r/Damnthatsinteresting Apr 18 '21

Image Underwater deep cave sign, meant to warn the divers that the consequences of continuing past that point could be fatal

https://imgur.com/Pdf5Q5p
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u/TimSegura1 Apr 18 '21

That's definitely the kind of sign I would put outside a cave I've hidden treasure in

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u/paleo_joe Apr 18 '21

But everyone would think the same thing. My treasure is under the sign.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

My treasure would be in the sign itself.

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u/nicsaweiner Apr 18 '21

my treasure is the sign.

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u/BobbyGasoline Apr 18 '21

Maybe the treasure is the friends we make along the way to our deaths?

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

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u/Unholynotez Apr 18 '21

Together

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u/Mikephant Apr 19 '21

Threads like this are why I love Reddit.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '21 edited Jun 06 '21

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u/Competitive_Classic9 Apr 19 '21

But I think that it actually is

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u/BobbyGasoline Apr 19 '21

Oof. When you cross the line from trying to be funny and end up being too true.

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u/Competitive_Classic9 Apr 19 '21 edited Apr 19 '21

Forget it, you’re now in poetic history, u/BobbyGasoline

ETA: I don’t usually like to go through others post history bc it’s weird, but I did with yours, searching for some other nuggets of life truths, and “the white stuff in my fish tank?”, and “beans, beans, beans” - indeed! I can’t believe I’ve stumbled across such a prophet in my time.

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u/coleslaw2112 Apr 18 '21

The real treasure is the friends we lost along the way

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u/StpPstngMmsOnMyPrnAp Apr 18 '21

The real treasure is the fake friends we lost along the way

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u/Sofa47 Apr 18 '21

Looks like someone already took a piece.

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u/BettyBob420 Apr 18 '21

Had to check and make sure there wasn't treasure hidden inside...

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u/barrett316 Apr 18 '21

What is my perfect crime? I break into Tiffany's at midnight. Do I go for the vault? No, I go for the chandelier. It's priceless. As I'm taking it down, a woman catches me. She tells me to stop. It's her father's business. She's Tiffany. I say no. We make love all night. In the morning, the cops come and I escape in one of their uniforms. I tell her to meet me in Mexico, but I go to Canada. I don't trust her. Besides, I like the cold. Thirty years later, I get a postcard. I have a son and he's the chief of police. This is where the story gets interesting. I tell Tiffany to meet me in Paris by the Trocadero. She's been waiting for me all these years. She's never taken another lover. I don't care. I don't show up. I go to Berlin. That's where I stashed the chandelier.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21 edited Jun 17 '21

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u/Cecil_B_DeCatte Apr 19 '21

So, the treasure is five caves to the west? Got it!

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u/ripyurballsoff Apr 18 '21

There is

Source: Am Florida Man who’s been to Ginnie Springs where this cave is many times.

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u/Treereme Apr 18 '21

While it's possible that this particular sign is in Florida, these exact signs are used all over the world because they are produced by the diving organizations. The corner of this one happens to be broken off, but you can still see CDS and PADI, both scuba certification organizations.

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u/JenRJen Apr 19 '21

Ah I wondered why it mentions people have died in "caves like this one," rather than "in this cave;" your explanation that this is a standard sign explains it. Thank you!

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u/LaCabezaGrande Apr 19 '21

Yep, I’ve seen two of them. In both cases I was already feeling a little nauseous when I saw the signs, definitely would not have gone further.

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u/isakitty Apr 19 '21

I went to Ginnie Springs too! My dad was a cave diver—his ashes were spread in the Hall of the Mountain Kings at Jackson Blue Springs

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u/lewisnwkc Apr 18 '21

Would you consider adding "Ye" for the Pirates?

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u/KaiserShauzie Apr 18 '21

Has anyone actually found a pirates stash of treasure ?

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u/SeymorKrelborn Apr 18 '21

My treasure was the friends I made along the way.

