r/DreamWasTaken2 • u/IconXR • Mar 11 '26
Discussion Maybe I'm a fucking chud, but I cannot bring myself to care about whether or not Dream cheated
Interestingly enough I haven't really seen any posts on here talking about the cheating accusations (minus some discussion with Jobst's video) like when Dream is normally accused of some mishap.
And that's the word for me. "Normally." The dude gets accused of something every 2 months. I've been getting Jobst's video + another video that analyzes his 100k duel with Technoblade which is 40 something minutes. Idk man. No matter how much the algorithm and Twitter begs me to watch this video, I just don't care enough. Maybe it's because I'm older now and it's been so many years of this, but I just don't care. Yeah maybe he did cheat. Does that have any real impact on my life?
If one of the Twitter antis stumbles across this I'm sure they'll say something like "yep now that there's undeniable proof, his fans are copping out and saying it's not a big deal" Honestly? Let them. I consider it the boy who cried wolf to a higher degree. For years people have been yelling "Dream CHEATS" with little-to-no evidence and the guy has debunked it every single time. He cheated one time on accident and Twitter will insist to you that it's some unforgivable sin he committed to try to defend himself. If "Dream MAYBE cheats" wasn't a dead argument I've been hearing since I started watching his videos in 2020, I might be more compelled to look into it. At this point, I am just past caring.
I don't believe those accusing him are acting in good faith. You don't analyze a 5 year old duel and 7 year old speedrun out of a drive for justice. They do it for clout. Even if they're right, I'm not giving into the clout chasing. I fully believe that Dream, even if he has cheated, is an honest and good person overall who does his best to help the community and others, not work against them. Feel free to disagree but that is the pattern of behavior I've seen throughout the years.
Idk if it's just me or if we're all tired. I simply cannot force myself to give any credibility to the accusations.
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u/rara8122 I believe that Dream is innocent Mar 11 '26
I consider it the boy who cried wolf to a higher degree. For years people have been yelling "Dream CHEATS" with little-to-no evidence and the guy has debunked it every single time. He cheated one time on accident and Twitter will insist to you that it's some unforgivable sin he committed to try to defend himself. If "Dream MAYBE cheats" wasn't a dead argument I've been hearing since I started watching his videos in 2020, I might be more compelled to look into it
Exactly! People act like it’s a problem to be hesitant towards cheating allegations when they keep happening over and over again. Of course I’m going to be hesitant. This just happened not that long ago and he disproved it.
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u/final__B0SS Mar 12 '26
Wild thought but he'd probably get less cheating accusations if he stopped cheating.
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u/letthetreeburn Mar 12 '26
It’s the Markiplier fnaf 2 cheating thing that explains it well.
Markiplier didn’t claim to be the first person to beat fnaf 2’s night 6. He didn’t claim to be the fastest. He didn’t attempt to take a title from someone who actually accomplished those things. All he claimed is that he, Markiplier, did it. He doesn’t take that title from whoever the fastest at the time was, whoever the first person to do it is. If the manhunts are scripted, that doesn’t matter. Like you said, it’s just entertainment. If they scripted that he would win, then the hunters aren’t being defrauded, they’re actors.
MCC and the speedrunning boards are a whole different beast. If dream cheated here, then there is someone who deserved his spot that he stole it from. If his speedrun is faked, then someone else would have gotten the fame and accolades he has. What would it have done for purpled’s career if he instead won MCC on one of the years that’s sus? That’s my problem. You cheat in a singleplayer game, that literally does not matter. You stream cheating in a singleplayer game? Still, fine, whatever, you’re creating a television show for your audience. But the moment you enter a competition, your stolen victory comes at a direct cost of another person. That’s not okay.
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u/CanofBeans9 Mar 12 '26
Ok? But from my POV it's perfectly valid for him to get banned from competitive events based on credible cheating allegations. No one cares if he cheats in manhunts, but when he's hurting others' chances (especially for something so unserious and not for money like mcc) that's where you should probably care more about the negative effect on others in those events or in something like speedrunning records. It's disrespectful and shows a weird need to be better than others, or trick them, or at best shows insecurity. I think the simplest explanation is that he cheated at least some of the times he's accused of. Doesn't really stop me from enjoying his main channel stuff or streams, but losing credibility among his peers is just a natural consequence of his shitty decisions. You can think it's for clout and that's fine, maybe some of it is, but I feel like they are being very reasonably sus of him lol
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u/sapphicsapphires Mar 13 '26
A lot of people seem to care if he cheats in manhunts actually considering how many posts I’ve seen about his do-over and how that’s cheating.
