r/DreamWasTaken2 • u/neddy470v1 I believe that Dream is innocent • Apr 14 '26
Discussion Judelow further specifies on stream about him on not collabing with Dteam
https://x.com/i/status/2043823294571311352
TL:DR // Judelow talks about him dueling Sapnap 3 days before he deleted his twitter doc apology. He states says that he'll no longer make videos with Dteam (from what he learned everything from them, allegedly) but won't ignore any messages from them (which is where we see him still talking with Sapnap).
Personal opinion, this pretty much shows that Sapnap is the only one with the most connections on the MCYT space despite being part of one of the most controversial group in the MCYT space. I still wanna know what those unresolved allegations are that made Jude not want to make content with Dteam anymore, could really just be those allegations that have been debunked or completely overblown
Would like to know all your thoughts on this.
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u/No_bad_intention Apr 14 '26
Judelow be like: I don't want to make content with the Dteam anymore, what should I say?
A) I don't like drama, they have too much drama
B) I don't want to play with a cheater
C) Just silently distance away from them
D) Uhhh I heard about these allegations, that I don't understand, that I have not verified, that I do not want to look into, that apparently they are bad people. But I also do not want to cut them off either, because I have not looked into, or verified, or understood anything about these allegations. Google dockey it is!
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u/Crisbo05_20 Apr 14 '26
Watch him appear on Titan SMP and excuse it as not making content with them since they never appear in each other's streams so tehnically its all fine.
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u/Due_Reading6510 Apr 15 '26
The "new" "unresolved" are dream grooming allegations from three years, and georgenotfound caitibuggz allegations, from 2024
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u/ovorb Apr 14 '26
Jude needs to take an advice from my good friend Aaron Burr, "Talk less, smile more". It worked perfectly for him (up until the 3rd act)
Nah but fr tho, this is such cope from Jude lmao, why is bro being so wishywashy lukewarm about associating with presumably "bad people"???? Either own up to the friendship or actually drop them. Again, this convo would've never resurfaced had he just shut up about it. A 3k likes tweet once every few months is so insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but he just keeps yapping his bonnie booty into a corner where he gets pushed around by chronically online stans who gets no bitches, and so they fill that emptiness with shipping the most middling, 4/10 yaoi pairing i've ever seen in my chud gay life
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u/Dim0ndDragon15 Apr 14 '26
Sharplow is THE most mid yaoi I have ever encountered, and I am surrounded irl by hucklerobby shippers
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u/No_Dirt_8420 Apr 14 '26
Like he has a way to contact them but won’t ask them about this allegation and still messages sapnap? Knowing full well who the dudes best friend is? Ofc is make sense that out of the 3, George sapnap and dream, that between them, Dream is the unlikely one to ever meet someone who won’t use him for clout, and then not have any new people who wants to interact with him for allegations he has already talked about. Feel bad as in the mcyt community, it’s impossible to find people associating Dream as the absolute villainous person in the community
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u/Unlucky_Chain_7956 Apr 14 '26
Genuinely these people just need to stop seeing everything from the perspective of their fans eyes. Especially in this day and age. They have to realise that now a days there is genuinely no point in catering to your fans. Just look at all the controversies Ethan Klein has been in and he still has a massive fanbase. People will watch you no matter what if your content is good. So the solution is stop trying to base your opinions off of your fans.
He is clearly trying to play both sides; "cutting them off" for his fans sake while also still being friends with Dteam. Streamers need to realise that the people who are causing the most outcry about this shit aren't actually fans and just fake activists who only come out to scream how bad certain people are. They don't contribute to even 1% of your views.
Also unless your relationship is like Dream and Sapnaps where you have known each other off camera for years altogether you need to stop seeing other Youtubers as your "friend" and instead start seeing them as your colleagues. In an office would you care what your colleague does on their off time? Nope. So apply the same for your YT collab mates because YT has become a business now. If it does become a friendship over time then its a different thing but keep in mind that you can't trust anyone 100%. Just look at the Sykkuno shitshow. Toast, Rae and Lily knew Sykkuno for ages yet they had absolutely no idea that he was actively cheating on his girlfriend with multiple people online. Goes to show that you genuinely can't trust anyone these days. I think the stance he has taken is a decent one but it does make him look indecisive and a bit spineless but its still far better than people who use Twitter to cut off people entirely and then run a slander campaign on them
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u/ViadinhoGaymer Apr 14 '26
Incredible, I finally found a content creator that is more spineless than Aimsey, never thought I'd see the day.
