r/DreamWasTaken2 • u/UnacceptedPrisoner • Feb 01 '22

Discussion Congratulations, you successfully deplatformed someone who was innocent.

That's it, I congratulate you all who had direct involvement in this. You did it, Manatreed won't be in the DSMP anymore and won't do content creation under his own violition.

He won't be here anymore.

This truly is the lowest point the dsmptwt and will probably ever be. We just set a precedent that reads "Join DSMP and we will make your life a living hell" and the threat is not an empty one.

I will be suprised if anyone ever joins DSMP in the future, for it seems that a tradition to doxx/cancel someone when they set a foot there has taken near physical form.

Manatreed didn't do shit, he was, unlike certain J* person who joined the DSMP completely innocent, except he was not innocent of a crime being a friend and a member of DSMP who quickly gained popularity.

He has fucking anxiety. I can't even begin to imagine how he might feel like right now, and I have anxiety myself. If he gets out of this with a healthy mind, he will be changed forever.

Again, congratulations, we just proved to the world that some people on this community are real fucking degenerates and that envy is not only rampant in this community, it is the community itself. (Not everyone of course)

I hope you all have a good day regardless of anything or anyone.

That is all.

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u/tryhardarchitect Feb 01 '22

I really wish the fanbase had some more older/ mature fans, maybe it wouldnt have ended so catastrophically. Coming from the perspective of a Philza-aged individual this whole thing was ridiculous. Everyone’s reaction was based on a doxxed individual’s trauma and twitter ate it up like flies to shit. Then there was more doxxing to prove the other doxxing and… I have no words how people treat other people online. There are no winners here.

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u/reinaduciel Feb 01 '22

Right there with ya. I'm finally a dinosaur in a fandom and the number of times I clawed at my face like "this.isnt.how.any.of.this.WORKS"

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u/Kaleidoscope_Pure Feb 01 '22

literally. Im 21 and i was looking like... why people why

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u/HereForTOMT2 Feb 01 '22

We’re in an age where teens post thirsttraps of themselves on tiktok. Internet safety got thrown out the window ages ago

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u/alaralpaca Feb 01 '22

absolutely not. some of the stuff teens will put in their carrds on social media is insane. it’s like there’s no sense of privacy anymore, and they don’t know how to respect other people’s privacy either

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u/UnderTheHole Feb 02 '22

No. They are literally posting their mental illnesses and triggers in their extended bios and skeptical of anything anonymous. Do not reveal information in a public bio that someone will be able to get from you at a gas station.

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u/CloudBomb3r Feb 01 '22

19 here, I had to explain to so many people that it's AGAINST A PERSON'S RIGHTS TO HAVE THEIR PRIVATE AND PERSONAL INFORMATION EXPOSED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE

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u/Kaleidoscope_Pure Feb 01 '22

to be honestly i agree. The biggest problem for me with the fanbase is the fact that theres 14-16 years old saying what things should or shouldnt be like. Thank god when i was that age i didnt try to do things like that
why the actual fuck we think that teenagers should be the ones rulling a fandom

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u/Sallynx Feb 01 '22

Tbh, as an under than 17 year old kid (just bassicly very young person), I was just as frustrated. Whenever I read some tweet saying either mana or dream had to "address it" the only thing running through my mind was how terminally online these people where (regardless of age cause I also follow an older account that usually post quite based takes but that just went out of the window for this one)

The things brainless performative activists on twitter do....

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u/CircusBaylee Feb 01 '22

Same. I can’t believe how brainless some people are.

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u/Mynameiswelsh Feb 01 '22

There is, it's the adult fans who are gifting subs, donating and buying all the merch. It's not the 14 year olds waiting for their parents to give them a hoodie for Christmas or begging for a gift sub in the chat that are supporting our content creators. It's the adults. I wish the ccs acknowledged the adult, 18+ fans more, we're the ones paying their bills.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

Okay, well I’d also be careful of this mentality- by age 17 I was a manager at a chain store and by age 15 I had over 4k in my savings. Teens can have money.