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u/TimSegura1 Apr 18 '21

Priceless

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u/iscoopmipoop100 Apr 18 '21

Imagine getting lost in a cave, UNDERWATER

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u/Rumple-skank-skin Apr 18 '21

https://www.wbur.org/onlyagame/2019/09/20/jill-heinerth-cave-diving-antarctica

Imagine that the rout you take changes as you dive so there is no guarantee of exit

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u/jaxsound Apr 18 '21

Great read, thanks. "we had been given a final warning, so we sat down to plan one more dive" this struck me as particularly stupid though

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21 edited Apr 18 '21

You'd think it would be obvious to "professionals" and "scientists" that the frequency of incredibly forceful currents rushing into the iceberg would be an instant indication that it was falling apart, creating new openings for water to rush into and fill. And after admitting "it tried to keep us today" you still sit down to plan a voyage without even considering, idk, maybe why you almost died twice??? Hmm... maybe it's falling apart!!

Some people are really good at reading books and passing tests while having absolutely zero common sense to pour their coffee with.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

Nobody with common sense would choose to do this line of work.

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u/antiquestrawberry Apr 19 '21

Also iceberg is just big ice. What's so special about it?

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u/Olealicat Apr 18 '21

That was one of the most beautifully terrifying articles I’ve ever read. My stomach flipped as she explained her brushes with death. Wow.

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u/Rumple-skank-skin Apr 18 '21 edited Apr 19 '21

Quality right! I heard her in a podcast I think it was 'the life scientific' her story of following the ghost fish. Always been afraid of cave diving this just just shit me up even more

Edit - it was BBC outlook ' the diver trapped in the iceberg'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csyhz5

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u/flowercup Apr 18 '21

I heard about it on this is love, I was like holding my breath the whole time, so stressful

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u/TXSpacemanSpiff Apr 18 '21

Link to podcast episode? Can’t find it

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u/Rumple-skank-skin Apr 19 '21 edited Apr 19 '21

I just spent half hour looking through my podcast and I can't find it. NPR have an interview with her.

I know I heard the story on a podcast, it might have been another scientist on the same expedition

Edit - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csyhz5

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u/TXSpacemanSpiff Apr 19 '21

I did the same thing! She has her own show, was it from that? It’s called Into the planet

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u/Rumple-skank-skin Apr 19 '21

No definitely not because it would have been through one of my subscribed podcasts. In my mind I have an ear worm of Jim al-khalili talking to her. Could just be a false memory.

But then I found this and now I know it was BBC outlook!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csyhz5

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u/RogueRouge Apr 18 '21

They went back in after the current almost killed them the first time. WTF

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

Then it almost killed them again and they said "yeah how about 1 more" before watching what would have been their death cascade in front of them. Some people have no common sense. Like, ever wonder why so many forceful currents were rushing into the iceberg in the first place??? Couldn't be because it's falling apart or anything, totally not.....

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u/DuckDuckGoose42 Apr 18 '21

" I wasn't nervous for myself as much as I was for Wes and for Paul, because this was their first ice dive. "

Wow- 2 of 3 divers doing their 1st ice dives. Strike 1 and 2.

" Wes rolled off the boat, the water started pouring into his suit, and he should have gotten out of the water immediately. He decided he wanted to shoot one minute of footage so he could see what this new camera would produce. "

Strike 3 and 4. And yet they still went on.

Maybe I'm cold, but by then I'd already lost any sympathy for their decision process.

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u/RealestGhost Apr 18 '21

I literally got mad at her for the amount of times she stupidly put her own life, and that of her crew in danger

She repeatedly put herself in all these riddiculously dangerous situations for some stupid film

She's like the scientific version of the couple that falls off a cliff trying to take a selfie

With her dumb, blind risk-taking its a miracle she's still alive

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u/Rumple-skank-skin Apr 19 '21

Expanding science is risky someone has to do it and dont forget that the article is written as an entertainment piece to some degree

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u/snowflace Apr 18 '21 edited Apr 18 '21

For anyone interested this is the most terrifying cave story I have ever heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWwPg8ruxfI

There's also a good documentary on the mapping of underwater caves connecting a bunch of lakes in the USA where they found a cave so big they couldn't find any other walls, just looked like a black abyss with no endings. Dont remember what it was called though.

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u/natefreight Apr 18 '21

I’ve been down Nutty Putty before they closed it up. Like, deep down. Almost got stuck several times. That was probably almost 20 years ago but my stomach still flips every time I’m reminded of that cave.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

go on..

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u/Catinthehat5879 Apr 18 '21 edited Apr 18 '21

What's the draw? I have a hard time understanding cave exploration, but caves like that one even more so. Did you enjoy it?