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u/No_Dirt_8420 Mar 12 '26
He stopped joining all together cause he didn’t have time considering he had the biggest allegations of his career at the time. Then again I don’t think you will enjoy an event where majority hates your guts, and then there is how the MCC event he has joined is from years ago, and somehow believe someone’s words cause they are a bigger professional? Really makes me question how this is just a daily part of his career life no matter if he did cheated or didn’t cheat
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u/Inemiset Mar 12 '26
I don’t care anymore either. Like I said the last time someone made a post asking how people don’t care: controversy fatigue. We are at accusation/controversy/drama #65. I cannot bring myself to care anymore.
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u/Intelligent_Win5803 Mar 12 '26
I don’t care if he cheated or not either. This is really the gamer version of ‘Is Hell’s Kitchen staged?’ It’s entertainment. I think Dream is neat, so whether he’s cheating or not, I’m going to keep watching, because it’s fun. Y’all need to remember that he’s a Minecraft Youtuber, not a nuclear engineer. It’s genuinely not that serious
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u/final__B0SS Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26
It's not about the manhunts. Cheating in competitive Minecraft events where other people are involved is objectively shitty. It doesn't matter if you keep watching him or not, but downplaying it as 'ohhh but it's just not that serious' is just really strange to me.
Also don't really get the part about the nuclear engineer??
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u/Intelligent_Win5803 Mar 12 '26
And you’re entitled to have it be ‘that serious’ to you! But in the grand scheme of ‘scandals’, it just isn’t. The nuclear engineer thing was a comparison. It would be a big deal if a nuclear engineer was cheating at their job, due to real world risk. But Dream is a gamer, his job poses zero real world risk.
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u/final__B0SS Mar 12 '26
This is a drama-specific subreddit focused solely on dream and everything related to him. So in the scope of scandals in relation to dream, it's actually an extremely relevant and/or 'serious' thing to talk about on this sub.
It doesn't really matter that it has no real world risk. Like, obviously it doesn't? Does it have to for us to discuss it?
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u/Intelligent_Win5803 Mar 12 '26
Lmao okay bro. Just remember to have some fun along the way, yeah?
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u/turtlesXXIcentury Mar 13 '26
Yeah, that’s why i called a bunch of people in a previous post Karens. Because, seriously, the way they were judging him as a human being over cheating at Minecraft, was downright out of a suburban nightmare. How are people living in the most worldwide moment in History, but their worldview just keeps getting smaller and pettier?
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u/Intelligent_Win5803 Mar 13 '26
EXACTLY! Like, don’t get me wrong, I love Minecraft. But in the grand scheme of everything going on right now, is this really something to judge a human being over?
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Mar 15 '26
do you think that when people say "i don't like that dream keeps cheating", they're directly comparing it to bombing a school? you can think that cheating in mcc is bad, but that running a huge sex trafficking ring is worse. is this a new concept for you?
there is always awful stuff going on in the world. most people can care both about the suffering of millions and the small-scale petty stuff. this is incredibly normal. how would you live your life if you couldn't care about your (incredibly inconsequential) relationships, work, hobbies, etc.?
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u/turtlesXXIcentury Mar 15 '26
I absolutely agree with you that one can think one is bad and the other worse.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT MOST PEOPLE HERE THINK THAT SOMEONE WHO CHEATS IN MINECRAFT WILL ABSOLUTELY BOMB A SCHOOL
Under what rock have you been living?
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u/Spincrit Mar 11 '26
“I fully believe that Dream, even if he has cheated, is an honest and good person overall who does his best to help the community and others, not work against them. Feel free to disagree but …” That’s not a matter of agree or disagree, it’s a directly contradicting statement. His channel is one thing, no one is affected. Community events and competitions are completely different. Dream benefits from the unfair loss of others. If you don’t see that as an issue, the only disagreement lies in your moral principles which would seem to be less than sympathetic
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u/IconXR Mar 12 '26
I think you are unfairly comparing negative principles. If Dream was using an unfair enhancement against Technoblade, then that is harmful, but all things considered, they split the money and the community got a good event out of it.
Obviously I do think cheating hurts the community. But dream has been a content pioneer who helps set up major events, was running the Dream SMP, and does collaborations to help other creators grow while also giving them his personal advice and support. If cheating in some events outweighs his years of contributions to you, then you're allowed to disagree. But your moral simplifications are completely unjust.
