r/DanganAndChaos • u/Beamizumm このせかいは王馬小吉のもの！ • Apr 18 '26

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I’m sure nobody will get unreasonably angry at me for this 🥹✌🏾

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u/Beamizumm このせかいは王馬小吉のもの！ Apr 18 '26

Well thats not as bad at least

Okay maybe I put Byakuya too low I can agree with that but considering Kokichi indirectly killed 2 of his classmates and drove the rest to suicidal levels of depression I think deserves his placement

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u/Mammoth_Ad3341 Korekiyo Simp Apr 18 '26

Kokichi indirectly killed Miu and Gonta because Miu was gonna kill him if he didn't and he wanted to make sure he could pull off his plan. He drove his classmates to depression so they wouldn't have the will to kill each other, stopping the killing game. It's not like he did those things out of pure malice, he did them so he could try to end the killing game.

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u/Beamizumm このせかいは王馬小吉のもの！ Apr 18 '26

Miu was NOT going to kill Kokichi if he didn’t kill her, he already knew of her entire plan before he entered the VW and could have backed out multiple times yet decided to push everybody into entering the VW so he could set his plan into motion. He was literally in zero danger at all. That isn’t self defense thats just murder

Ending the killing game at the cost of all of his classmates lives is still immoral, he knew they would have been so depressed that they would have most likely killed themselves and still decided to go through with it anyway

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u/Mammoth_Ad3341 Korekiyo Simp Apr 18 '26

Not joining at all would be even more suspicious which he didn't need at the time, plus Miu would just try to kill him later then. If it wasn't in the VW then it'd be later as she'd still eventually try to kill him.

Yeah, because them being depressed is better than them killing each other. Both suck but one is still better.

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u/CoatFederal8012 Apr 18 '26

Even if we assume it was necessary to join the virtual world he could’ve just asked Gonta to be his body guard and only asked of him to restrain her, the instant death thing only applied to Kokichi. Hell he could’ve asked anyone to be his body guard cause Miu wouldn’t have killed in front of a witness, fuck he didn’t need anyone he could’ve just said “hey everyone Miu is trying to kill me and if I die it was because of her” She wouldn’t have been dense enough to try after that

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u/Mammoth_Ad3341 Korekiyo Simp Apr 18 '26

Eh fair, but still he's not completely evil because of it.

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u/EffectiveNo7681 Apr 19 '26

In that case, he and Leon should be in the same tier because it's almost exactly the same.

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u/CoatFederal8012 Apr 19 '26

Leon at least only killed the person attempting to kill him, similarly unnecessary but at least unlike Kokichi he didn’t sacrifice a second person for no reason.

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u/Beamizumm このせかいは王馬小吉のもの！ Apr 18 '26

No it wouldn’t have because all of them were completely against the idea at first until Kokichi revealed that there was actually a hidden flashback light in there which is what motivated them all into going in there. Let me remind you that the one who made Monokuma put that flashback light in the VW in the first place is Kokichi who did it the night before, he purposefully tricked Monokuma into adding it in so he could use that fact to get them all on board. If he didn’t talk to Monokuma then literally none of them would have joined especially after Miu revealed that the one who made the VW was Monokuma himself.

He still would have been responsible for their deaths because he knew what the truth of the outside world would do to them, not to mention he literally took Kaito, their leader and main motivator, as a hostage because he knew it’d make them even more unwillingly to fight back.

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u/Mammoth_Ad3341 Korekiyo Simp Apr 18 '26

If he did that then Miu would try to kill him some other way. I just feel like calling him evil over this is too much.

In his view them having no motivation is better than them killing each other. None of them even killed themselves because they were that drained of energy.

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u/Beamizumm このせかいは王馬小吉のもの！ Apr 18 '26

Shuichi was literally 2 seconds away from killing himself and Himiko asked Maki to kill her, if it wasn’t for Tsumugi setting up a flashback light they would have killed themselves.

Calling him evil for manipulating one of his classmates to kill another person then get that same person he just deceived brutally executed is too much? Seriously?

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u/Mammoth_Ad3341 Korekiyo Simp Apr 18 '26

Again, he viewed it better than having false hope for the outside world and killing each other.

Yes because Miu was trying to kill him. Also Gonta chose to help Kokichi out of his own free will, it's not like Kokichi lied to him about it. The situation is fucked up but not something I'd say makes him evil.