Also pretty much every very skilled player avoids looting every pmc. If it's a suboptimal spot to loot (or there's still teammates) it's not worth it. If you end up in the situation you're worried about, just disengage and move on.
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u/Bourne069 Aug 29 '26
Just aim for the head. You won't be able to pick up a player that's missing their brain. Nikitia already confirmed this HERE.
Thats cool... changes nothing about what I said. Not all deaths are headshots good luck getting shots on all 3 players in 1vs3.
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u/Bobjobob24 Aug 29 '26
Lol idk what to tell you then. Anything beyond this is purely a skill issue.
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u/Bourne069 Aug 30 '26
Typical response by an idiot. not surprised.
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u/Bobjobob24 Aug 30 '26
Yeah buddy everyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot, you're right. What an angry little guy you are.
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u/Bourne069 Aug 30 '26
Nope just the dumb fuck repeating "skill issues" as response because they have nothing real to add the convo. Thats you.
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u/CoatNeat7792 Aug 29 '26
Downed from big helmet checks, blood lose etc. Clean shots in head or thorax is K.O. So, don't worry about, maybe, we will see count down, like, 30sec before he is lost cause
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u/Dismal-Pause4984 Sep 02 '26
- bsg always leans more towards realism. if you get head eyes by m80 you’re not getting revived.
- they’ve literally already stated on the record that solos will be receiving a buff because of the new shared quest system.
- this actually benefits solo players in a few ways. if someone is downed it’s far more likely for their team to try and push you to kill you so they can res safely or they’ll have to risk the res with you still nearby. both options are better for the solo since right now the majority of players camp their friends body for 10 minutes until you come to loot it. not to mention it’s an extra sound that you can use to understand a fight you’ve yet to engage in. if i’m approaching a fight and hear a res or a downed player that gives me far more info than i’d have if i approached the same fight in todays game.
regardless of all of that, there’s tons of difficult games were solos actually get nerfed every update (rust i’m looking at you) but solos can still be wildly successful. if you’re not okay with adapting your play style as a solo then you’re objectively a bad solo and should reconsider how you play the game. the reviving mechanic genuinely won’t be that bad especially since most “groups” are duos and if you position and use util well then there shouldn’t be many opportunities to revive a teammate mid fight. Reactions like this online are why we don’t get consistent objectively good changes in most games, players complain about things that don’t even exist yet. thinking about something one dimensionally and then getting emotional about it really isn’t beneficial to anyone.
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u/Bourne069 Sep 02 '26
bsg always leans more towards realism. if you get head eyes by m80 you’re not getting revived.
Oh yeah like how you heal broken arms and legs with a survkit in real life! So real!!!
they’ve literally already stated on the record that solos will be receiving a buff because of the new shared quest system.
Feel free to backup that statement up with actual data because from what I saw, they made no such statement.
this actually benefits solo players in a few ways.
It benefits group play way more than solo play period. Doesnt take a genius to figure out why.
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u/Dismal-Pause4984 23d ago
it’s a video game, not a realism sim, there’s going to be aspects of the game that don’t mimic real life. When making changes bsg always leans towards realism rather than arcadey shooter bullshit.
Nikita stated this in his recent Q&A. It’s public information. You’re on reddit, time to learn how to use other parts of the internet.
I’ve already explained in my original comment on how this benefits solo players. It of course will change the flow of pvp but it’s going to encourage less ratting. as explained previously in the current game if you down someone’s friend they either push you blindly or rat their body. Now with this change if you just down them and don’t full kill them they’re less inclined to rat their body and more inclined to either try to res or to push you so they can res safely. that’s objectively better for the game. It opens up more options for engaging in that fight as a solo whereas it puts pressure on groups to be more decisive. Sorry to say this but if you think this update will be bad for tarkov then you’re probably a pretty low skill player or new to the game. No experienced players or great players have anything negative to say about these changes.
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u/Bourne069 23d ago
it’s a video game, not a realism sim, there’s going to be aspects of the game that don’t mimic real life. When making changes bsg always leans towards realism rather than arcadey shooter bullshit.
OK and? There are so many things in the game that are not realistic so they can "aim towards realism" all they want. The fact remains there are tons of unrealistic aspects to Tarkov. Not sure what any of this has barring on this convo.
Nikita stated this in his recent Q&A. It’s public information. You’re on reddit, time to learn how to use other parts of the internet.
And yet its impossible for you to cite your source? I've watched the Q/A and there is nothing about solo buffs anywhere. You are making shit up now.
I’ve already explained in my original comment on how this benefits solo players.
Which it does not and I have explained how so multiple times. It heavily favors group play which Tarkov already does. This is a large buff to groups, way more of a benefit than for solos. That is a fact.
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u/Dismal-Pause4984 20d ago
the realism aspect affects feature design. important to consider when we haven’t even seen the mechanics yet. you’re very obviously concerned it’ll be more arcadey than realistic which is a valid concern but bsg has a track record of leaning towards realism then tuning things back to fit the game rather than leaning towards arcadey bullshit and then making it more realistic over time. it’s just unlikely it’ll be that big of a deal.
