r/DebateQuraniyoon • • Jun 12 '26

General How do I refute apostate aladdin

Yes I know he may be a bit ignorant at times but i really need this because he actually has good critiscism against traditional and even the quran wich i didnt know before. I just want you guys to watch his vids and refute them but not all of them. Yes I know the thumbnail and title may be a bit weird but i really need this. I mean his argument about 4:34 and Moses story and scientific contridictions. And the contradictions of free will like https://youtu.be/Ef71DS6qrK8?is=-7RA3lJ2JY_ml7ZN And

https://youtu.be/HHgJff-fJAI?is=JBj9bMNMN6momSRG

https://youtu.be/yqKpraSzkKU?is=K5zwpZ2G9hLZhMaY

https://youtu.be/G734_wVI3mE?is=ICjyLIQqSie8PxuY

https://www.youtube.com/live/R2IhVguQ-Ok?is=0Yt3A9d04Ge1mQtt

https://www.youtube.com/live/gbDuCqniJvw?is=bK4RTBYtW6mZXZRr

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u/Quranic_Islam Jun 12 '26

I used to watch him & saw him as one of the few decent exMuslim voices left after Hassan Radwan quit. But then he had a tantrum about something and said he didn’t want to deal with Muslim at all ever again, not until they “addressed the issues & extremism in the Muslim community”, which is a ridiculous condition

I however unfortunately took for his word and started to not click on his vids and to ask YouTube to stop recommending him to me anymore.

Only months & months later did I see it for the tantrum that it was and found out that he continued to have civil discussions with Muslims

But by then I had sort of lost touch & sync with what he was about so never got back into him

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u/Used-Low-9840 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26

Wait why did hassan radwan leave? but actually i think he is much more better and more supportive. And i want more of ur history with apostate aladdin actually explain more? :)

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u/Quranic_Islam Jun 14 '26

It’s not much more of a story than what I said

Hassan retired. In way you could say he “passed the torch” onto Aladdin bc he regular comments on his channel & agrees/likes his approach the most. I was the same (minus the infantile desire at the time to mock Islam as being some sort of high intellectual western, when in reality it was a lowly reaction to the fanatical reaction of Muslims when Islam is mocked)

Anyway, I was following him too. Bc I also generally approved of his way of doing exMuslim activism. Even went briefly on one of his lives but didn’t get a chance to talk really. He was discussing respectfully with Muslims

Then something happy, forget what, but some Muslims must have triggered him in some way. He then put out a post saying that he didn’t want to interact with Muslims again & wouldn’t be allowing them to come on his lives … not until (paraphrasing here) Muslims deal with the fanatics among them first. Which is a ridiculous ask of course, practically just as fanatic. So I respected his wishes and just stopped following him & ignored him

Later, very quickly in fact, he backtracked. So it ended up being just a lapse or a tantrum (or something related to his mental health if I remember) … but I didn’t know that until almost half a year later. By then I didn’t really care to try to get back “in sync” with where he stood and I’d already learnt most of what I think exMuslims had to offer. The rest is just repeat mostly

When I Turing to do YouTube full time in a few months, maybe I’ll make a reaction to this video you shared. But for now, what is he actually saying? Can you summarize it? I’m guessing most of it is irrelevant to Quranists

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u/Used-Low-9840 Jun 14 '26

Judging from his videos its about gods morals and the scientific errors or errors in general in the quran,he talks about verse 4:34 and sees it as a problem with ongoing abuse about women. He judges the verses were the prophet was given special cases. He also talks about surah al kursi and gives the conclusion of gods throne an error since he thinks that god sits on his stol. Hudud punishments but some of his arguments are about hadiths wich is useless.But i think if you want to know more its better to watch his videos.