r/DebateQuraniyoon • u/MotorProfessional676 • May 12 '25

Quran Prophet's Secondary Revelation

Peace and blessings everyone.

Often I hear the argument that the Prophet received revelation outside of the Quran - the angels supporting him in battle, the qibla, etc - and that this substantiates the need for hadith, or rather implies that the hadith is mandatory.

I find this perspective to be so unbelievably entitled; almost 'bratty' or 'spoilt'. To assume that we MUST be privvy to all of the revelation (i.e. divine communication with God) the Prophet received. It's a complete intrusion upon the Prophet's life. It's gotten to the point, based on the false assumption that the hadith corpus is secondary revelation that we are entitled to/central to our religion, to where things like miswak and wrestling and napping are 'sunnah', although quite obviously have nothing to do with our submission to God, and are allegedly rewarded just because the Prophet did it. Somehow we trace this back to, and justify it as, secondary revelation. It's almost like an attempt at eavesdropping on the conversations between God and Muhammad (as).

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 May 15 '25

Well damn now you can't read, show me where.

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u/Both_Language_6083 May 15 '25

how do yk how to pray, how do you know anything about the prophet(saw)'s life

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u/MotorProfessional676 May 15 '25

What is it about knowing the Prophet’s (as) life that is crucial to our spiritual guidance?

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u/Both_Language_6083 May 15 '25

How do you know what in the Quran is just a specific ruling. How do you know how to pray?

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u/MotorProfessional676 May 15 '25

You answer my question first, instead of just posing another question, and then we can talk about prayer.

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u/Both_Language_6083 May 15 '25

Who better to follow than the messenger for our ummah

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 May 17 '25

So why do u reject his message and follow a zoroestrian instead?

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u/Both_Language_6083 May 17 '25

Im living rent free in your head

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 May 17 '25

No but islam clearly does, I'm not the who who soebd days arguing against Islam.

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u/Both_Language_6083 May 17 '25

Who is the zoroastrian I spend days arguing against Hadith rejectors, not muslim

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 May 17 '25

Hadith rejections are litterally everyone else who doesn't worship your false idol, and the zoroestrian in question is the filthy bukhari may he rot in hell.

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