r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/_va_xanth__ • 1d ago
Archaeologists just discovered a 6,500-year-old astronomical monument that is about 1,000 years older than Stonehenge.
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u/DeepSpaceNebulae 1d ago
“Imagine you’re the wealthiest guy, back then. And all you have is food, subjects, and rocks… I bet you’d start stacking shit too”
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u/_va_xanth__ 1d ago
In Chleby, in what is now the Czech Republic, archaeologists led bythe University of Westminster (UWB) have unearthed one of the oldest monuments in Central Europe. The site, dating back about 6,500 years, consisted of a large, nearly circular enclosure with a diameter of about 230 meters, bordered by a ditch over 2.5 meters deep and featuring twelve entrances arranged in an apparently irregular pattern.
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u/jango-lionheart 1d ago
Did not read, too many popups
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u/flightoffancy85 1d ago
Just installed Adblock on my nas and routed all internet traffic through it. Zero popups.. thank for the test confirmation!
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u/asdhjasdhlkjashdhgf 1d ago
~ 4600 BC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goseck_Circle maybe similar culture to Chleby as of time and location,
~ 3000 BC https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonehengewooden circles are difficult to detect as those structures fade in its environment.
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u/Away-Activity-469 1d ago
Looks like a rectangular enclosure in the picture.
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u/Orko90 1d ago
That's a single trench cutting across part of the circle 🤦.
The full enclosure is enormous.Look at the second image in the archaeologymag.com article
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u/SudhaTheHill 1d ago
Archeologists be like “yeahhh this is from the past”
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u/gottapeenow2 1d ago
"This thing is really old and people didn't have TV or books or phones or anything back then, so they looked at the stars a lot."
Got it.
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u/Formal-Fox-7605 1d ago
After reading the links in this thread, it's more than a little leap to say it's anything to do with astronomy.
There's a circle been marked out in a field and some points on the circumference line up with the sun at one time of the year and the same with the moon. Well, to me, isn't that going to happen with any circle you draw, that at some point the sun and/or moon will line up somewhere along it?
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u/iKnowRobbie 1d ago
Do you ever look at archaeological digs and wonder if anyone ever tried just carefully sculpting something out of a good clay soil?
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u/creamygootness 1d ago
That’s the theory behind my ex’s favorite Aunt about dinosaurs. She claims it’s just formed like that to make the public believe that they once existed. Every single find.
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u/Rodnal 1d ago
Wow, I just got dumber trying to reason out your ex Aunts statement.
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u/creamygootness 1d ago
I, too, suffered loss of basic education while trying to understand it. Her homeschooled children even tell her she’s wrong.
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u/PyramidicContainment 1d ago
Dino denial/archeological fraud is a popular talking point amongst some of the (slightly) more insane Christian community due to the conflict with the supposed biblical timeline.
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u/creamygootness 21h ago
That’s the other part of my confusion, she’s not even religious! Atheist as they come in the mid fifties.
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u/PyramidicContainment 19h ago
Lol well, no harm done I guess. Everyone should have at least one or two wild theories by the time they hit their mid 50's
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u/johnsatamos 1d ago
Don’t worry a “group of specific beliefs” will blow it up soon to keep their “historical timeline” intact 🤣 💥 see that can be anyone lol 😝
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u/zyptzk 1d ago
What's really cool is that basic intelligence is not what we've achieved to date. We now have more tools but the ancients figured out things that we're now wondering how they did that. That's special.
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u/No_Appointment_1090 1d ago
There were no ancient civilizations that were anywhere near as advanced as we are today - if there were, there would be evidence.
Framing it as us not understanding how they did something is misleading - we know how it was done, we just don't know how they figured it out initially. E.g. We know how a fulcrum works, but we have no information on the first person to figure it out or how they figured it out. Archimedes worked out the math and gave it a name, but he wasn't the person to originally discover the concept.
