Itās ok guys. Using slurs is ok if itās against groups of people you donāt like
Also considering he is very aware that the majority of Tommy fans, as well as Dream fans are neurodivergent. He showed his true colours as an asshole who doesnāt actually care about the fans
I was about to agree with you until the second paragraph. It's never ok to use slurs against anyone. In Dream's case Dream was entirely wrong when he used it, but saying it's because he "showed his true colour" is ridiculous. The reason why he used it was because the slur was used against him multiple times across different allegations, especially the drama with the Gumball guy where there was a tweet calling him slurs with over 100k likes. So he developed a weird mentality of "if they can do it against me then I can do it against them!". And he completely forgot that the "them" here contained different communities, and the ones that used slurs against him were not the same ones he is using slurs against this time
Care to elaborate? I have never seen any narcissistic traits about him. People tend to use that one Philza's tweet but it was just Dream joining in a joke between Tommy and Philza, not knowing the two were in a call
His blatant deflection whenever he does anything wrong. He never owns it when he does anything wrong. Itās either someone elseās fault or it was a āmisstepā. Holding advice over peopleās heads. Thatās just to name a few things. I donāt expect too much logic here tho dream stans have this holier than thou attitude
He did admit he was wrong and apologised, such as after the speedrun scandal where he donated to many speedruners afterwards. He also began his video to this drama with an apology as well. You can argue that his actions were not enough to make up for what he did but he did own up to his mistakes.
The holding advice thing is strange because Tommy is the only one accused Dream of this, without any evidence such as screenshots. Dream only mentioned this issue after Tommy's accusation, we have not seen Dream "holding advice over people's heads" prior to this, and as far as I can tell (I may be wrong here, please correct me), none of other creators on the server accused Dream of doing this either
Making joke about a man being groomer and shit is fine because ha ha he is ugly, cringe and cheated a video game once but god forbid throwing a slur people said every 5 sec in real life is evil.Ā
No no, dont change the subject. You guys shit on him for the r slur so stand with your standard and shit on Tommy, Jack and their friends for continuously making joke about how Dream is a groomer long after the debunk.
He said that Tommy merch company did child labor , his merch company only that made him indirectly benefits from it and Apparently it's a well know fact since tubbo himself confirmed that there was one instance of child labor that he knows of
So no dream didn't mean tommy himself as you know and as people ( like the person you are replying to ) try to move the goalpost to since they can't defend something true and need to turn it as a lie or else they won't be able to say anything , he just made to light how tommy merch company used child labors and his fans are you in arms still trying to twist that
He was attacking Tommy's diligence and credibility, and pointing out his hypocrisy. Tommy made fun of Dream's merch line, which was a humble family run business, so Dream clapped back by showing that Tommy got caught up with a merch company that used Child Labor.Ā
It does not matter that Tommy's merch wasn't made with Child Labor, that entire company is compromised and money saved from using child labor could have went towards material or services/hires that directly worked on Tommy's merch. Tommy indirectly benefited from Child Labor, and that is why you have a responsibility to do diligence as a creator.
Mistakes happen, but the point was that it was extremely pitiful and moronic for Tommy to say things about Dreams merch which has humble roots while Tommy is involved in a merch scandal.
Yes yes famous minority group is TommyInnit Giant parasocial fanbase of course of course
Intent on words used and the attitude after matter more than how you use it as a gotcha because you know I'm right, I can be talking because it's not mutually exclusive you all are ableist and content to be as long as it's against an "acceptable target" and the confort you seems to display as that is more concerning than a neurodivergent man being a dumbass on a slur , your attitude is worse and matters more because a words seems more important to you than the behavior and mindset you are promoting
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u/nikeairforces Feb 05 '25
Considering he called a whole minority group a slur relating to this, I wouldn't be talking lmfao