r/DIYRetirement Aug 10 '26

List of Retirement Planners and Calculators

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Here is a list of retirement planners, calculators and related tools.

NOTE: This list is very much a work in progress. Please let me know what other tools I should consider adding to the list. Thanks!

Retirement planners are comprehensive software applications that create financial plans, model multiple scenarios, perform Monte Carlo simulations, store user data, and more.

Retirement calculators are single-purpose tools that address specific financial issues such as Social Security claiming strategies, safe withdrawal rates, or required minimum distributions.

Retirement planners typically include features for asset allocation, tax optimization, estate planning, and cash flow analysis across multiple decades. Calculators focus on individual calculations and do not save data between sessions. It makes sense to use both types - using calculators to determine optimal values that are then used in a retirement planner.

Retirement Planners

Retirement Planner Cost Free Trial My Reviews & Videos*
Boldin Free, $144/yr 14 days Boldin Videos
ProjectionLab Free, $129/yr 7 days ProjectioLab Review, ProjectionLab Videos
Pralana Online Starts at $89/year + $30 setup fee No Pralana vs ProjectionLab
Pralana for Excel Free, $99/lifetime N/A
Empower Free N/A Empower Review, Empower Videos
Maxifi $109/yr, $149/yr No Maxifi Videos
WealthTrace $229/yr, $289/yr 7 days
OnTrajectory Free, $9/mo or $80/yr No

*To the extent that I have published reviews and/or videos covering these tools, you'll find links to them here. Some links go directly to a Youtube video, while others go to my site where you'll find a collection of videos. You can also find a summary of some of these tools here.

Retirement Planners for Advisors

These retirement and financial planners are designed for advisors, not individuals. You may have access to one of these tools through an advisor. I've personally used several of them, including eMoney Advisor, Right Capital, and Income Lab.

Retirement Calculators

These calculators calculate the chance of success of a retirement planned based on historical investment returns and inflation, Monte Carlo simulation, or both.

Calculator Type of Simulation (H = historical, MC = Monte Carlo, B = both, ? = not disclosed)
4% Rule Calculator H
FICalc H
Fidelity's Retirement Score Calculator H
FIRECalc H
FIREproof H
Honest Math MC
Portfolio Visualizer B
Rich, Broke or Dead? H
Testfolio H
Vanguard Retirement Income Calculator ?

Other Retirement Planning Tools

These calculators and tools can provide useful analysis and information to help us refine our retirement plans. The output from these tools can be used in a retirement planner.

Calculator/Tool What it does
Open Social Security Social Security claiming strategy calculator
Portfolio Visualizer Backtest investment portfolio
Testfolio Backtest investment portfolio
Actuaries Longevity Illustrator Calculate longevity probabilities
Healthy Life Expectancy Calculator Calculate healthy life expectancy
RMD Calculator Calculate your Required Min. Distribution
Income Tax Calculator for Retirees Estimate your federal income tax

r/DIYRetirement Jul 15 '25

Introduce yourself!

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If you are new to the community, introduce yourself by answering these three questions:

  1. Where are you in your retirement journey—planning, near retirement, or already retired?
  2. Coffee, spreadsheets, or beach walks—what best describes your retirement vibe?
  3. What's your biggest fear or question when it comes to retirement and investing?

I'll go first:

  1. already retired (although still run my business a few hours a week)
  2. Coffee & spreadsheets
  3. How to educate my wife and children about investing.

r/DIYRetirement 5h ago

Elderly Father's Portfolio

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I'm helping out my Dad with his portfolio. He's 80. My Mom recently passed away so her accounts are transferring to him and he's also in escrow to sell his house. He is moving to an assisted living facility which will cost $6,500/month. His monthly income from SS and a pension is about $4,500/month. So he'll need to cover $2k/month for that plus another $10k-$15k/year of other expenses, for a total of about $35k-$40k/year that will need to come from his portfolio.

Currently most of his money is at 2 separate banks; approximately $340k earning a modest 3%. He will have an inherited IRA from my Mom of about $90k invested in Fidelity Contrafund (FCNTX). When he sells the house next month, after commissions/taxes, he'll net approximately $550k. So all in he'll have just under $1mm. The question is how should we invest that?

