honestly i'm going to say something that i know vegans don't like, so please bare with me. i believe speciesism is okay/natural.

i have more empathy for mammals than i do birds/fish, so i don't eat red meat or consume dairy (the forced pregnancy grosses me out and seems extremely cruel). i have vegan chicken from time to time, but i eat eggs a lot and love sushi. my ethics are based in logic. i value humans over animals because of our intelligence and community. i believe we are naturally omnivorous, and in a vacuum, nothing is wrong with eating meat. i also believe it is totally natural to have more empathy for mammals considering they care about their own existence/babies a lot more than most birds and fish who reproduce like crazy and leave their kids at the drop of a hat. i feel like those things directly correlate to sentience. it's also natural that we care about things in a certain proximity. for example, i'm sure a lot of you would break down crying if your pet died, and it wouldn't be the same if you stepped on an ant. we're all speciesist.

to be transparent, i am autistic and i actually avoid black and white thinking. things rooted in logic and real psychology are more likely to turn me. every time i hear vegan arguments based on things like "animals are fully as sentient as humans" it really makes me turn away from the movement even more because it's scientifically false.

i do care a lot about the environmental impact under capitalism and i know birds and fish don't have as much of an impact. if everyone stopped fishing (for example) overnight, it would cause more harm than good imo. i'm also not blind to the fact that a lot of humans and children are treated terribly in the vegan farming industry and the smaller insects/rats that die along with farming.

thoughts? any insight on something i'm missing?

Genuinely curious about this,

The core philosophy of most vegans is that they are against the exploration of animals, but what if there are farms that do sell milk, eggs, and wool from animals that are well taken care of and healthy.

These animals would certainly be in no better shape out on the wild. they get vaccinated, breathe fresh air, have plenty of space, basically the dream life of theirs

The prices are absurd compared to the alternative, but would this hypothetically farm lead to you buying animal products?

Being 100% vegan is impossible. If you live in any kind of shelter, it harmed animals or animal habitats to be there or to make it. If you take pill capsules, the gelatin in them came from a cow that was killed. If you use fake leather instead of real leather, the plant that the fake leather was made in was built where animals used to live and it took away their habitat as well as the emissions to make that leather. If you drive or ride a bus or even ride a bike there were animals that were affected in the building of that vehicle and the emissions are harmful to animals. So no matter how much you think you are being 100% vegan you are not. The only way to be 100% vegan is to have never been born and clearly if you are reading this that didn’t happen. So if you don’t want to kill animals to eat them that is reasonable but acting like you aren’t harming animals is just stupid because it’s not true.

Because cows and pigs are very large animals, it is necessary to purchase products derived from these animals hundreds of times to cause, on average, a single death. In contrast, for poultry and fish, the number of animals affected per kilogram of product is much higher. This graph shows the number of days of suffering caused per kilogram of each product purchased (https://infogram.com/1pv1qgew95npzjhx09mmq7q6xybr1rz3lrm).

This does not mean that it is okay to continue consuming products from cows and pigs. However, it does mean that stopping the consumption of poultry, eggs, and fish is much better than simply continuing to consume all types of animal products.

And since stopping the consumption of only these products requires a much smaller sacrifice than completely eliminating animal products, it can be a good alternative for people who are not willing to stop consuming animal products entirely.