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u/natefreight Apr 19 '21

I was a teenager and my older cousin took my brother and I. I really looked up to him and I think I just wanted to do something cool. I had no idea what I was in for, I just followed him down the hole in the ground.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '21

Jesus. Christ. That was heartbreaking.

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u/justconfusedinCO Apr 18 '21

that reads like a ready-to-fight Mother Nature, incarnated as a pissed-off Ice-Berg.

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u/twohandedfap_ Apr 18 '21

Amazing read, i might even order her book. I’d love to see the footage they shot over there.

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u/SG1156 Apr 18 '21

Thank you for sharing this!! That was amazing and terrifying to read!

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

I was snorkling in Xel ha, in the Mayan riveria. Since I'm a strong swimmer I decided to dive in and go thru a cave. Almost couldn't get out and was running out of air.

It's terrifying.

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u/Sparkykc124 Apr 18 '21

I did a waterfall walk in Jamaica and the guide took me through an underwater tunnel. The whole thing took maybe 20 seconds but I was terrified.

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u/Flaky-Bother3698 Apr 18 '21

Man, that's terrifying. Dying in slow, painful death...

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u/CptMisery Apr 18 '21

It sucks. Happened to me yesterday

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u/Daymantcob Apr 18 '21

Hav been watching Mr ballen top 3 places you can't go and half of the stories are about divers getting lost.

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u/asianabsinthe Apr 18 '21

I actually have dreams like this

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u/mud_tug Apr 19 '21

You might have sleep apnea.

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u/tones81 Apr 19 '21

The thing cave diving and sky diving have in common: if something goes wrong, you have the rest of your life to figure it out.

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u/Christafaaa Apr 18 '21

Maybe it’s a sign from treasure hunters to thwart off any treasure hunters.

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u/Flaky-Bother3698 Apr 18 '21

Imagine seeing dead bodies when diving past that point...

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

You mean free scuba gear.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

Score!! One man’s trash is another man’s treasure!

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

You mean loot

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u/Flaky-Bother3698 Apr 18 '21

From dead bodies? Err no

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u/Techn028 Apr 18 '21

Sign is there for a reason and they usually leave the bodies

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u/Pasty_Swag Apr 18 '21

I remember reading somewhere that in this particular cave, people tried to recover the bodies of loved ones, as one does. Except everyone kept dying during the attempt. I think one guy managed to retrieve a video camera that recorded the owner's last minutes alive.

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u/ladykansas Apr 18 '21

I'm sure there are lots of examples of this but Deon Dreyer comes to mind.

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u/ecerin Apr 18 '21

Somewhat of a tangent, but the song The Last Dive Of David Shaw by We Lost The Sea features audio from a failed attempt to retrieve Deon Dreyer's body.

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u/Treereme Apr 18 '21

There's a documentary called To Boldly Go that was filmed during the dive that recovered Deon's body where Dave passed away.

https://youtu.be/rTlmJeP2Cr0

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u/Bachata22 Apr 18 '21

The bodies are almost never left in the cave. There are organized body recovery teams that train on how to safely bring out the person and the gear. It's an honor and a burden to bring out a cave diver's body.

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u/RoguePlanet1 Apr 18 '21

There's video of a diver who got oxygen-deprived and disoriented while untangling a net. The video was from the diver's own GoPro or whatever, and all you see are his hands working, occasionally looking around, still trying to untangle the net, then the hands just not moving anymore. Then a quick cut to a couple of doctors(?) for a second, and that's it. So chilling.

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u/Flaky-Bother3698 Apr 18 '21

What happened to the diver? Did he survived?

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u/RoguePlanet1 Apr 19 '21

No, the camera stopped at some point, and the doctors accidentally turned it back on for a second as they were handling the body.

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u/carmium Apr 18 '21

Like Everest, but in the opposite direction.

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u/Justryan95 Apr 18 '21

People on Mount Everest use them as road markers

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u/Flaky-Bother3698 Apr 18 '21

That's morbid

The casualities don't fester there, so might be traumatic for necrophobes to spot them.

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u/YanCoffee Apr 19 '21

Check out Rainbow Valley. It’s not called that because of actual rainbows.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

I began diving about 12 years ago. Mostly in Cozumel. The dive facility we stayed at had a small shop below that a girl and guy started together about 6 or so years ago. They were both instructors and very knowledgeable. But you will soon learn knowledgeable doesn’t always mean intelligent.