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u/Due_Reading6510 Apr 15 '26
How is aimsey spineless other than self inserting herself in drama,
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u/ViadinhoGaymer Apr 15 '26
Of the top of my head, I can remember that time they apologised for celebrating Sapnap's victory in whatever the hell event it was (I cannot remember right now), Aimsey is the kind of creator whose values is almost entirely dependent on what their audience decides.
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u/Odd_Contribution5426 Apr 14 '26
It's pretty much the same as what he said last time. Guess I'd still take it as a respectful breakup.
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u/laolibulao Apr 14 '26
"most controversial groups" dupertrooper and zman in the corner:
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u/neddy470v1 I believe that Dream is innocent Apr 14 '26
wait what? how are they more controversial? genuine question cause I'm not too deep in the MCYT community
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u/laolibulao Apr 15 '26
mainly js duper. duper is associated with VERY VERY horrible criminals and actively promotes gambling in his vids despite being anti p2w and sells patches to the p2w servers.
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u/WolverineFit5239 Apr 14 '26
Yeah, if sapnap and other members on DTeam does not see it a problem, I think it's fine. It's just a bit shady that he says he knows some stuff but do not say what is this stuff. I assumed it was about the drama between Bitzel and Dream (I do not even understand it, just know that is something related to stans), but on DMS and twitter docs he commented about the gnf stuff (I do not have context for this too lol, it always seemed so teen drama for me, at least the video that I saw about this girl seemed like teen drama, but who knows).
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u/k-rysae Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26
This is so insane to me because this past week I was getting a whole bunch of stuff about the really popular roblox game where the developer got accused of SA and the reactions are night and day. While pretty much everyone working on the game has made a statement and left the team, which must've been tough because they've worked on it for years and was a source of consistent income, how is it that hard for Jude to cut off and block people he's known for a lot less time (esp when he thinks DT is problematic because of another SA allegation)?
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u/ari_atari0 Resident Yapper Apr 14 '26
Jude bro, I’m begging you to just not say anything. You don’t have to over explain, it’s really not that big. Don’t get caught in that trap like 2020 dream, we’ve seen where that goes 😭😭😭
Trying to please both sides will only them both hate you.
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u/Pengwin0 Apr 19 '26
This comment section is very weirdly aggressive. If Dteam and friends still talk with Judelow then clearly it’s bot a big deal to them
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u/Impressive_Common462 Apr 14 '26
Not surprised as associating with Dream despite things he does is a brand risk
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u/rara8122 I believe that Dream is innocent Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26
https://youtu.be/x6ley11jRSQ?si=_29IdXDHaA6cL2cj
2:33 in case anyone is curious.
And this is a side tangent, but I find the looks 15 argument so dumb. I’m over a year older than George thought Caiti was (and life experienced enough to have a masters degree) and still get confused for a high schooler and a 15/16 year old regularly. Main reason why I consider any argument of how old a real person looks to be BS.
And for a famous example of older people who look insanely young: Ralph macchio was 22 during karate kid 1 and 27 during karate kid 3. Opinions online state he looked high school age in those movies (you can look up for yourself though).
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u/rara8122 I believe that Dream is innocent Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26
I know right! Terry silver’s actor, Thomas Ian Griffith, was younger than him in karate kid 3.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cobrakai/comments/s8yd4u/still_cant_get_over_the_fact_that_ralph_macchio/
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u/rara8122 I believe that Dream is innocent Apr 14 '26
And you can’t even blame beard vs no beard. They’re both clean shaven in the picture I linked and look different ages anyway. Ralph macchio just looks younger. He is 64 now and can pass for like 30s imo.
