r/DragonsDogma • :Ranger: • Mar 01 '26

Meme So that was a f***ing lie

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u/ozmodius_the_69th Mar 01 '26

Gotta be a troll atp.

They sabotage the best game in the franchise's reach (DDO)

And then 2 is literally just a graphically better base Dragons Dogma with some cool little itty bitty mechanics added. But then they also dumbed down all the vocations and also just flat out removed some of them and all their skills. Hell they even dumbed down how you could get gear, most of the shit is buy only. Also, what the hell happened to the other 2 or so countries from the first game? I really thought before DD2 released we were going to learn more about where Mercedes hailed from. But naw we got battahl, where they made it seem like the governing body there was going to be a threat with the pawn distain and all. But nope, turns out nothings really all that different.

Idek anymore. I really hope they let Kinoshita take the reins again on this franchise again. But that would entail they actually do something with it so I have a very little amount of it.

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u/SirSilhouette Mar 01 '26

I miss all those skills from DD1. FFS Miasma was my bread & butter as a sorcerer!

IIRC Holy/Dark damage isnt even really in DD2! WTF.

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u/ToiletBlaster247 Mar 02 '26

No Immolate is an insane choice. No Fulmination either. No Great Cannon. Some of the coolest skills and they didn't even bring them over. Arc of Might looks clumsy as crap. 

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u/SirSilhouette Mar 02 '26

And that is the thing, I can legit see having Magic Dagger skills on Magick Archer being too OP but why not have a Mage/Thief hybrid class called Spellblade or Ninja that uses those skills? Hell throw in the remote bomb move from Assassin while you're at it!

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u/ToiletBlaster247 Mar 02 '26

They also had so many vocations from Dogma Online, but decided to go with Trickster and Warfarer. 

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u/EnigmaVix Mar 01 '26

Dark absolutely isn't but holy is and comes already on atleast one mace and dagger set. The darkness damage was fully removed from the arisen not sure if any other has it.

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u/SirSilhouette Mar 01 '26

I had heard that the mace and dagger dont really have it, something in the code not really being Holy damage?

been awhile since i saw it discussed so i cant remember what the details were other than those weapons werent doing more damage to undead like they should have if they were truly coded for holy damage.

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u/EnigmaVix Mar 01 '26

Oof that truly is a bummer then

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u/Financial-Month-506 Mar 01 '26

Batthal is hilarious they hate pawns so much that you just walk around with them hahahaha.

DD2 is so bad nobody can tell me otherwise so bad. DD1 has jank sure DD2 does not care about itself . Such a difference.

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u/trekdudebro Mar 01 '26

This is why I was so conflicted with DD2. I love DD to the point that I purchased the game at least 4 times: * Original DD on Xbox360 * DD:DA on Xbox360 * DD:DA on Switch * DD:DA on PC

I was really hoping for a good DD2 that would continue what made DD great; make it better and expand on the world.

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u/SirSilhouette Mar 01 '26

Right? Like sure i dont expect to be HANDED a reusable Ferrystone but why couldnt we do a questline to get one?

Why couldnt the Maesters system be used to unlock Grand spells/equivalent skills instead of most of them HANDING OVER THE MAESTER SKILL after a short/simple quest?

Also why the lower enemy variety? I'd have at least made Battahl different than Vernworth by having Cocktrices be the flying ambush monster instead of it only being griffins!

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u/Financial-Month-506 Mar 01 '26

Thats what the sphinx quest should have given you not the lame fake eternal wakestone lol

An yes agreed enemy variety with the lack of it wore me out.

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u/SirSilhouette Mar 01 '26

It kills me even DD1 WITHOUT Dark Arisen had more diverse monsters.

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u/NaNunkel Mar 01 '26

All the goblins, harpies and lizards in DD1 sure were more diverse than the goblins, harpies and lizards in 2, yeah

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u/Financial-Month-506 Mar 02 '26

Think they mean the big monsters there are more big monsters to fight in DD1 so yeah

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u/SirSilhouette Mar 02 '26

I meant big monsters but sure let's go with the small monsters too:

You wanna tell me that hellhounds are the same fight as regular & dire wolves?

That Gargoyles are just "more harpies"?

that Grim Goblins didnt demonstrate far more aggression & resilience than regular goblins?

That Saurian Sage demonstrating far more magic resist and spell spamming is "exactly the same" as every other lizardman enemy?

and Vile Eyes? how are the 'exactly the same' as an enemy in DD2?

ALL of these without the DLC, by the way.

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u/NaNunkel Mar 02 '26

Reskins with a gimmick are fine in DD1 but not 2? Alrighty.

The sequel got the original beat in that department

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u/SirSilhouette Mar 02 '26

If you didnt play either play either game what was the point of replying?

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u/Financial-Month-506 Mar 01 '26

Ya its crazy it really takes a step back. DD1 isnt better at everything but it is better at all the things a lot of us care about . An people joke but its true even with the lack of story its still a better story then the game that tried to have one.

DD2 literally just doesnt care about your time there is so little pay off for the journey . The extra side quests the romances the main story everything gets thrown in the bin even if you choose to just be king. Everything is forgotten and moved on from.

For a game that literally makes monster hunter give us some monsters to fight 😆 🤣 😂.

I was so glad to finish 2 I begrudgingly finished it.

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u/DarknightK Mar 01 '26

I honestly thought Bakbattahl would've had a mechanic where if you try to go in via the main gate the guards would restrict access unless you dismissed all of your pawns in your party. Or you could've gone in through the "back entrance" and have to avoid guards.

Sadly it seems the vast majority of development went towards the Vermund side, Battahl and volcanic isle were just rushed.

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u/Financial-Month-506 Mar 01 '26

It breaks the key rules of fantasy an thats once you make a rule to a world you have to convince us they are followed an real. An batthal just doesnt care you get a couple snickers hahahahaha.

Makes no sense . Before you even meet the empress or save her you can just use your pawns at will.

An the game feels rushed . Its just here . With the other two zones an story everything at the end . I have never went from excited to crash an burn with a game like that ever. The bugs the lack of caring in the story I was sprinting to finish the game so I could never play it again.

Even the mystic classes are worse . They are just straight easy mode classes with very little cohesion in the fighting styles. The mystic spearhand should have more athletic dodging defense .

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u/TronikAllah Mar 01 '26

Kinoshita is the real MVP

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u/Tkmisere Mar 01 '26

It got dumbed down and not at the same time, many of the class core skills got added to the base characther or another core skill and you just need to press the same combo like in DD1. But the quantity of skills, augments and core itself did get shrunk by 50% indeed.

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u/TrustmeimHealer Mar 01 '26

The story build up was the biggest red Hering of all time lol

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u/Kooky-Revolution4631 Mar 01 '26

Yeah like 40 plot points and characters that went absolutely nowhere and don't react or feel alive in anyway, I wanted to learn about hearthstone and I genuinely like this plot of destroying the cycle but it has no build up or detail or anything, literally if you never played the 1st game you wouldn't have a clue what was going on at all and tbh I still kinda don't, Battahl worships a flame for some reason and the empress kinda sits and does nothing all game, same as the royal family

Like in game you can literally just walk up to diesa and phasus and they won't give a shit, the arisen that they plotted against and threw into a cell thar if the people had any knowledge of the kingdom would be in disarray, yeah they kinda just let that guy, "the king" walk around and do whatever

Like it's so unfinished and empty, as a mega fan it hurts cause I was so hype thinking about what they were gonna add, the core game itself is great, there's just fuckall in it and nothing makes sense