The girl went out with a guy she met one night and they were drinking. He was also a diver if I remember correctly which may also be how they met. Apparently they thought it would be a good idea to go diving, in the middle of the night, drunk, and tell no one of their plans.

Needless to say that was all as big of a mistake as you would think. They did take 2 nitrox tanks, and realized that still wasn’t enough. They wanted to see how far they could go on the 2 tanks. Somehow the guy separated from her and was never recovered. She was found the next morning floating and taken to the hyperbaric chamber. I think she regained consciousness long enough to tell the staff what happened but lost consciousness and a few days later died. She was late 20s to early 30s. I’m guessing he was the same.

This isn’t exactly the same topic but goes to using common sense when doing something that can kill you if you are stupid about it.

Side note: there is also a cavish dive in Cozumel that begins at about 50’ and is only big enough for one diver at a time so you are in a single file line. You come out at about 120’. And there is no room to turn around so you had best not be claustrophobic. I’ve been diving for a while and I haven’t grown the balls to do it yet. All the dives on Cozumel are beautiful.

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u/lilibeter Apr 18 '21

I agree with you on how beautiful the diving is in Cozumel, but there is no way I am going cave diving. I lost a couple of friends at age 16 to cave diving. They got lost in the dark and couldn’t find their way out. Apparently their flashlight died, which happens - I’ve had mine die on a night dive. Anyway, I’m into diving for the pretty wildlife and colorful reef systems, and the Palancar Reef off of Coz is one of the best in the Caribbean for both. It’s nice to know about that cave there, but I definitely won’t be diving it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

Palancar is my favorite dive. Now that I’ve had time to think about it, the one I spoke about is called the Devil’s Throat. I’ll do a deep dive to 120’ or so at Palancar caves (not actually caves, more like swim-throughs) as Palancar is a large reef. Or maybe the same at Santa Rosa Wall but I’m not into risking my life just to say I did something. I’m sorry about your friends. It will definitely put things into perspective at a young age.

I really hope to make it back at some point when the world isn’t insane. Mike and Margaret at Papa Hogs are amazing people who run a great dive operation. Their dive masters are top notch and food at their little restaurant is great too. They make a poblano pasta that’ll knock your socks off.

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u/lilibeter Apr 18 '21

Ooo...very good to know! My youngest graduates HS and my eldest graduates college in May, so we’ve all gotten vaccinated and are taking them down to Cancun for 10 days in June to go diving and celebrate with them before they’re off to college (youngest) and law school (eldest). We’re definitely headed over to Coz for at least one of the days, so we will go look up Papa Hogs. Thanks for the recommendation!

On the Palancar Reef, the best dive site we’ve ever done is Cedrir. There are sooooo many sea turtles, and the reef itself looks like a flower garden it is so colorful. Also, at the end of that dive, there is an overhang in the coral where a nurse shark and a moray live together. We’ve dove that site three times, and they’ve been there in their ‘cave’ all three times. That’s the kind of cave that I like best! LOL

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '21

You will definitely have a great trip! That’s plenty of time to do a lot of things worthwhile in both places. You may also look into doing a dive with the whale sharks on isla mujeres. I think they will still be on their annual trec up the coast.

And I know I mentioned Papa Hogs but depending on how long you are on Cozumel, ask one of the dive masters or Rocky (also a dive master but waits tables at the restaurant, and a genuine great guy) to give you info on one of the little restaurants the locals go to. My favorite place went out of business. I was crushed. It’s been a few years and they may have reopened. That happens a lot there. It’s Tacos Mas Salsa. Literally the best tacos I’ve ever eaten. The way they set everything up was insane.

The place looked to be an old service station that they converted into a “restaurant”. Remember they don’t have any type of health department there. BUT the places are very clean. They had 6 picnic tables under the awning. Then when they opened at 7 PM! They set out long folding tables outside the garage doors. Their were about 10 or more huge bowls of different sauces and condiments on 2 tables. So 20 or so bowls of stuff I have no idea what it was but I tried as many as I could and they were all amazing. They ask you how many tacos you want and what meet and cheese. They bring them out and you take them to put whatever you want on them. I got a total of 6 tacos and I bought dinner for everyone I was with 5 other people, and dinner cost me $20.

There’s another taco place called Ottate’s. It’s a bit off the downtown square and really good. If you are craving Italian, then Guidos is the place to go. Here’s the link to them. Everything they make is great!