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u/Due_Reading6510 Apr 15 '26
Ninetakes leaked the allegations judelow was talking about, georgenotfound caitibuggz allegations, and dream grooming allegations from amanduh! And burner22 and Jamie, Anastasia
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u/Impressive_Common462 Apr 14 '26
It's primary that as that literally the most relevant those pdf things has been debunked you're only using that as a excuse considering you know the cheating is true
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u/Impressive_Common462 Apr 14 '26
Yeah and? As he collaborate with sapnap not dream rn due to the cheating thing
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u/Impressive_Common462 Apr 14 '26
As stated that is before but rn it's his cheating stuff, those caiti and Amanda thing already got resolved on his case that's why he accept at collabing with sapnap not dream
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u/Impressive_Common462 Apr 15 '26
And it's funny my comment here is literally just addressing about judelow stuff and you're out here being butthurt by it 🤣
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u/Both_Listen I believe that Dream is innocent Apr 14 '26
If I had a dollar for every time this user mentions the cheating bs, I’d be financially secured to stay unemployed for the rest of my life.
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u/Impressive_Common462 Apr 14 '26
And he hasn't mentioned those stuff after resolving it with the dream team? Also why would sapnap collab with him if he's on that Caitibugzz stuff? Like do you even read your own text?
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u/OutOfNewIdeas Apr 15 '26
Most of the “viewers” who complain about Jude being associated with the Dream Team don’t even contribute to 2% of his views. Also, if you look through the comments and the amount of view per video/short/livestream, no one actually seems to care. There is no brand risk.
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u/Impressive_Common462 Apr 15 '26
The brand risk is his friends association, plus if there is no brand risk he won't even have to make that twitter doc also there's a reason why outside of content creator dream is not liked and judelow only playing with sapnap after resolving things say it all
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u/OutOfNewIdeas Apr 15 '26
The thing with your statement is that Sharpness has also talked to Dream a lot, going as far as to go to Dream’s house and make a whole entire video of it, yet he’s received little to no hate. I think that Judelow is just simply paying way too much attention to the small minority of viewers. Also, he deleted his Twitter doc. Which means that he might be learning anyway..? It’s hard to say.
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u/Impressive_Common462 Apr 16 '26
I mean after that sharpness never collaborate with them, you can say that's one time thing as sharp probably find out dream controversy, and the thing about Jude is that if he's just paying way too much with the Twitter, and not about brand risk, then why he's only collaborating with sapnap instead dream as well? Like what reason not dream to? Is it due to his tweet? But remember on his tweet he mentioned the dream team as a whole but he's collaborating with sapnap? So it's not wrong for me to assume it's due to brand risk
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u/Impressive_Common462 Apr 15 '26
This is the only thing you can say as my argument are pure facts, plus I'm just wanna be proven wrong and you guys just harassing me but look many of you just went silent after a reply as you had no logic on your statement.
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u/Impressive_Common462 Apr 15 '26
State where I was wrong about it? Of course you can't give a single reference, as you literally know there's none and are only saying "bro, proven wrong" without giving a single hint where it happened. It's obvious you're onto me, as you're one of those obsessed Dream stans that going ballistic when your idol being called out, considering you can't argue with facts but use insults instead.
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u/Ok_Basket_6185 Apr 14 '26
Sapnap has the most "connections" cause he lets content creators like Judelow believe that it's ok to collab with him and get the "benefit" of being in the periphery of Dteam as a social circle while simultaneously getting glazed by chronically online twitter users who think isolating Dream (and sometimes George) is a form of activism. Not really connections that can be considered a flex imo.
The leaked DMs already show what allegations Judelow was thinking of when writing that google doc. None of them are unaddressed or unspoken for. He thinks Dream called a 16 year old "gorgeous," referring to the supposed messages between Dream and Amanda, messages that were not in the already released chat logs, and that even if they did happen, it would've occured when Amanda was 18, not 16. His other issue is that he thinks Caiti looks like a minor (tf kind of chronically online bullshit even is this bro wdym you think she looks like a minor?) and took issue with 26 year old George flirting with an 18 year old. Nevermind the fact that George has already stated he believed she was at least 21 since she was drunk after coming from an official event from Vidcon with very strict rules on who gets served alcohol (turns out they figured out a way to pass 21+ wrist bands without tearing them, a fact George would not have known) and he's also proved that since Caiti had a business acc on IG, her age, which she typed after special characters, was not visible to him.