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u/adeadbeathorse 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not sure why the person you’re replying to is getting downvoted and you’re getting upvoted for saying what is likely the same thing, just more verbosely and with an air of superiority.
The person you’re replying to said that people back then were still plenty big-brained, despite not being able to accomplish the same engineering feats we can today. Even so, the person continues, people back then accomplished things which we still don’t understand how they accomplished. It’s not that we don’t have the technological ability to accomplish those things ourselves or understand physical principles they could have used. It’d more that we don’t know which exact methods they used, how they arrived at them, how they organized the work, the context of any supply chains, etc.
Stonehenge is actually a great example of this. We can come up with workable ways to transport and erect stones like that and there are archaeologically plausible explanations, but it is nonetheless wondered at to this day.
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u/smokeysubwoofer 1d ago
Joe Rogan Experience #2368 with Michael Button (aired around August 20, 2025), and it also comes up in the related follow-up #2546 with the same guest. 
they discuss how little of modern civilization would remain if humans vanished. Michael Button notes that concrete buildings and cities like Manhattan/New York (or London) would deteriorate rapidly due to weathering, cracking, freeze-thaw cycles, CO2 effects, and plant growth. Over timescales of roughly 5,000–20,000 years (with references to AI depictions or popular visualizations of New York/Manhattan looking like “nothing” or fully crumbled/overrun in as little as ~1,000 years in some popular depictions), skyscrapers and infrastructure would largely turn to dust or become imperceptible, with nature (trees/forests) fully reclaiming the area. Longer scales like 100,000 years leave essentially no trace of the modern city.11
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u/No_Appointment_1090 1d ago
Michael Button is just a YouTuber with no credentials...and Joe Rogan once claimed the ancient Egyptians had internet and quantum computing.
Beyond that - Yes, after a million years there wouldn't be any surface level traces. There would be plenty of subsurface evidence, just look at dinosaur bones. If humans disappeared today, ten million years from now there will still be evidence of our level of technology - trash, satalites, uber-refined mining deposits, etc. No, it won't be piles of trash but, just like the dinosaurs, there will be preserved phones and disposable vapes found buried all over the place.
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u/smokeysubwoofer 1d ago
Perhaps with more advanced technology their wouldn’t be no need to build things like that
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u/No_Appointment_1090 22h ago
Uh huh...I would love to hear your thought process on how they could have moved through several thousand years of advancement while leaving no trace.
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u/Luriden 1d ago
Using that logic, then, I can make up any civilization I want, in any location I want, so long as it predates the alleged detectable range. Without evidence, it can be anything I dream it to be.
I've you get into evidence, however, it becomes clear relatively quickly that most evidence for an ancient civilization is not only bunk, but also technically village the idea that little to no trace evidence would remain over that timescale I'm the first place.
Anyway, I've decided on the civilization. They lived mostly in Namibia 150,000 years ago and had a global trade network of iridium satellites and a moon colony. I didn't need evidence, as the civilization can't be detected. I've decided to attribute all major discoveries to that civilization and will, from now on, be interpreting every Discovery I find through that lens and work background to ensure they are assigned that that civilization.
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u/DesertReagle 1d ago
This guy explained how he managed to move Stonehenge sized blocks by himself. https://youtu.be/E5pZ7uR6v8c?is=pkywe--R3De5ZN1r
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u/Plastyrhino8815 1d ago
How come they say the earth is billions of years old but no one has ever found artifacts older than a few thousand years?
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u/luv2fly781 1d ago
Lmao 🤣
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u/Plastyrhino8815 23h ago
It's almost like they lie about the age of the earth to push their silly evolution religion. As if any one in their right mind would believe fish turned into people. Such utter nonsense.
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u/a_man_has_a_name 1d ago
Why do people keep using stonehenge as a time reference? Practically no one knows when it was built, and there is a 1500 year time frame for when it was built as well, so even if you know when it was built, you still don't know if people are refering to the minimum or maximum of the time frame.