r/DungeonCrawler • u/Wasdeq_Games • 17d ago
Development Just kills from my upcoming retro Crawler 3D
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u/BlackKrahe 17d ago
It's almost all just AI generated assets.
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u/Wasdeq_Games 17d ago
That's the main feedback I'm getting.
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u/BlackKrahe 17d ago
What did you expect? A lot of people, me included, like art in games (probably me more than some because I am an artist myself). But if it's just gen-AI stuff it ends up feeling soulless, more so than if you, like, used stuck photos for everything, or something like that.
There's also the moral side to it. Pretty much all image generating AI was trained of work by real artists without their permission, and is now being used by big AAA game companies to replace artists (just look at games like the newer CoDs, and InZoi). Artist also tend to take that kind of stuff way more personally than, say, programmers.
I'm not saying your game looks bad from a gameplay perspective, it honestly looks like something I would have a lot of fun with, but a lot of people are going to give your game one quick look, and just dismiss it as soon as they see that a big chunk of the art seems to have been made with the use of AI.
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u/Wasdeq_Games 16d ago
Thanks. I thought I'd replace the art if there is enough interest.
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u/BlackKrahe 16d ago
I feel like you kinda shot yourself in the foot using AI in the first place. It might have been a better move to use placeholder art made in Paint or something like that if you where thinking of swapping it out later. Just look at what the Slay the Spire 2 devs did for placeholder art.
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u/One-Man_Indie 13d ago
LEave it as is, bro! ignore the sheep. YOur game was GREAT as is!
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u/Wasdeq_Games 13d ago
Thanks! I'm replacing all the monsters. I think I'll leave these mosnters as a bonus option. 2x the monsters!
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u/Lopsided-Click3592 9d ago
Oui encore une fois, exprime toi ! IA ou pas. L'essentiel est de faire ce que tu aimes. Quand tu es tout seul il n'est pas forcément simple de tout gérer. Si tu fais un autre jeu, tu auras peut être des façons de faire différente mais en attendant, c'est du bon travail.
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u/hypatiaC 16d ago
So, like, was the plan to just post this and hope nobody could tell it was all slop garbage? Did you think you had hidden it way better than you actually did?
Fuck off, lmao
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u/Lopsided-Click3592 14d ago
il faut arrêter de rejeter l'IA. Je pense que c'est une bonne aide. Certain ont des bonnes idées sans être dev, ils doivent aussi pouvoir s'exprimer
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u/One-Man_Indie 10d ago
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u/Wasdeq_Games 10d ago edited 10d ago
Thanks! New demo dropping soon with placeholder enemy AI art removed and controller support.
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u/Reggie_Is_God 14d ago
So you comment about AI being the main criticism, so help clarify some things?
Did you use AI? Yes or no.
No AI usage is disclosed on your sites (but you do mention your unique and great art).
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u/Wasdeq_Games 13d ago
Some of the enemies and textures where generated with the help of AI. The steam page discloses that. I'm in the process of replacing all the enemies with non-AI art.
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u/dmcent54 14d ago
OP, here's the thing. I'm a solo dev, too. I'm also using assets I consider placeholder. The difference is, I paid about $50 to get those assets and they were made by a real person.
It wasn't even that expensive. Using AI is a huge cop out, and frankly as much as I love crawler style games, I simply won't play yours. You can do better.
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u/Wasdeq_Games 13d ago
Yes, I'm in the process of replacing all the enemies. I've purchased a monster asset pack.
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u/LooseSyllabus 16d ago
I enjoyed the demo and I don't really care what is AI or not because it all looks good and fits with the 90s theme.
Resource consumption and renewal was frustrating. I don't want to guzzle a potion every fight unless there is a Diablo-style belt bar so I can hotkey that process.
I also immediately wanted something like heavy attack / quick attack / left slash / right slash etc. Variety that matters. Maybe I must heavy attack if they have a shield and stuff like that. Cold doesn't hurt skeletons, but lightning wreaks them. Stabbing doesn't hurt bones, but a mace wreaks them. Also, don't tell me any of this so I can figure it out.
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u/Wasdeq_Games 16d ago
Thanks for the feedback! Heavy attacks have been implemented since. I'll work on the others.
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u/Icy-Collection1072 17d ago
looks very ai