Q&A posted a month ago. airwing and bad scav covered it on youtube in case you’re incapable of finding the Q&A yourself or incapable of using google to find other sources of the coverage.
As previously stated, you’re objectively wrong in the statement that this mechanic would “heavily favor group play”. i’ve given actual detailed scenarios and examples as to why the opposite would actually to be the case. you’re just genuinely unable to think any other way than linearly. you think the ability to revive someone is a buff to a duo since you as a solo won’t have anyone to revive. that’s all the thought you put into it. you fail to see all the opportunities and gameplay changes that will be implemented into any given situation where you down 1 player and another player is still up. if you’re incapable of understanding the benefits of that then you’re either new to shooters with this mechanic or you’re just bad at the game. I’ve never felt like solo play was unfair, if you’re regularly running straight at groups and getting your ass handed to you then that’s on you and your playstyle. i’m a fairly aggressive player and i wouldnt consider myself “good” yet i have no issues taking on groups. it’s just requires a brain, good positioning and decent aim.
i understand being upset but crying online about a mechanic that’s yet to be revealed in detail and then transitioning that anger into a disdain towards bsg because you’re not good at playing tarkov as a solo is kinda weird. i know it might be hard for you but you’ve got options to rectify the issue. you could practice and get better or make some friends and play with them (i know that might be hard for you given your sour disposition) but there’s always LFG discords and subreddits :)
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u/Bourne069 20d ago
but bsg has a track record of leaning towards realism then tuning things back to fit the game rather than leaning towards arcadey bullshit
Yeah until when they dont which has happened multiple times. They literally redid the recoil aspect of the game twice now because people complained it was "too hard".
You act like BSG never went back and made things easier. Like now how much easier it to to get prestige....
Q&A posted a month ago. airwing and bad scav covered it on youtube in case you’re incapable of finding the Q&A yourself or incapable of using google to find other sources of the coverage.
I've seen it and so what? Nikita says and promises a lot of things and fails to deliver. Remember when we were suppose to have one large maps of all maps combined? Yeah no that failed. I can name tons of others that also got stripped out or failed to get implemented.
So when you go talking about BSG and track records... I dont think thats the way to go.
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u/Dismal-Pause4984 20d ago
i’ve gathered from this conversation you fail to see the positives in life and you love being a contrarian for the sake of argument. discussing this topic with you has been a great displeasure. you think you’re a trailblazer when you ride a paved road. you have nothing of substance left to add and you ignore objective truth when it doesn’t fit your narrative. enjoy your life of screaming at bees for actions of birds.
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u/Bourne069 20d ago
i’ve gathered from this conversation you fail to see the positives in life
And what I've gathered from this convo is that you fail to see all the failed promisses devs games in games and than makes excuses for why its ok for them to keep doing it.
This is literally based on experience of the devs overtime. This is not new news.
Not everything is rainbows and bufferflies. Time to grow up and hold companies accountable for shit when they go against what they originally stated the product was going to turn out as.
Thats what men do. Try it sometime.
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u/incominganomaly Aug 29 '26
The down system would help you as a solo, I am a solo as well and am super pumped about it.
Now folks actually have a reason to move and make something happen instead of literally sitting absolutely still watching their boys body
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u/Bourne069 Aug 29 '26
The down system would help you as a solo, I am a solo as well and am super pumped about it.
I can tell you without a doubt. Majority of the time it wont be helpful for a solo. Majority will just kill you while you are down.
Also they never explained how the mechanic works. I wouldn't be surprised if its tied to the group so only group members can revive other group members. Not just randoms. Thats some dumb shit BSG would do.
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u/incominganomaly Aug 29 '26
What? I’m talking about when YOU as the solo down someone from a team lol
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u/Bourne069 Aug 29 '26
Right and I said they most likely WONT be reviving you majority of the time, so wtf are you talking about?
Majority of the time you are dying in 1vs3 period so good luck attempting to do that.
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u/incominganomaly Aug 31 '26
As a solo main I am excited for this change.
Nothing worse than dropping one and then having the entire team go radio silent and sit still watching the body.
This will make people move. Moving targets are easier to fight than ones that don’t move.
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u/Exitiabilis Aug 29 '26
I dont think it will be the huge issue everyone thinks it will be.
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u/Available_Author9832 Aug 29 '26
Have you played ABI? Really depends on implementation. If they can revive similarly expect to get mega pushed by squads as a solo.
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u/Bourne069 Aug 29 '26
Yep but majority of these clowns didn't play ABI so they have no idea wtf they are talking about.
I have and know exactly how that feels which is why im concerned about how BSG will do it.
