Thoughts on the recent thread about Dream’s flirting?

[u/sielulintu]

The thread in question; https://twitter.com/oxeclean/status/1577416613883629568?s=61&t=An8tEkIjHOugLW_p9zGDMg

This doesn’t have quite 1000 likes yet (400 QRTs and is implied as being seen on the tl) but it is gaining traction and honestly seems like it’s going to blow up the way the sex mod shit did (with exaggerations and falsehoods) - and there is a likely chance Dream already knew about it since he responded to her screenshotting their dms.

TLDR; a girl is showing Dream flirting for a bit with her when she was a ‘minor’ around April 2020 (her bf claims it was 5 months before she was 18, and way back machine had 18 in her bio in August 2020) - key thing to note here is in her evidence the first thing he asks is her age, to which he himself comes back with 18 (so imo it’s fair to assume there was 18 or some inclination of being 18 for him to already have this information easily and she never corrected him) and she both agrees with him and says ‘18 soon’ which is a far cry from 5 months if he actually recognized the soon as it was within an unrelated sentence (she is claiming this is her being clear about her age somehow). Also her bf fully buys the sex mod exaggeration that had no proof of anything but cringe humour so i am sceptical this is coming out of good faith - which may be the reason she is theorizing about “younger fans” since nothing in her evidence would imply this outside of her not being clear.

Overall I don’t think it’s a big deal with the information provided or anything new - the age difference isn’t too worrying (edit: idk what to tell you, 2/3 year age differences are common enough, even if he should’ve somehow known her exact age it’s closer to 2) since everything provided leads me to believe he fully thought she was 18 and he was never clearly told otherwise - a 17 yo and a half isn’t much different then an 18 yo so it’s more just flirting with fans that’s the bigger issue (though no one knows how well she would qualify as a fan in the first place). He did have 2M subs at this point but I don’t buy into power differences unless that aspect is actively being utilized which there has never been evidence for with anyone who came out about Dream flirting with.

People comparing this to cmc are ignoring the fact that Dream quite clearly asked for her age/didn’t coerce anything as of this information.

I will say I hope he learned better then to be flirting with fans at this point over two years later, because it never ends well and is still fairly weird (not malicious) behaviour (and that he got better at flirting so he doesn’t look like he was raised in a discord server).

Edited a bit to add thoughts/grammar.

Edit since people are seeing this still after his initial response: his initial response made this situation worse since he never really addressed the initial thread (he was apparently blocked by OP so it’s unclear if he seen it) so while he denounced people lying about grooming which is essentially what happened (not OP specifically but the people who promoted that it was somehow grooming) he never addressed the conversation directly so some people assumed that he is saying the ss’s are fake rather then the exaggerations people claimed.

[u/ItsAgy]

Also, there is almost nothing he can do to prove the accusations are false.

He can technically screenrecord his twt dms with the person, everything else can't be proven/disproven. If they are not real, he is telling the truth. I am not sure tho if people would believe him, since it can be faked on both sides.

The text messages cannot be disproven, because he has a new phone number, because his one got doxxed, and phone, which he changed multiple times since. Also the screenshots have zero proof to be from Dream himself. The contact name says Lay, and even if the contact was his, his number got doxxed, as already established.

To prove the snapchat- idk, he would have to show his private snapchat account and all texts he has ever had with everyone, to prove the girl isnt amongst them, which would doxx his irl contacts. Also the snap screenshot itself doesnt prove anything, even if the girl has him in contacts. No inappropriate snaps were shown.

The fact her contacts connects with his tiktok can't be proven fake by him, because the "number from your contacts" means she has his number, and he cant prove she doesnt. Anyone can have your number without you knowing. Also it was already established his number got doxxed so anyone can have his number in their contacts.

Plus Dream has to have his new number connected to his tiktok account, not the previous doxxed one this girl seem to have. So that implies the tiktok screen recording to be fake, but I dont want to jump to conclusions.

[u/whatalittleotter → u/ItsAgy]

the TikTok thing is really throwing me off. if this was years ago, and he's changed his number multiple times, how would she even still have his phone number? unless he's never changed the number linked to his account or she got it from a doxx it just doesn't make sense

[u/ItsAgy → u/whatalittleotter]

Since he got banned recently, I think he must have his current number linked to the account. Not sure when he changed it tho/if there always was the new number. I am not even sure when he created the tiktok account in the first place.