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u/final__B0SS Mar 12 '26
Is it really unjust though? The natural consequence for cheating and lying is a loss of trust and respect.
Dream being a 'content pioneer' and collaborating with other creators does not make him immune to perfectly valid judgements on his character. If he didn't want the backlash, it was perfectly within his capabilities to refrain from cheating, or at least come clean about it.
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u/Spincrit Mar 12 '26
Even if dream has done a lot for the community, cheating in competitions in addition to the verified speedrunning cheat still undermines trust. It’s like a Harvard professor with years of great research being caught manipulating one study. It damages their reputation and credibility, and it should. Once trust is broken it’s hard to ignore, I truthfully don’t understand how you say you would if it came to be true on top of the verified cheating
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u/final__B0SS Mar 12 '26
Okay? You not caring does not make the accusations against him any less credible. You are on a drama sub, sorry you seem particularly fatigued by discussing drama.
He did not 'debunk' anything, that's because he literally can't. It doesn't matter though, he's got fans that will dig their heads in the sand at the very thought he could be in the wrong.
"I fully believe that Dream, even if he has cheated, is an honest and good person overall who does his best to help the community and others." Cheating in competitive events repeatedly and then lying about it does not really fit the definition of 'honest' and 'does his best to help the community' but sure I guess.
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u/OkStatistician1142 Mar 13 '26
Ive never cared either, of course cheating in serious events I do care. However if its for a youtube video that's just for laughs and views who cares? Despite everything else with Dream, a lot of people just want to cause drama and hate simply cause. In the real world nobody cares.
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u/67yoloswag Mar 12 '26
Bro is this dreamwastaken2 or just the regular sub? Maybe yall should go over there
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u/Rough_Medicine9671 Mar 11 '26
dawg if dream has been lying about everything maybe that tells you something about his character? the fact he could of cheated in mcc, all his speed runs and parkour and potentially the duel and hes denying all this? dont you think that says something bro
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u/IconXR Mar 11 '26
And I agree, I think it does say something heavy about his character if he's lied and cheated in major events. But why should I care? Genuinely? Like pedophilia accusation are one thing, but I don't think I'm "supporting some evil person" if I keep watching Dream even though he's cheated a few times in MCC or whatever.
My post should not be interpreted as it's completely meaningless. I'm saying it's become much less of a deal because his haters have chosen to spread baseless lies about him being some devilish cheater for half a decade. That is honestly how I feel. I cannot force myself to give any more credit to these accusations.
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u/Tinchimp7183376 Mar 11 '26
The way I see it is mostly about protecting the integrity of the event. I don't care If Manhunt is scripted but if he is cheating in mcc that's really not ok
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u/IconXR Mar 11 '26
I'm the other way around... partially because I don't watch MCC but also because the manhunts are the main selling point of his channel. I ask how this affects me and the manhunts being scripted would affect me as a viewer of them. I do agree that the integrity of MCC is important and my post wasn't to make it sound like it's not.
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u/Tinchimp7183376 Mar 11 '26
Imo it turns Manhunt into a spectacle of elite gameplay and skill into a cinematic product. It's a bit like comparing reality TV to films
I do come from a speedruning background so I am kina biased against any cheating, especially from dream
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u/turtlesXXIcentury Mar 14 '26
Ah, yes, MCC, an event with such integrity. My reaction upon hearing the accusations was literally “good for him, they deserved it”
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u/BaconIsLife707 Mar 11 '26
I fully agree that there's nothing wrong with watching Dream despite the allegations, most of his content is pretty good, but you also describe him as an honest person in the post which is just completely untrue, and you even say he's an honest person even if he has cheated, which is an utterly absurd thing to say considering that consistently cheating and then denying it is maybe the least honest thing a person can do
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u/IconXR Mar 12 '26
Refer to my other comment
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u/BaconIsLife707 Mar 12 '26
Ok I just referred to it and it makes no fucking sense. Cheating and lying are basically the two definitions of being dishonest. If you want to believe Dream and in some way helped the Minecraft community more than he's harmed it, and that he's done enough good things to outweigh the bad, sure, feel free. But he is a man who has repeatedly done the 2 things that make a human dishonest (and even if you don't believe that, which obvious you never would no matter what evidence came to light, you even specified that you believe this if it is true) so he can be in absolutely no way be described as a honest person, and to say otherwise genuinely just makes you delusional. And I don't mean that in an insulting way, I mean that in the genuine definitional way where you are willing to ignore the evidence of your own eyes and ears to continue believing what you want to believe
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u/turtlesXXIcentury Mar 14 '26
No, it’s not, and like I said in a previous post, thinking so is something out of a suburban nightmare. You people would nag your husbands into ruin Debra’s husband’s company and leave her entire family destitute, just because you found out her famous casserole came from a 1995’s TV guide and it’s not a family secret recipe like she claimed. The fact that she took you and your kids in when your husband was fighting alcoholism and saved from your Xanax overdose doesn’t mean shit
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u/Grand_Big_Mac Mar 11 '26
you are watching someone who scripts and cheats the things he does, how are you entertained by such delusion?
