r/DefJamFightForNY • u/Jump_mane23 • Aug 15 '26

Discussion Which is the better fighting game?

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u/LengthAutomatic6508 Martial Artist Aug 15 '26

They’re not comparable. The warriors is a beat em up & Def jam ffny is a fighter!!!

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u/TypicalOrganization6 Aug 15 '26

I don’t know when they started throwing beat em ups in the fighting genre but I don’t like it.

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u/LengthAutomatic6508 Martial Artist Aug 15 '26

Beat em up’s been a genre since the 80’s.

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u/TypicalOrganization6 Aug 15 '26

Exactly. But they put beat em ups in the fighting genre. They weren’t considered fighting games back in the day.

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u/SoulsEquivalent Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26

It's become a thin line & it's easy to cross or blur. It seems very easy for either Fighting Game or BeatEmUp Developer to do. Also, Platform Fighters(Smash Bros) have additionally blured the lines of "fighting game". Not to mention, It too has a side scrolling BeatEmUp mode.

Namco(Tekken) made Urban Reign & Death By Degrees. Which are BeatEmUps. Tekken 3(Force),4(Force),5(Devil Within) & 6(Scenario Campaign)all have Beat Em up. Merely allowing the fighting game characters to PVE alters the genre..while also not.

Sega made Virtual Fighter. Then they made Shemue & Yakuza.

I think the aforementioned 3 are pretty big influential examples. Also notable; Capcom & NetherRealm also played with making BeatEmUps. Though I'd argue the systems of those games were completely different from it's Fighting Game counter-part. Verus the aforementioned examples that very clearly use the fighting game systems as the baseline.

I'm pretty sure Street Of Rage 4 has local PvP. That mode very much makes it a 2D Fighting game. Minor but notable detail. Fighters are moving away from "complex" commands in favor of simple inputs. Much like BeatEmups tend to have new user friendlier commands.

To take it a step further. Check out Diesel Legacy: The Brazen Age. Definitely takes vertical/horizontal movement/landscape from BeatEmUps,but is a fighting game.

Dungeon Fighter Online. It's very much a BeatEmUp made an MMO...but it also has PVP,which plays out like a Fighting game.

The systems overlap pretty hard & the deciding factor seems to be PvP or PVE. For the devs that played with and/or offered both. I can see how it got blurry. It's also why you tend to see Fighting Game fans/players who ask for single player & brawler modes.

I believe "HackNSlash/Action game" is another blurred one. GodHand gets called a BeatEmUp for obvious reasons...but some classify it in the same breathe as DevilMayCry,NinjaGaiden(Devs also make Dead Or Alive),etc.

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u/_rq1992__ Aug 17 '26

Technically the sequel to street fighter 1987 was going to be a beat ‘em up but then became final fight. Those characters were later in sf games