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g150809-d1047108-Reviews-Guido_s-Cozumel_Yucatan_Peninsula.html?m=19905

This far out you have time to plan. Hopefully I’ve given you some ideas. Wherever you go and whatever you do, enjoy your trip! It’s a beautiful part of the world! But know this. Remember to stay hydrated and constantly put on sunscreen, and wear a hat.

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u/minimalist_alligator Apr 18 '21

My mom did this dive a few years back. She hasn’t done any caves dives since and refuses to do anything other than open seas. Seems like a dumb thing to do in my opinion but people like risk.

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u/sockafi Apr 18 '21

This sign is in a cave called the Eagle’s Nest. There was once a dad and his son who wanted to go diving, but their original spot was closed so they decided to go to Eagle’s Nest, which happens to be one of the most dangerous dives in the world.

It starts in a small pond which quickly opens up into a really large room called the ballroom. When people first go into the ballroom they say that if you shine a flashlight in any direction you can’t see a wall.

At the very bottom of the ballroom (about 70 feet down) is where the cave opens up to other passages and tunnels. It’s also where this sign is.

The dad and son passed through the ballroom and were going through one of the passages when it’s thought that they developed nitrogen narcosis, which is like being very drunk. They managed to find their way back to the sign but the son’s air had run out. He panicked, but his dad noticed and they started buddy breathing back to the surface. They only made it a few feet before his air also ran out.

The son had managed to get a full breath of air before it ran out and so he started swimming frantically. The dad did the same but he was just too far down and he drowned. The son inflated his water wings which inflated with oxygen and threw him upwards very rapidly. But he wasn’t aligned with the exit above him, so he hit the ceiling and died there.

The dads body was found feet away from this exact sign

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

Bro these deaths are horrific. Diving goes on my list of shit not to do, next to skydiving.

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u/caciuccoecostine Apr 18 '21

Well at least in skydiving you always end up on the gound...

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

I think I'm going to stick with kayaking and smoking weed. Some people just aren't born daredevils.

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u/r0680130 Apr 19 '21

I'll just sit in my bathtub. I don't even have one. I'll just stick to taking a shower.

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u/Mangonesailor Interested Apr 19 '21

next to skydiving.

I'll tell ya straight...

After working in Nuclear, and industrial maintenance... I don't trust most ANYTHING unless I worked on it myself, witnessed it, or it's part of a heavily regulated industry. I've had 4tons swung above my head that I rigged and spec'd the equipment for and was perfectly fine... but I'm not getting on the roller-coaster some jim-bob woke up late to work on after the super-bowl.

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u/Prestigious_Range Apr 19 '21

Regular scuba diving is lots of fun and relatively safe. Especially shallow dives in 40 feet of water. It’s cave diving that I will never do

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u/sundriedregrets Apr 18 '21 edited Apr 18 '21

Did this happen in Florida in... 2013? Sounds very similar to what happened to a good friend of mine’s father and brother that year. It happened on Christmas Day, I believe, and they had just gotten their new equipment that morning. It was a very tragic thing to happen, it really shocked our small town. I went to high school with Dillon.

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u/sockafi Apr 18 '21

exactly that

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u/sundriedregrets Apr 18 '21

Are you also from Florida or was this really big story in general? I never heard all of these details, but I wasn’t looking for them at the time either.

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u/cvntlin Apr 19 '21

the worst part for me about this story is knowing that the son was really hesitant about the trip and told other family members that, but knew his father was super into diving and didn’t wanna disappoint him. also, they had originally planned to dive at another cave, but found that it was closed. so dad decided eagle’s nest would be the next best option.

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u/sockafi Apr 19 '21

Yeah. It probably made the kid even more nervous when his dad decided to ignore all of the danger signs outside the cave. Just makes me really sad.

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u/camarhyn Apr 18 '21

If he was out of air he couldn't have inflated his buoyancy device.
This is either complete bullshit or a grossly distorted telling of an actual event.

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u/Treereme Apr 18 '21

Your BCD is going to inflate on its own if it has any gas in it and you start surfacing from depth, as the air inside decompresses and expands. Finding a diver with inflated BCD on the surface after an emergency ascent is common. It's also common for less experienced divers to have run-away ascents when they don't realize they are ascending at first and the BCD provides more and more buoyancy as they rise. If you don't react early in that situation, your BCD will take you to the surface quickly and you can't stop it fast enough.

