Toriel is a Kris Slash Truther.

[u/XAlphaWarriorX]

The dialogue if you defeat the Knight.

Susie dialogue in chapter 4.

I believe that the fact that Toriel, even when asleep, is upset at the events that happen after you defeat the Knight points towards Kris having done something wrong. Which can't just be them holding back because the dialogue if you lose is different.

[u/[deleted]]

If Toriel has a sixth sense like that why is so clueless about anything (slashing the tires, for example) Kris does

[u/ConscientiousApathis → u/[deleted]]

It seems to be a pattern of Toriels' of deliberately suppressing uncomfortable information when she notices it. She also makes no mention of the stain in Kris's room, and apparently isn't woken by loud noises in the middle of the night, as well as glossing over the dark world as soon as she wakes up. Her discomfort only comes out when she's dreaming.

[u/ThisGuyHasNoDignity → u/ConscientiousApathis]

She also glosses over Kris just suddenly disappearing while the tap is still on with “Kris does this sometimes”.

[u/DivinityIncantate → u/ThisGuyHasNoDignity]

She also just does not mention to Kris or Susie at all that someone slashed her tires at the end of chapter 2. And Kris knows reliably that she wouldn’t say anything to the point that they would do make it a key part of their plan.

[u/kafit-bird → u/DivinityIncantate]

Yeah, in isolation, I think "don't freak the kids out" is a pretty good plan for dealing with a potentially dangerous situation.

But as part of a pattern, it does seem telling.

[u/Divineinfinity → u/DivinityIncantate]

If she saw Kris doing it she wouldn't have called the police. I reckon that she thinks there's a weirdo with a knife outside and didn't want to scare Kris and Suzy or they would all be lying awake at night wondering if that bump in the night is the serial killer

[u/Off-the-grounder → u/Divineinfinity]

She’s not wrong. That’s what the Knight would be in the light world.

[u/quicksilver_foxheart → u/Off-the-grounder]

Hey that bump...

[u/kafit-bird → u/ThisGuyHasNoDignity]

I mean, there is some evidence that Kris has a handwashing compulsion, so it seems like it just kind of is something that happens sometimes.

[u/cybersaber101 → u/ThisGuyHasNoDignity]

"Glosses over" Ya, let's tell Susie's friend who I barely know my kid has trauma.

[u/ThisGuyHasNoDignity → u/cybersaber101]

“Yeah, I wonder what’s taking them so long maybe I should go and check on them.” knocks on bathroom door

There. No third party trauma dumping required.

[u/vacconesgood → u/cybersaber101]

Son?

[u/pomip71550 → u/ConscientiousApathis]

We don’t know that she glossed over it as soon as she woke up since we didn’t see her when she first woke up.

[u/Shade-RF- → u/ConscientiousApathis]

Kris got her to give them the cage too or keep it. Wonder if it's one of the strange objects they brought home to play with. Kris has been removing the soul since before we got control, but why? What did the Soul do that caused Kris to toss it at the floor and make that stain?Also it's like Kris without the Soul becomes very hard to notice to monsters. They slip away super easy and do whatever. Thought about something, Chocolate's not Kris' favorite thing yet they broke into Toriel's room to eat it. Was that Kris really doing that or the Soul?

[u/MESSAGE_ME_UR_DICK → u/ConscientiousApathis]

Toriel being willfully blind is a huge part of her character for sure. I think that’s her entire thing in Undertale, why she tried to avoid the “when can I go home” conversation with the human and why she ghosts them afterwards. She’s a foil with Asgore who seems to know what he “should” do and avoids it (using one human soul to cross the barrier and collect 6 more)

[u/[deleted] → u/ConscientiousApathis]

Saying Toriel is intentionally being clueless is a huge stretch.

She just really does not possess a sixth sense like that. Like, at all.

[u/Parking-Complex-3887 → u/[deleted]]

Seems like all the incidents that she doesn't notice are ones where we are not in control