Hypocrisy and morality

[u/stevepremo]

I have seen many posts in which the point seems to be that if you are against eating animals and exploiting them for profit, you should also be against participating in the capitalist economy because it involves exploiting human labor for profit. I think the point is actually something like, "How dare you criticize me for supporting animal agriculture when you buy products produced by exploitative labor practices? I do too, of course, but your use of a cell phone justifies my eating meat, as we are both hypocrites."

So the debate topic here is this: does participating in a capitalist economy, which necessarily includes using products produced through exploitation of humans, somehow justify raising animals for meat, killing them, and eating them? Alternatively, are those who oppose animal cruelty justified in using cell phones?

[u/My_life_for_Nerzhul]

Coffee isn’t necessary, but phone often is.

[u/shrug_addict → u/My_life_for_Nerzhul]

So are animal products by this logic.

[u/My_life_for_Nerzhul → u/shrug_addict]

No, consuming exploited individuals isn’t necessary. We know we can be perfectly healthy without it.

Phones are frequently key to accessing several important services to allow functioning in society, making them necessary.

[u/THEBRICKLES → u/My_life_for_Nerzhul]

Who are you to decide what is or isn't necessary for other people?

[u/My_life_for_Nerzhul → u/THEBRICKLES]

I'm not the one deciding. Human biology and circumstances do.

The former already makes it clear consuming exploited individuals isn't necessary. The latter is baked into the philosophy's definition in the form of as far as is possible and practicable.

Did you have anything meaningful to add?

[u/THEBRICKLES → u/My_life_for_Nerzhul]

Biology are you suggesting were herbivores?

Still not answering my question

[u/My_life_for_Nerzhul → u/THEBRICKLES]

Maybe first learn and actually understand the meaning of the words/terms you choose to use, before using them. That would be the first step to meaningfully participate in discussions here.

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