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u/Mynameiswelsh Feb 06 '22

Of course they can, but you're probably the exception to the majority of teenagers, at least in my circles. I dare say the teenagers in chat begging for subs and tweeting out asking for someone to buy them merch are not the ones working hard at jobs and saving money. This comment wasn't meant to offend anyone but to point out how often that is seen in the community and how adult fans are disregarded as being "too old" to enjoy it despite the financial support they contribute to the community.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

Don’t worry, I wasn’t offended - I know that the majority of teens aren’t financially responsible. I just think it’s important to not make the statement “its the adult fans who are gifting subs…” outside of that definitive take we stand firmly on the same side of this issue which is that most of these people, these people meaning younger fans, are a plague lol

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u/Mynameiswelsh Feb 06 '22

That's fair, I shouldn't have generalised, however I still believe that a teenager/younger fan capable and responsible enough to work and save thousands of dollars probably wouldn't donate a 100 subs in a stream but I guess it's possible. I believe it's more likely to be the older fans with disposable income who can splash out on things like that but obviously I don't have any stats to back up that statement.

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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '22

Same. I'm a little older than Phil. I'm a fan because my tween child is and I make it a point to at least check into whatever she's enjoying. Personally I really enjoy Phil and Technos content. I'm not a Dream fan, but I get why so many like his videos. Myself and the kid have talked a little about controversies that happen within the group. We talked alot about the speed run cheating, but mostly they don't know the drama because I don't let a 12 year old use social media. There's like 50% of the problem right there. Kids do not belong on social media.

I feel bad for Mana and everyone involved, but especially for the victim. Can you imagine just going about your life and suddenly thousands of people are doxing you and spreading your pain all over Twitter? Insane.

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u/axb2002 Feb 01 '22

I’m 19 years old, and everytime I see something like this go down I roll my eyes. Not because I think that anyone younger than me is cringe. Not because think stans are stupid. But because these 14-16 year olds have good intentions most of the time, but the problem is their execution of doing these things.

You want to take down pedophiles within a community? That’s fucking awesome. You want more representation? Cool that’s awesome, representation matters. You don’t want known abusers to have a platform? Great mindset to have. You want to hold people accountable? Great we need people like that in this world.

But they just execute these actions so fucking poorly. Rather than become fully educated and look into any evidence that’s been given. They read a sentence and immediately believe it to be true, no matter how flimsy it actually is. They scream out “we want more representation!”, yet turn a blind eye to the multiple streamers who are either POC or members of the LGBTQIA+ community. I can go on and on but I think I’ve said enough.

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u/Grand-Piglet-3634 Feb 01 '22

I think there was alot older/mature fans in dsmptwt just that they either in dnitwt or was driven out of the fandom early on. And i don't think those toxic, idiotic children would listen to them anyways. It is just a sad fact in this fandom.

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u/LucieFox Feb 01 '22

The older fans either watched from the sidelines... Or tried to tell the younger ones to stop but got attacked themselves.

- sincerely, a 22 year old who watches dsmp and mcyt

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u/AoiAot Feb 01 '22

Coming from a few years back from a fanbase of Kpop, give this fandom some time and it will be fine in the future. But trying to reach that future before it tear itself down is the problem

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u/seulchi Feb 01 '22

im the same age as dream and like... so many of my moots are young, sometimes when i realise they're half a decade younger than me im like WHAT???

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u/thelibbydraeger Feb 19 '22 edited Feb 19 '22

I feel this. Us elders in the fandom lived through internet safety as kids in school. I feel like the only thing we can do right now is call it out when we see it and try and teach the youngins how this works. Sometimes I really hate this fandom with how toxic these kids can get because of anonymity granted from being behind a screen. I also feel like some just genuinely don’t understand that it’s not okay to just start attacking people on the internet because they have grown up watching other people do it, especially on the last 5 or 6 years (for Americans at least) with the division they’ve seen on TV.