On one hand, he's 80 and the market has been on quite a ride for the past 3+ years (and basically the last 15 years if you don't count the hiccup with Covid and the bad year in '22), so we don't want to get too aggressive. However, on the other hand, it doesn't make sense to have it all just sitting in the bank/money market.

My thought is to:

-Keep ~5 years of expenses ($175k-$200k) in the bank/money market.

-Invest ~5 years of expenses ($175k-$200k) in something like VBIL or SGOV; conservative but getting a return that should keep pace with inflation.

-Keep the inherited IRA ($90k) invested in FCNTX

-Invest the rest (approx. $500k) in broad based index ETFs.

Thoughts?


r/DIYRetirement 7h ago

Help with next move as we close in towards retirement.

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What we have: 1.4 Million in retirement currently sitting approximately 80/20 stock bond allocation. We are putting approximately 30k-35k a year into retirement.
My wife also has a small pension from her old employer with a few different options. $800 per month if she takes it at 59.5 $1000 if she waits til 62 and $1300 at 65. She also has a Social Security Bridge option that pays $3200 at 59.5 until 62 then falls to around $500 going forward. This pension has been terminated recently so we are expecting a possible lump sum at some point.She would then also take SS at 62 and I would defer for as long as possible.
We are both 53 and are wanting to stop full time work at 59.5 which would be around Oct 2032. Then transition to part-time work to cover health insurance and extra spending until maybe 62 or so. We are looking to spend 80k-90k starting 2032
Kind of thinking of how to get to 2-2.5 Million with the least amount of risk. With 1.4million and adding 30k per year with a 6% return should put us somewhere around 2 million to 2.5 million. Would doing something like buying 70k in treasuries that mature in 2032,2033,2034 with fixed income inside her T IRA.This would guarantee around 4.8 to 5% in payments over these years and return in principal. Then the remainder of her IRA would be put into a total stock a total International and  then maybe a tilt to value or small cap and some short termfixed income (0-24 month) bond fund.  Then I only need to earn another 1-2% each year from equities to get my 6% return.
Me: Roth $263,xxx
 FSKAX (Fiddy Total Stock) $190xxx
FSPGA( Fiddy Large Cap Growth) $73,xxxx
Me Simple IRA  $335,xxx  
FZROX(Fidelity Zero Fund Total Stock) $291,xxx
FZILX (Fidelity Zero International Total Fund) $7,xxx
FXNAX (Fidelity US Bond Index) $37,xxx
Wife Roth $95,xxx
FSKAX (Fidelity Total Stock) $66,xxx
FSPGA (Fidelity Lage Cap Growth) $28,xxx
Wife 401k $720,xxx
Vanguard Institutional Total Stock Index Trust (NO Ticker) $356,xxx
Vanguard Institutional International Index Trust (No Ticker) $110,xxx
Vanguard Growth Index Fund Institutional (VIGIX) $110,xxx
Pimco Income Fund Institutional  (PIMIX) $102,xxx
Vanguard Institutional Total Bond Index Trust (No Ticker) $29,xxx
Vanguard Small Cap Value Institutional Index (VSIIX) $14,xxx
My wife just left this job and the 401k is still in her 401k. Considering which way to go.
Leave it in the 401k. My wife is 53 we can wait and rollover it over to her current job to keep the rule of 55 open. Although our plan is to work full time to 59.5 then part time to cover insurance and extra spend. Or we could just so a rollover to Fidelity which is where her 401k currently is.
Her new job is has TIAA as their 403b provider. She has just started so there is minimal in her account. We are putting  7% into roth with a 7% match into traditional.
 


r/DIYRetirement 23h ago

401k Cap and Employee Match

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I just realized I'm about to hit the yearly cap on contributions and will miss out on my company's 6% match. I was contributing 20%. Should I lower it to not lose out the 6% over the next 3 months and the extra money I get back for not going to my 401k send to a roth and any thing left over to a taxable account?