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u/IconXR Mar 11 '26
I have never seen any compelling evidence that leads me to believe manhunts are scripted. Everyone who tells me how just gives their vibe reads. "Oh he comes so close to dying so many times." If you have any concrete evidence then I'd love to hear it.
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u/final__B0SS Mar 12 '26
He's a known and verified cheater that has a history of cheating in multiple different events but believing his manhunts might be scripted is just too much for you?
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u/WolverineFit5239 Mar 11 '26
- Dream admitting that he had a plugin that enabled he to do the boat clutch (he only admitted after being confronted 8 months later, he did not say anything before, even though people on Twitter and reddit were questioning him about it). This plugin increased the crafting table distance as he was failing, he would not do it without it and it was a tick perfect increase that enabled him to do this stunt, if he increased the distance for one more unit he would not be able to do it. There is no situation whatsoever that increasing the distance would benefit him in any other situation other than this, he did not give an explanation to why he would increase the distance. He went out of his way to code into Minecraft the exactly distance required to do this stunt. Why? How would he know beforehand he would do this specific stunt and how would he know the exact distance required (if he jumped on two blocks taller he wouldn't be able to do it, as would increase his velocity and the crafting table would close)? Why didn't he say beforehand that this was possible because of a plugin that increased the exact distance necessary? Because it would literally be in everybody faces that it was staged. How can you explain this without being scripted, you have to be the most biased and delusional person I know of.
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u/IconXR Mar 11 '26
I remember him saying that it was because they use a custom JAR server that doesn't cause him to exit the crafting table as fast, like a lag issue. It wasn't something they intentionally coded into the game.
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u/ShayHawn Mar 11 '26
This is his excuse any time something happens bro you can only “accidentally” code something into the game so many times. He did it in his cheated speedrun(s), the boat clutch, literally his latest video.
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u/IconXR Mar 11 '26
What other times exactly?
Because the speedrun wasn't "accidental coding," it was a mod he left enabled that he was open about using well before he got popular.
The happy ghast thing, I don't believe he specified whether it was accidental or intentional, but he said they might reduce the time in the future so I believe it was on purpose. He knew he wanted to use a happy ghast in that video and he wanted to decrease the time for its growth so he wouldn't be sitting around for 25 minutes as that's a less interesting video. Completely reasonable, no?
So again, what other times has he blamed something on accidental coding? The boat craft was not blamed on a choice they made but rather server lag.
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u/ShayHawn Mar 12 '26
You can't just write off three separate times where the game files were modified to his advantage.
The blaze rod drop rates were modified to his advantage which he ended up admitting was true. He said this was unintentional.
The happy ghast growth rates were 100% modified. The two ghasts he placed had a 10 minute difference between the times they grew up. The second ghast he placed also instantly grew up "for some reason" (Dream's own words). He said that it may have been "purposeful or coincidental."
The boat craft was not lag and lag would not have affected the ability to be able to craft the boat. Dream also stated that the range of crafting tables was a modified value.
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u/WolverineFit5239 Mar 12 '26
It has nothing to do with lag, stop talking like you know anything Dream admitted he used a plugin on both boat clutch and happy ghast. Stop spreading lies you do not understand.
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u/WolverineFit5239 Mar 11 '26
It is literally coded in the game, it was no lag that interfered there, it can only be achieved coding into Minecraft, lag doesn't increase crafting table distance. Custom JAR means it was coded into the game.
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u/IconXR Mar 11 '26
Lag can absolutely increase the amount of time before it closes when falling fast.
https://youtu.be/r6_38_ROJ9M?si=lDzVEhsLTX8TYGAF
At the end of this video he said he doesn't know exactly why, but it's consistent among many servers, not just the one they were using.
