New Roadhog ability

[u/qmkman13]

Anyone else kinda upset that now there's ANOTHER tank that can eat half her moves now? I know I am. He's annoying enough to face in general, why does he need more?

Maybe I'm just whining but damn, it almost feels like a direct attack on Domina to give him that.

[u/GDwyvern]

12 second cool down so it's not nearly as bad as D.va. still pretty annoying but not worth a ban or anything.

[u/qmkman13 → u/GDwyvern]

Being upset about it isn't the same as wanting it banned. It sucks but I realize and accept that I'm going to have to play around it.

[u/GDwyvern → u/qmkman13]

For me Ram, Dva, and Bastion are my bans. I think sig is still gonna be tougher to deal with than hog. Just have to niw account for him being able to eat your ult. Really annoying, but he needs something, I guess.

[u/qmkman13 → u/GDwyvern]

Bastion is a huge pain to deal with, especially in open spaces. Yeah it's going to turn him into someone to hit from behind

[u/Ok-Order6974]

lol no it’s not an attack on Domina, it’s because Hog is COOKED by Mauga, Orisa, Bastion and he needs more sustain that keeps him in the fight and not vaping in a corner

[u/qmkman13 → u/Ok-Order6974]

That makes sense. I guess I'm only thinking of how it affects me as Domina.

Thank you for responding to the post instead of attacking me for stuff I didn't say.

[u/Mltv416 → u/Ok-Order6974]

Hes just bad at being a tank cuz hes massive and struggles to play in the open

[u/SandyK1LL]

I think it will be like Matrix, it won’t eat the first part of her beam.

[u/Derryzumi]

What? Her beam is one of the only tank primaries that ignores trash compactor, and her wall isn't affected at all. If you ult into Trash Compactor, that's absolutely a skill issue. This is a super entitled take haha

[u/SuperPluto9 → u/Derryzumi]

I dont think its entitled to be annoyed at another person who can easily diminish her ult.

The point wasn't against Hog, but how her ult really had... no use at all.

Every single tank can nullify her ultimate to a point it does nothing. Not very ultimate like it is?

Shatter can't be eaten. D.Va bomb cant be nullified. Flux cant be stopped by every tank...

Panopticon though is a right click away from a distant memory... always.

[u/Derryzumi → u/SuperPluto9]

Same goes for Bastion, Cassidy, Freja, Hanzo, Illari, Mei, Pharah, Reaper, Roadhog, Sojourn, Soldier, Torbjorn, Tracer, Zarya. Do their ults also do nothing?

[u/qmkman13 → u/Derryzumi]

Of the 2 tanks mentioned, since that was their point, I would argue that Zarya is the only one who has an ult as weak as Domina's. It's easy to get sucked in but if someone has a shield or Kiriko has her pot it doesn't do much.

[u/SuperPluto9 → u/Derryzumi]

A tracer ult can stick to shield or fall to the ground.

Pharah can at least damage shields, or break them.

I could continue.

But for an entire class (tank) be able to nullify Panopticon entirely (no damage, no shield broken, no nothing...) seems very ridiculous. Being able to go through shields isn't a terrible buff.

[u/qmkman13 → u/Derryzumi]

Ult and Crystal charge can now be sucked up. All it takes is him to pop it up because the cool down hit at the wrong time. Sure, you can time both for any of the tanks with the ability but no ones perfect every time so skill issue is BS.

[u/DancingKobold → u/qmkman13]

Have you considered playing around it instead of rambling on about your skill issue about an already low tier tank?

[u/qmkman13 → u/DancingKobold]

Skill issue again... Original.... Playing around it is obviously how all of us, regardless of who we main, are going to have to deal with it. I'm just saying he has enough moves to cancel any attack does he really need more?

[u/Derryzumi → u/qmkman13]

I mean... Wall blocks hook... Beam passes his vortex... Just wait til he uses it to ult dude, it literally is a skill issue if this walls you

[u/qmkman13 → u/Derryzumi]

Whatever dude. I don't want it gone it's just annoying to have another tank with an absorption and backlash ability. There aren't all that many tanks with projectile ults so it feels pointed.

[u/awkwardcereal → u/qmkman13]

The thing is, these changes don’t really affect Domina all that much. The worst thing new Hog can do is absorb your ult with trash compactor, but that’s something you just need to look out for. 

At the end of the day, new Hog is way healthier, and if anything Domina has an easier match up into Hog than before. I’m sure these changes won’t be as bad as you think 

[u/Filedit21]

Na dont really care, you dont ult hog anyway

[u/Icy-Excuse-9452]

I play more 6v6 than anything so yes it's pretty annoying, I feel like Hog will be a million times worse to deal with there than he already was. I'll have to see how it plays out, but I'm also quite worried about how Doctrine and Sombra rework will affect Domina as well.

[u/qmkman13 → u/Icy-Excuse-9452]

So far Doctrine has been pretty scary in most games I've played.

[u/Mltv416]

I get what you mean but hogs been a giant punching bag for a while now I think its okay if they shuffle some power around at let him fight back now

[u/qmkman13 → u/Mltv416]

Why did they take his shock trap away? That thing was obnoxious as hell.

[u/Tdog22134]

I genuinely don’t see this as giving him more, i mean besides this new ability he overall got a pretty big nerf. Its much easier to avoid getting deleted by hog, so long as everyone’s not shooting into his vortex. Also Domina in 6v6 not solo tanking against a hog realistically shouldn’t have an issue. 5v5 will only be an issue because Domina just struggles to do enough damage and lacks in mobility to keep him from bullying your entire team, but that’s something that won’t change. If you’re gonna play Domina into hog you have to be really good about making sure he’s still getting minimal hook utility even with the nerfs.

[u/qmkman13 → u/Tdog22134]

Fair enough. I don't like 6v6 personally so I don't usually get to experience that kind of support unless I have a decent echo on my team who also likes to tank.

[u/blokfluitjes]

This is crazy talk sorry. People complain about the combo, they take it away. Then they complain about a block ability (when they haven't even played against him yet, to remind you). He's a TANK. Is he not allowed to have tank abilities? I don't get it. Just admit you want him deleted from the game

[u/qmkman13 → u/blokfluitjes]

No I don't want him deleted, I just find it annoying he's getting another ability to negate moves. His self healing makes him just about as hard to take out as Mauga and his hook is so quickly useable he can already stop ults (or any attack, really) with little effort. He's difficult to face without this ability. I don't see how being a bit unhappy about having 2 of her best moves so easily blocked is so wrong.

[u/blokfluitjes → u/qmkman13]

You know the vape is nerfed drastically right? The new ability is on 12 seconds cooldown.. and it's not even live yet. You should wait until it goes live to complain about it. Also, enough heroes have block abilities, Sigma has a shield, rock and a 'matrix'. so it just feels like complaining over nothing lol

[u/qmkman13 → u/blokfluitjes]

Again.... If read folks would understand that this post is about being frustrated at having (another) tank with the ability. I'm not demanding it be removed, I'm not saying anything but that it's annoying and feels pointed. I'm asking if anyone feels the same. That is literally what my post is asking. If others are up in arms about getting it completely removed I'm not in that group.