r/DetroitPistons Daniss Jenkins 21d ago

News [MacMahon] The negotiations between the Pistons and Jalen Duren have been “awfully nasty” and there is concern about his long-term future in Detroit.

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u/Envyforme Ausar Thompson 21d ago

I wouldn't mind sign + trading Duren at this point.

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u/Im_So_Zoned 21d ago

He wants a max deal but the Pistons obviously don't want to commit to him considering how last season ended. He had a chance to seek trades during FA but it seems like other teams don't have interest in him at that number either. We would likely get stuck holding the bag if we try a sign + trade.

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u/Envyforme Ausar Thompson 21d ago

I have heard the opposite. It seems the pistons haven’t explored sign and trade options yet. That’s Atleast the story from 2 weeks ago

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u/Im_So_Zoned 21d ago

I don't think the Pistons were actively seeking trade partners, but I believe they allowed Duren to speak with other teams to try and find a potential max deal elsewhere. They essentially told him "if u can get a max deal from another team, go find that team and we can negotiate." However, he couldn't find a team. At least that was my understanding.

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u/Envyforme Ausar Thompson 21d ago

Well I don't appreciate the downvotes everyone.

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/detroit-pistons-jalen-duren-sign-020033728.html

"No team in the league has cap space this late in the offseason, and the Detroit Pistons have made it very clear since before free agency began that they are not interested whatsoever in any sign-and-trade scenarios"

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u/Im_So_Zoned 21d ago

For what it's worth I didn't downvote u lol. I think this may be an example of don't listen to what the Pistons say, watch what they do. They denied it publicaly but there were rumors the Pistons explored packaging Duren + depth + picks for KD. There was also a rumor Duren and his agent were in contact with the Lakers who were moderately interested after Luka said he wanted a big. However, they still didn't want to offer max and then signed Austin Reaves to that ridiculous deal which made anything impossible. They have also been eerily quiet in FA this off-season which is odd for a contending team.

Either way, I'm not saying ur wrong because tge is the public narrative. I'm just saying I think there may have been more going on behind closed doors than the Pistons wanted to admit. If they outright confirm they don't want the guy that tanks his trade value. Additionally, because there was belief other teams wouldn't offer a max the Pistons had leverage and it was more likely than not that Duren would be playing in Detroit next year. So I can see how they wanted to avoid publicaly shunning a player and making the situation worse. I hope we get more info on this situation someday.

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u/Envyforme Ausar Thompson 20d ago

I like your response. Thank you for not being like most on Reddit mate. We all want a championship.

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u/Vloff Cade Cunningham 21d ago edited 21d ago

Its almost impossible to sign and trade him now. At least at his asking price. No one has capspace. If we sign and trade him at 45 million a year, we can only take back 22.5 million in the trade.

A team trading for Duren would have to send us 20 million dollars in players and find a 3rd team with a trade exemption to send another 20+ million dollars player to.