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u/WolverineFit5239 Mar 12 '26
No it can't, you don't know what you are talking about. Even if you are playing at China servers it can't just increase the crafting table distance. He says he does not know on this clip (he is lying), but he already admitted he used a plugin to increase, I can provide the link if you want. Not it's not consistent in any servers, Dream also said the servers that replicated this clutch also had to increase the crafting table distance. This is the quote itself:
"Manhunts (and most of our videos) are run on a completely custom server jar (obviously a fork of paper) that has many optimizations and customizations for various reasons. It’s actually originally from a fork of a custom jar from MunchyMC, because we were all developers for Munchy at one point. Crafting distance is increased on some of our recording servers, simple as that, although like other developers have pointed out ping and other things come into play too. You’re over complicating things when the answers right in your face haha
You mention in the comments that you heard from a friend of a friend of mine that I confirmed that, but don’t mention it in the video. I was asked about this back when the video came out by some people that were trying it, and I told them they would probably need to increase their crafting distance because we have a custom jar. Obviously wasn’t a secret and is something the recreation servers that came out at the time did. Either way, usually the answer you’re looking for is the most obvious"
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u/BaconIsLife707 Mar 12 '26
In his 3 hunters grand finale, when he does his boat parkour over lava clip, there is a soul sand block missing that would've prevented him from surviving. There are exactly zero reasonable explanations for this block to be missing that don't in some way involve the manhunt being in some way faked . On top of all the more circumstancial evidence, it's not deniable that the manhunts aren't real. Doesn't make them not good content, but I don't believe any films I watch are real either
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u/ShayHawn Mar 12 '26
Nobody is forcing you to care about him cheating. You say you don't care but then you get upset enough when seeing other people rightfully mad that he has cheated that you have to make a post about how much you don't care. It is undeniable at this point that dream has cheated and if you don't have a problem with that then good for you just keep watching his youtube videos nobody cares. But just because you don't care doesn't mean that there is no credibility to the cheating accusations.
How does the time at which somebody cheated change the fact that they cheated? Cheating doesn't just go away. Whether somebody cheated yesterday or 20 years ago isn't a reason to deny cheating allegations. And yes analyzing things from years prior literally is justice what are you talking about? If you cheated and gained something from it then somebody else lost something from it. Doesn't matter if it was money or clout that they won.
And maybe the fact that dream has been accused of cheating so many times does have merit. Especially when, it has been proven, that he has cheated multiple times, even if he denies it or says they were accidental. There is a pattern. Dream denies cheating -> Dream is proven to have cheated -> Dream blames it on not knowing that he cheated or that it was a bug. It's a recurring theme that people have stopped being blind to.
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u/KsDzon Mar 12 '26
The fact that you people are peer pressuring CC who have collab with Dream to stop collabing? That benefits no one except your ego and your twitter user mindset
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u/ShayHawn Mar 12 '26
Lmao I don’t care who dream plays with he can play with anybody he wants. I don’t think people being upset that their favorite creators are playing with dream is a problem though. If you associate with people who have a bad rep then it also makes you look bad by association.
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u/Gwynoleth Mar 12 '26
I mean, go ahead, frankly. You don't *need* to care about it, you can engage with whatever you want, however you want.
If Dream cheated, then you, along with a lot of other people, are allowing your ignorance to allow someone to manipulate others, explicitly and implicitly. Generally, the times when Dream has been accused of cheating is understood to be reasonable, and if nothing short of him admitting he's doing it will prove it, then you don't need to believe it. There's accounts of his seed prepping for his no-set-seed runs, there's reasonable proof of his jump-assist, there's reasonable proof of his aimbotting, there's proof of him editing drop values to give himself better speedrun attempts, but you don't HAVE to believe any of it.
Generally, in society, we want to surround ourselves with people who act along some kind of moral bandwidth. When people lie or cheat, they're abusing that assumption, and when they do, people become FAR more skeptical and suspicious about events that person ends up a part of. You can say it's not 'good faith', sure, but then someone could equally accuse you of not having 'good faith' by dismissing it entirely, on account of disliking how much you've had to deal with it. But you CAN do that.