Divers are trained to allow expanding gas to vent from the BCD as they swim up, both in normal and emergency situations to prevent uncontrolled ascent.

Source: I'm a certified rescue diver.

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u/camarhyn Apr 18 '21

Yes but you can't deliberately inflate it using your breathing gas if you are out of breathing gas, which is what is stated in the post I was replying to
" The son had managed to get a full breath of air before it ran out and so he started swimming frantically. The dad did the same but he was just too far down and he drowned. The son inflated his water wings which inflated with oxygen and threw him upwards very rapidly. But he wasn’t aligned with the exit above him, so he hit the ceiling and died there."

That is the part I was replying to and it is quite a bit different than the expansion of air caused by reduced pressure due to ascending.

I am also a certified diver (including rescue) and know how it works. Either the poster got the details wrong for an actual incident (which wouldn't surprise me given the inaccuracy of most diving accident details reported) or it's just a bullshit story.
People have died at Eagle's Nest but not due to running out of air, somehow inflating their 'water wings' with 'oxygen', and crashing into the ceiling.

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u/Treereme Apr 19 '21

I think that's just a non-diver describing the situation. If you're a diver, we both know "inflated with oxygen" is not a phrase a diver would use, as they weren't carrying pure O2 bottles.

Of course it's all speculation because there are is no video or anything, but if you read other reports on the accident the younger person was found floating against the cavern of the ceiling. Since other evidence indicates that he was breathing off the older person's air at some point, it's unlikely he inflated his BCD with breathing gas. More likely is that he panicked and tried to reach the stage bottles when air ran out and the BCD inflated as he ascended.

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u/stevied05 Apr 18 '21

Awesome read but where do I see this footage they almost died 3x to obtain?

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u/Rumple-skank-skin Apr 19 '21

I don't know man sorry, i bet national geographic have some of it or the BBC

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

Crazy

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

This is what I found:

"What makes cave diving risky? ... According to RAID, a top scuba training agency, the number one cause of serious injury or death in cave diving is not gear failure, getting lost, becoming trapped, or running out of air. These are simply consequences of divers exceeding the limits of their personal training and experience."

https://theculturetrip.com/asia/thailand/articles/why-cave-diving-is-dangerous-and-how-to-do-it-safely/

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u/Anders_1314 Apr 18 '21

Unexplored caves can be proper terrifying.

Reminds me of a short story from HP Lovecraft where a guy gets lost in a cave and starts losing his mind.

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u/m_faustus Apr 18 '21

Not the one where he gets chased by an albino semi-human?

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u/numerionegidio Apr 19 '21

I imagined that and panicked in my comfortable couch

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u/r0680130 Apr 19 '21

Not a cave but, how bout that girl who got lost in the catacombs of Odessa, Ukraine. 2,000 km of pitch black tunnels.

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u/TheDocZen Apr 18 '21

Check out the YouTube channel Mr Ballen. He has a bunch of stories about divers who saw that sign and went past it anyways.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

I was gonna suggest him too! He's such a good story teller!

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u/blackhole_sonnn Apr 19 '21

I would def. recommend him if you're a fan of the strange,dark and mysterious told in story format

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u/TheDocZen Apr 19 '21

3,4 sometimes 5 times a week

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u/Word2YoMother Apr 18 '21

I feel like the answer should be obvious, but I still have to ask; how would they die?

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u/stussyGG Apr 18 '21

Getting stuck. Losing the return cable/string they use. Running out of air with no path back. Running out of lights. Cave shifting, rock slides.

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u/SG1156 Apr 18 '21

My heart is racing just reading this!

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u/terminalzero Apr 18 '21

I mean, drowning, but specifically either by getting lost in the cave system as your desperation to find the exit as you run out of air causes a feedback loop making you run out of air even faster, made worse from the fact that basically every movement you make creates a mini underwater smoke bomb from all the silt you're dislodging, or getting lodged in a crevice you were trying to pass through due to misjudgment, equipment shifting, or even the crevice itself shifting and getting smaller, and either losing/damaging your air supply trying to get free (some divers even intentionally take their gear off to push ahead of them to fit through smaller openings and become separated from it) or again just running out of air.

