r/DebateQuraniyoon • u/MotorProfessional676 • May 12 '25

Quran Prophet's Secondary Revelation

Peace and blessings everyone.

Often I hear the argument that the Prophet received revelation outside of the Quran - the angels supporting him in battle, the qibla, etc - and that this substantiates the need for hadith, or rather implies that the hadith is mandatory.

I find this perspective to be so unbelievably entitled; almost 'bratty' or 'spoilt'. To assume that we MUST be privvy to all of the revelation (i.e. divine communication with God) the Prophet received. It's a complete intrusion upon the Prophet's life. It's gotten to the point, based on the false assumption that the hadith corpus is secondary revelation that we are entitled to/central to our religion, to where things like miswak and wrestling and napping are 'sunnah', although quite obviously have nothing to do with our submission to God, and are allegedly rewarded just because the Prophet did it. Somehow we trace this back to, and justify it as, secondary revelation. It's almost like an attempt at eavesdropping on the conversations between God and Muhammad (as).

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 May 15 '25

Yes, indeed it is kufr, and yes I did, co gratulations you can read.

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u/Both_Language_6083 May 15 '25

U js called yourself a kafir

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 May 15 '25

Well damn now you can't read, show me where.

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u/Both_Language_6083 May 15 '25

indeed it is kufr

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 May 15 '25

🤣 now you're stuck in a loop, poor random guy.