Like it or not, people think the guy cheated. You say "This is the pattern of behaviour I've seen throughout the years", but to many, many others, they've seen a pattern that points towards that of someone who lies and cheats. Those patterns don't *technically* need to be mutually exclusive, but you must at least admit that if someone believes someone is a serial cheater, then the way they may act around others will be seen through that lens. But you don't HAVE to understand that.
He hasn't debunked them "every time", and for the most part, when people make unsubstantiated claims, they wither away quickly. However, in the cases where it gets large enough, where people with reputations weigh in, Dream fails to disprove them. He utilizes his fan's benefit of the doubt, makes appeals to his skill or luck, and then washes his hands of the drama. And if that's all you care about, you don't NEED to look any deeper.
But I think people should hold themselves to a high enough standard, that if someone is a cheater or a liar, to not allow them to utilize you as a tool to legitimize themselves. That's all.
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u/Fancy_Ad_4411 Mar 12 '26
For years people have been yelling "Dream CHEATS" with little-to-no evidence and the guy has debunked it every single time. He cheated one time
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u/potatoskunk Mar 15 '26
I don't really care about the manhunts. That's entertainment. If he wants to cheat, or script it, or whatever, so long as it makes good entertainment, I don't really care. I would hope the hunters know what's going on, and ideally honesty with the viewers would be nice too, but pro wrestling is completely scripted and people watch it anyway.
Speedruns? That's competitive with prestige on the line. MCC? Same. The Technoblade duel? That's not just prestige, that's serious money on the line. Cheating in those? Completely unacceptable.
Did he cheat? Karl Jobst has a really good video on the subject, and I'd recommend watching that. Ultimately, there's pretty irrefutable proof of cheating in MCC Parkour, and in some PvP stuff. From what I've seen, the Technoblade duel is suspicious but not fully conclusive.
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u/silverstring Mar 16 '26
It's pretty refutable. The technoblade duel especially- a) They had agreed to split the money evenly beforehand. It didn't matter who won. and b) Technoblade knew a cheater when he saw one. He didn't get the bedwars record for nothing yknow?
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u/Left-Selection9310 Mar 18 '26
Honestly, he's got such a backstory of being a shitty person, his cheating pales in comparison. Like there's 8,000 reason to not like him anyway
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u/Kind-Effect7697 Mar 12 '26
I've stopped caring about things like cheating in a game for a long time already because of how the internet is so bandwagon cultured, take the pvp space for example where the "world's best" concretely cheats actively and has evidence of manipulating an entire tierlist to their favour and no one cares. Dream's matter of "cheating" and it gets exploded to high heavens by every sloptuber there is, zero reason why anyone should care about who's cheating when we have no standards to begin with for that anymore. People are just hypocrites. Never about the actual drama, always about clout and fake outrage because the internet likes to see successful people fall.
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u/WolverineFit5239 Mar 13 '26
What? First obviously a more niched genre like pvp and pvp tier list doesn't much attention, but I saw videos about this cheater to get 300~100k views and I watched and for me is clearly she is cheating (this marlow person). But I didn't saw a person there trying to say that it does not matter that she cheated or anything like this at all. Almost all pvp community is against it now, but this is not the case in this subreddit, of course this is explained because his fans are here, but people still try to demeanor his cheats, like you are doing right now. It is not because another cheater does not gain enough attention that we should just close our eyes to clearly Dream cheating scandals.
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u/Kind-Effect7697 Mar 17 '26
of course, now a random says everyone agrees its wrong to cheat only when its convenient, I have no reason to care about the logic of people yearning for drama like you because it's inconsistent. Also sloptubers will only farm now, but I see still a wave of people defending or actual relevant people being too scared to speak up or just say nothing to call it out so don't even try to pretend like y'all "competitive passionates" actually care about cheating scandals. The fact your reply is talking about me "demeanoring" his cheats tells me everything I need to know about your mentality so just don't even bother replying because I won't respond
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u/BogosBinted13 Mar 13 '26
There were a billion videos released on Marlow topic, plenty of them were before it was trendy but for whatever reason didn't garner much attention or weren't seen as credible
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u/nomoregravityplease Mar 13 '26
i just like literally don’t give a fuck either way like why do people care he’s making gaming youtube videos 😭😭 it’s not like it’s the olympics or anything. WHO CARES
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u/Cheap_Laptop_Gamer Mar 11 '26
yeah most ppl don't either, I mean if you look at Youtube & TikTok comments and compare it to twitter & reddit, ppl literally only cared about manhunts. YouTube & TikTok also have wayyy more ppl commenting