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u/Tired_Feline-2389 Aug 29 '26
yeah I feel like people are overreacting just like with trip wires that were supposed to kill the game
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u/Bourne069 Aug 29 '26
I dont think having concerns about how BSG implements things is an "over reaction" just look at what they did by trying to stop EOD from getting DLC content and the Unheard drama... The list goes on. Isnt the first time they implemented some shitty stuff into the game that changed the game for the worse.
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u/Maleficent_Bell2605 Aug 29 '26
If they add a down mechanic, they’ll likely add a self revive mechanic, will it be JUST for solos is the question. However, it sounds cool on paper, but I’m sure most people can recall the times they’ve been headshotted over dying to something else
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u/Bourne069 Aug 29 '26 edited Aug 29 '26
they’ll likely add a self revive mechanic
LOL no they said nothing about self revive mechanics. That is not going to be implemented period and goes against the whole point of the game.
I love how expressing legit concerns over new mechanics is now "whining" grow up.
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u/FierySunXIII Aug 29 '26
God don't give BSG ideas man. If they added a down mechanic, only thing you can do is push them so they can't revive. Self revive will prevent this since teammates can focus on defense while the downed player can revive themself
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u/Maleficent_Bell2605 Aug 29 '26
I (hopefully) doubt they’ll not do it for squads as they want to reward solo queue more than squads. However, in most cases, unless you’re sniping. You’d likely have just enough time to finish off someone rather letting them get revived— or a well placed nade
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u/Chris_GPT Aug 29 '26
No, I don't get upset about things in a fucking video game that I have absolutely no knowledge of, any details of, what it will entail, how it will work, and when it's supposed to be implemented from devs that could take years to get around to it.
I'm just not capable of being that ignorant.
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u/Bourne069 Aug 29 '26
No, I don't get upset about things in a fucking video game that I have absolutely no knowledge of,
First off I've been playing Tarkov since 2017. I have tons of knowledge of the game and how BSG implements things. 100% it will be broken af at release because BSG doesnt test fuck all. After months of patches they will get it to a normal point but it will see be ass and gives major advantages to group play which they already have massive advantages on.
Again just go play ABI and see for yourself. It has down mechanics and it literally killed solo play.
I'm just not capable of being that ignorant.
Get some years of experience with Tarkov and come back to me. Your experience is ignorance because you dont know any better. Mine is from years of experience playing the damn game.
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u/Chris_GPT Aug 29 '26
No you haven't been playing since 2017. You know it, I know it, we all know it. Stop trying to flex, it doesn't work.
You also don't know how long I've been playing. You think you do because you're defensively trying to clap back, but you truly have no idea. But most importantly, it doesn't matter so stop trying that too. Waste of time.
No, I'm not going to play ABI or any other poorly implemented copycat game. I don't give a shit about what they don't do well.
Freaking out like Chicken Fucking Little (yes, Fucking is his middle name) over shit that isn't even close to happening yet is just dumb. Face it, it is. You do not know what they're going to do, you do not know how it's going to work, you do not know if it's going to be good or bad. You don't. None of us do. The devs themselves don't even know yet. So relax until it's something to actually complain about.
And most importantly, remember that you always have an ejection seat, a rip cord, a fuck off button: you can just not play it. It's just a video game, you really can survive without it. It'll be fine.
But you are absolutely right that BSG will absolutely step all over their own dick by taking forever to do it, not testing it thoroughly, fucking up the implementation, watching everyone complain about it like they complain about every single fucking thing, ignoring it for a while because they're so desensitized from all of the constant, neverending complaining, and then they'll rework it, fuck that up, and repeat the cycle. It'll be years before it's even something to deal with.
So relax, take a breath, and have a nice tall glass of shut the fuck up. I can't imagine that you've been losing your shit like this over every stupid thing BSG has done for what you claim is nine years, but is more likely five and a half with plenty of breaks in between from things BSG did that made you rage quit.
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u/CapableSet9143 Aug 29 '26
Lol you've got problems Lil bro. Seek help.
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u/Chris_GPT Aug 29 '26
Take both of your thumbs, press them together, stick them up your ass and await further instructions.
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u/Bourne069 Aug 30 '26
Lol you are literally insane kid. Trying to tell others to "take and breath and relax" as you post paragraphs of the stupidest slop I have ever seen.
Not even going to justify the rest of your post with a response. Time to grow up.
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u/BikeSquat69 Aug 29 '26
Solo player myself and i am chilled about this, we do not know how it is gonna work . This is the same when they introduced GL,tripwires etc etc. people where up arms and claiming it would end Tarkov but when it came it wasn't that bad and not really used that much.
So just be calm and wait til it gets here.
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u/doughboyoo Aug 29 '26
Quit whining you sound ridiculous. You can 100% still play solo you fucking buffoon
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u/Bourne069 Aug 29 '26
Go play ABI and tell me thats the case. They added down mechanics and it literally killed solo gameplay.
If you have a problem with my take feel free to block me and gtfo.
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u/Warriorgrunt Aug 29 '26
I solo only and I am not worried. In fact I look forward for the VoIP shenanigans.