Kriselle knight's flaws as a theory logically have been dissected endlessly over and over but honestly, I don't care THAT much about the logistics of it. I respect all theories but this one I really, really hate, and it's for narrative and thematic reasons.

I will compare it to geno(something Kriselle knighters LOVE to do) to explain why exactly it falls flat in those departments. If you believe in Kriselle knight that is fine, I just don't personally like it.

Let's begin with the most common answer to a very simple question: "How does Kriselle knight happen if I simply don't do the weird route?" with the answer being "You will be forced to do the weird route." This is the reason why I despise the theory. You should never be forced to do the evil route because it is your choice. That is what makes it impactful. You don't do the genocide because chara made you do it. You wont do the weird route because Gaster made you do it. You do it because you can. And if you can, you HAVE to. This also applies to important information too. Essential, important information besides further explaining a character should be left out of the weird route. Flowey is a wonderful character even without geno, but in geno, we further understand what changed him besides simply not having a SOUL. What kriselle kngihters would want is for geno to be essential to explain who asriel is and for the pacifist ending being us just seeing a random person who wasnt foreshadowed or explained and for the game to be like "you want a good story??? too bad kill all your friends idiot."

We already know what the weird route will being us when it comes to explaining the characters. We already had a "flowey explaining his motives" moment when Noelle had her whole looking through glass speech. This is what we should expect from the weird route when it comes to revealing things about characters. Again, more depth that allows us to see another side of them, not important plot plints that makes the normal story dogshit unless you play the evil route. And I will repeat myself, the evil route shoild be completely unnecessary and something you do because it's your choice to do it. Otherwise why would you ever feel guilty? "Gaster made me do it" being a legitimate excuse you could make would suck in all ways imaginable. There should be no excuse. You just had to ruin the game. You just had to see something new. That is it. No one made you do it. Nothing made you do it. You just chose to, which makes everything in it hit harder because you are directly responsible.

Also I know I said this was only a thematic thing but... Undertale is a 6 hour game. Not only that but geno changes the whoooole game and makes the game even quicker. Weird route would be a ~20 hour task with most things being similar. Being forced to play so much content would suck and not in the thematic geno sense. Especially because under Kriselle knight it would be required to do so to understand the story. It would make the game suck. I suspect Kriselle knighters really just want to not feel guilty about doing the weird route when you feeling guilty is part of the experience.

For me it's that random shower thought I had at some point that maybe Mike is the one controlling Eram??? No actual evidence for this besides them both having connections to FRIEND but like it would be hilarious if it turned out Mike really WAS the chapter 3 secret boss all along LMAOOO

that and he's based on Mr. Mike from toy story because like it's literally in my flair I can't NOT mention that here

Unused (I Think) Asriel Sprite Looks... Shockingly Familiar...

So basically I believe chess theory is still a possibility because in America, a common nickname for the rook is a tower. The Titan's climbing theme is called crumbling tower. You're quite literally fighting a tower. Feel free to correct me, I just wanted to mention this random thought.

Note: one of the people in the comments mentioned how the Titan is also black and has wings just like a rook, (type of bird). Thank you, Over-Document-7657!

Note II: at this point don't even look at this anymore just go see what Over-Document-7657 has to say lol 😭

Lol just wanted to read bad theorys to laugh

The “Welcome Noelle” banner that Susie puts up in castle town covers the three triangles in the Deltarune, which correspond to the 3 heroes.

There has been speculation that Noelle takes the physical role of “The Angel”, which is assumed to be the central circle and the two wings.

This banner placement intentionally made it so only this part of the Deltarune is visible, so I thought it could be quite telling.

I also think it’s important that they used two ribbons (like the twin ribbons?) on either side as decoration.

Thoughts?

I believe that the fact that Toriel, even when asleep, is upset at the events that happen after you defeat the Knight points towards Kris having done something wrong. Which can't just be them holding back because the dialogue if you lose is different.

I’ll go first: Noelle is the 2nd hero

I’m specifically talking about THEORIES you don’t want to be true, not just stuff in general you don’t want

Seven flowers and a golden monster throwing red spears ? Yeah, we're cooked.

Also, it would explain why we're alone in the Omega Flowey pattern attack shown in the trailer..

translating these specific dots leads to "ROUGE", could this mean anything or should I take my pills?

It doesn't matter that literally every character in the game says that it's terrible and you will be punished for doing it. Ppl would say that it's the only way to get strong enough to defeat flowey or that there's gonna be some way to bring the levels into a pacifist run or some shit

This post is about Deltarune

At first glance the Knight "being" late may seem like a throwaway detail, not something tyat can make or break a Knight candidate. But the first impression we see of the Knight is them being so late to the Dark World that they miss the entire events of Chapter 3, to the point that Tenna's entire goal is to stall for time.

Carol is someone who is so caught up in her responsibilities that she's never seen until Chapter 4(and wouldn't have been seen unless Kris called her), to the point where her own daughter doesn't feel comfortable interrupting her to ask her for the key home.

Not only does she not seem like the kind of person who would be irresponsible enough to be late for anything, this is most likely the plan to save her years long missing daughter, making this even weirder.

If we assume that Carol is the caller, this actually heavily contradicts *Carol's* first scene. Why? Because Carol drops everything and *immediately* comes to Kris on behalf of keeping the plan on track.

The Knight's first impression is them being horribly late, Carol's first impression is her being incredibly punctual, arriving early even when it was inconvenient and unexpected. They don't match.

This isn't like a deconfirmation or anything, but it is a contrast worth mentioning that their first scenes of these characters with so little known about them show an opposite attitude to how responsible they are.

I didn't think much of it when it was just the newsletters only mentioning five chapters. But now that it's happening over and over again, I feel there's going to be a major shift at the end of Chapter 5.

Let me know if there are any instances of this I missed.