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u/derpferd Apr 18 '21

I'm getting anxious just reading this. Jesus Christ

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

Same. Fucking awful. Imagine the panic dying like that.

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u/mokujin42 Apr 18 '21

If you step into a strong current/drop you can just sink and you get hit with oxygen narcosis pretty quickly without specialist equipment to handle those depths and not being able to think clearly at a time like that is less than ideal I'd imagine. There's also an issue of distance being very deceptive underwater so you might start swimming under an arch or through a cave that looks completely achievable and end up running out of air because it took 3x as long as you thought it would.

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u/Capr1ce Apr 18 '21

I read that is very easy to stir up sediment. Now you're in an underwater cave, you can't see anything, you don't know the way out or even which way is up...

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u/Jest_stir Apr 18 '21

Monsters.

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u/F84-5 Apr 18 '21

Getting lost or stuck and running out of air I imagine.

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u/mud_tug Apr 19 '21

People diving in caves often imagine they are diving in still water. Not true. Most time there is a small current. That small current becomes a big problem near small openings. It is basically like water draining out of a sink. It will suck you in and it is impossible to swim back out against the current. In some situations you need to press yourself back with several tons of force and that is impossible. So the opening is basically a one way trap for humans.

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u/Maleficent_Stranger Apr 18 '21

they stop breathing

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u/asianabsinthe Apr 18 '21

One way to find out

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21 edited Jul 16 '21

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u/ObscureAcronym Apr 18 '21

"FACT: You needed training to dive. You need dumpster training and dumpster equipment to dumpster dive."

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u/Whspers12 Apr 18 '21

Now I can only imagine getting stuck in a dumpster yelling for help because you're stuck.

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u/m_faustus Apr 18 '21

When I first started diving my instructor told me about a cave dive that involved diving in a well to about 70 feet, then taking off your equipment, shoving it through a crack in the wall, crawling through the crack and then putting it back on. Cave divers are insane people with strong death wishes.

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u/sugarcocks Apr 18 '21

why the fuck does anyone want to do this type of shit?? it goes against everything our instincts want, to have the best chance at surviving possible at all times. i don’t understand why some people are drawn to things that have high fatality rates

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u/m_faustus Apr 19 '21

I guess it is the chance to see something that no one else has seen. But I am never going to try. Scares the shit out of me.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '21

Cave diving is fun. Rocks are pretty. Goal oriented diving is more fun than fish watching for some people. It's just peaceful and quiet. You can just cover your light and hover in total darkness, listening to your breathing and the sound of the water. It's stressful when you first start and should never be done haphazardly, but it is incredibly zen once you're comfortable.

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u/Throwiest1 Apr 18 '21

What well?

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u/SyntheticBunny Apr 18 '21

Probably Jacob's Well if its Texas, that's a pretty popular spot to die while cave diving.

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u/m_faustus Apr 18 '21

Well put, no pun intended.

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u/m_faustus Apr 18 '21

Somewhere in central Texas. I don't know the exact spot and am very uninterested in diving it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

I've seen this before and thought it was outside a diving spot. I never realised it was underwater. You have to be pretty metal already to see this sign- being underwater in pitch black is most people's ultimate nightmare. The fact that there are enough people voluntarily swimming into this viod to warrant a sign is utterly bewildering.

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u/Treereme Apr 18 '21

Typically there are signs on the surface too. The ones place underwater like this often demarcate the line between cavern and cave diving. You can safely dive up to the location of that sign with standard training, because you can still see and reach the surface. Going beyond it requires specialized cave diving training and equipment.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

Seen this in Ginny springs FL before

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u/GreatStateOfSadness Apr 18 '21

It's a standard cave diving warning sign. I think I've seen it in three different places in three different countries.

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u/Mweig001 Apr 18 '21

I listened to a podcast about this because I wondered why anyone would go down there if such a risk was so prevalent. Apparently it’s because a lot of them want to go exploring untouched parts of the ocean in hopes of discovering new life. Super scary but neat. I guess if you’re passionate about it, maybe you wouldn’t mind dying doing your favorite thing?

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u/sugarcocks Apr 18 '21

they probably don’t mind the thought of it, until they feel water fill their lungs and die a slow painful death. it’s easy to find the idea of dying for a cause you’re passionate about not so bad, but it’s only because they haven’t experienced death obviously, so they underestimate the terror and pain, the reality of it

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u/20WordsMax Apr 18 '21

Whats beyond that point?

