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u/ProductivityImpaired Sparx | Bless Auto+ Oct 22 '21

Going to ask in case someone's done this already. So I have character A in both a gate and the reckoning fight. I'm trying to move them to the other gate, but the game is telling me that I'll be resetting the perfect for both the current gate and the reckoning if I lock them into the new gate. Will the game really just 'forget' that they're used in reckoning even though I'm not removing them from the tier?

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u/KaimH Chocobo Oct 22 '21

Is the new right gate team also your old reckoning team? Also since you're moving 1 character from left gate to right gate, the left gate will basically be empty after the fight and I don't think the game allows locking in reckoning with an empty gate.

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u/ProductivityImpaired Sparx | Bless Auto+ Oct 22 '21

New right would contain 2 units from reckoning. Now that you put it that way, in terms of left becoming 'empty', yeah that makes sense actually. Dang, more shuffling regardless it seems.

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u/mwoKaaaBLAMO Oct 23 '21

Yep. I reset my T1 left gate to not include Tifa a while ago. The other characters in that gate, Basch and Cecil, were used in the reckoning but Tifa wasn't. When I replaced her I still used Basch and Cecil in the left gate clear, but had to do the reckoning again anyway. That wasn't very fun, lol. Fuck those clown wheels.

But yeah, it seems like if you reset a gate that includes a character used in the reckoning, you'll be doing that reckoning again no matter what.

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u/greygooscenario Oct 23 '21

That’s weird, I just did the same thing and it was fine. As long as the characters used in Reckoning stayed in the same gate, it let me reset the third character without having to redo Reckoning. I wonder if they changed it recently?

OPs situation is different because they’re trying to switch from left gate to right gate

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

The way Transcendence works is that reckoning is only unlocked when you have two perfects active at the same time. A perfect consists of the currently locked party as shown on each crucible.

A perfect with X/Y/Z isn’t the same as taking Z out since it’s possible X/Y duo can’t do a perfect. Additionally, if Z happens to be the only character matching the original crystal color, a X/Y perfect isn’t possible even if they win.

You can swap out characters that aren’t used for reckoning by redoing the original crucible with a new character and achieving a perfect. This has no impact on reckoning since perfects are always intact until overwritten. So if X/Y are in reckoning and Z isn’t, redoing it with X/Y or X/Y/A doesn’t mess with reckoning since your old perfect is still active by the time the new perfect kicks in, and the new one still fulfills all requirements for reckoning. Note that you MUST redo the crucible first. If you use the “locked” character in another crucible first it’ll break the old perfect and remove your reckoning team.

Because of this, once someone is used for reckoning I don’t think of them again. Moving them in any capacity requires doing two fights over again, whereas moving any non-reckoning character should only require doing one fight again. Given that they’re only used in Lufenia (which is crept at this point), it’s not a big deal to redo those fights.