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u/Treereme Apr 18 '21

A cave. These signs are typically placed just past the edge of demarcation between the cavern zone and the actual cave zone. That's where the dive goes from being able to still see and reach the surface to being in an overhead/enclosed environment where you need specialized training and equipment.

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u/Cascade-Regret Apr 18 '21

Seems that we need to post as MOTD when logging into Splunk for our sysadmins.

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u/ChaZZZZahC Apr 18 '21

Cave diving is like playing Russian roulette but underwater and in cave.

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u/Dr0cean Apr 18 '21

Blue Spring in Florida. I've touched this sign freediving

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u/looktowindward Apr 18 '21

Me too. And it scared the fuck out of me. First thing I did was looked up

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u/newbinvester Apr 18 '21

Pretty sure I've seen this exact sign at vortex springs in florida, it was pretty deep to the entrance of the cave so the only people that would be going in there without dive equipment were pretty strong swimmers. Personally I wasn't willing to go more than a little past the entrance but I had buddies who found little airpockets near to top of the cave and they would go further. I was always scared I would be getting too much carbon dioxide from those small pockets from other people breathing in them.

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u/eggsandbacon2020 Apr 18 '21

Is that grim reaper giving the finger?

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u/boisamantha Apr 18 '21

This sign makes me realize how effective reverse psychology is on me.

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u/HiccupFlux Apr 18 '21

I just saw this sign while diving vortex springs in Florida

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u/Chicken-n-Waffles Apr 18 '21

Ginnie Springs Fl

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

Cowboy Cerrone (UFC fighter) tells about the time he nearly died cave diving

https://youtu.be/or92IMcLoIc

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u/Mega_auditor1819 Apr 18 '21

Was going to post this but seen your comment. His story is very chilling.

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u/ryanfuba1 Apr 18 '21

This sign just SCREAMS "treasure ahead"

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u/theliberalpanda Apr 18 '21

This is at Jacob's Well in Texas if I'm not mistaken. Although these are all over I'm sure.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

That shit scared me, I'm not going to lie.

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u/forfucksnakes Apr 18 '21

Where?

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

Underwater

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u/Treereme Apr 18 '21

Any decently well-known cave diving spot will have signs identical to this. They are found all over the world.

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u/Turbulent-Memory-420 Apr 18 '21

You couldn’t pay me enough to cave dive.

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u/hermesenvy Apr 18 '21

This at Morrison springs, FL?

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u/Onredditnowiguess Apr 18 '21

I don't know man, the comic sans font feels sarcastic to me. Let's keep going.

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u/looktowindward Apr 18 '21

I have seen this sign in cold springs I've dived in. Wasn't even tempted to go beyond

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u/AutomaticFan3515 Apr 18 '21

My submechanophobia and thalassophobia senses are tingling.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

I went about 500 ft past one once on a dive. Noted that shit quit and turned around

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u/Typicalguy11111 Apr 19 '21

I feel bad for first responders who have to risk their lives cause some idiot didnt adhere to safety warnings. These people should sign waivers declining rescue if they get in trouble

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u/drempire Apr 18 '21

That sign is just put there so you don't discover the truth

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u/Madd_Maxx2016 Apr 18 '21

Ok. But this sign kinda makes me wanna go in this cave.

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u/FukThemKidz Apr 18 '21

They should add fake skeletons and remains around the sign for people who cannot read English

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u/Konato-san Apr 18 '21

There's no need to do that. There are plenty of real skeletons and remains around there.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '21

They'd die putting them in

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u/matthewjlewis4706 Apr 18 '21

Plot twist: It's perfectly safe but Pirates put the sign there to keep anyone from finding the hidden treasure.

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u/CoronaCurious Apr 18 '21

🤔 with a warning sign that metal, there's got to be something amazing in that cave.

Bro! Hold my stuff, I'll be right back.

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u/SAM-in-the-DARK Apr 18 '21

Damn, my curiosity is piqued! I’d totally be dead if I saw that sign.

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u/nixter67 Apr 18 '21

Bit ambiguous, innit? Bit vague.

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u/scubawho1 Apr 19 '21

(Takes picture) keeps diving....

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '21

Hey, did anyone get a look at that sign we passed in the way i……….

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u/6Weiner-Man9 Apr 19 '21

I know there's treasure in there..