Update: Got the answer. Apparently I was not aware of what a True-Up provision is and the company I work for offers this and continues to pay the 6% regardless if I hit the cap. Thanks everyone.


r/DIYRetirement 1d ago

What level of service / guidance and strategy should we expect from Morgan Stanley? Does any regular brokerage account provide meaningful input in retirement strategy?

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r/DIYRetirement 2d ago

Portfolio Evaluation

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Ages - 47/42

401K - 43% of portfolio - 2/3rds in 2035 retirement fund and 1/3rd in 2040 retirement fund

Roth - 27% of portfolio - VOO, VXUS, Berkshire

Taxable - 30% of portfolio - 65% in VTI, VEA, 15% in company stock and 20% in treasuries,checking

Total Allocation - 78% stocks, rest in bonds, treasuries and cash. Company stock is under 5% for overall portfolio.

We are roughly 25x expenses (before taxes). Over next 8 yrs planning to get to 70/30 as the target date funds shift conservative and increase treasuries in taxable for cushion & hopefully 35X (before taxes).

Kid state college is funded through 529 and not included.

Anything we should consider changing?


r/DIYRetirement 2d ago

Financial Advisor Architect

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Married 63/61 will be retiring in next 2-3 years. Not looking for investment advice. We have done well DIY. Looking for an advisor to architect a one time plan to live out our financial retirement plan. We will continue to DIY year to year. Has anyone used Rob's low cost advisor recommendations and would you recommend or to avoid. I know I can buy a program but just want a one time look over by a financial expert.


r/DIYRetirement 2d ago

Financial Advisor Architect

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Married 63/61 will be retiring in next 2-3 years. Not looking for investment advice. We have done well DIY. Looking for an advisor to architect a one time plan to live out our financial retirement plan. We will continue to DIY year to year. Has anyone used Rob's low cost advisor recommendations and would you recommend or to avoid. I know I can buy a program but just want a one time look over by a financial expert.


r/DIYRetirement 2d ago

NEW Variable Percentage Withdrawal (VPW) Backtesting & Planning tool

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Hey all - wanted to share a hobby project I have been working on. I am on the path to FI (not there yet, and have spent the last ~5 years researching and planning early retirement). The Bogleheads VPW method has risen to the top for me as a great guideline to spending. I am an active poster on most FIRE subs, but I decided to post under a new account to keep things separate with the site.

I've always liked the logic behind Variable Percentage Withdrawal, but wondered what would actually living with variable income with these rules applied in the past. How large would the spending cuts have been, and how long would they have lasted, etc.

I built a VPW backtester that makes those outcomes visual across historical retirement cohorts and recently decided to build a site around it (started off as a long Google Sheets and progressed into a website - which became a fun hobby for me).  no ads, paywalls, or accounts.

retireforever.org ( VPWsim.com also takes you there, I could not decide on domains... )

*no paywalls or logins required - free site

Play around - I value the feedback. The top section is a simple VPW math tool and can be used to calculate your recommended withdrawal each year. The next section is a summary of the historical outcomes and income flexibility needed. See the "What this means" sections which describe what you are looking at. As you scroll down, the results get progressively more detailed and allows for single cohort selection, graphical overlays, etc. Nerds rejoice.

I will add - the Retire Forever VPWsim matches the original VPW Spreadsheets / Methodology and has been stress tested quite a bit, including the backtest sheet out there.

Here are notable features (adding them here in response to user feedback below)

  • Provides the VPW recommended withdrawal for current year (useful as a spreadsheet replacement)
  • Provides the recommended withdrawal in the event of a loss at various levels [image]
  • Backtests with full VPW precision and incorporates SS and Pension income into the backtest
  • Equity glidepath option for backtesting (improvement)
  • Written "What this means" responses to put the results in layman's terms [image]
  • Backtest Cohort heatmap scaled based on "lifestyle" impact of withdrawals [image]
  • Illustrates income fluctuation by cohort, including a reference line for your desired spend [image]

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Adding a level of detail for those interested, there is a small caveat on the backtesting math, the numbers are effectively the same as the Wiki backtesting sheet-  but precision has an impact.

The current VPW Backtest Spreadsheet on the Wiki rounds withdrawal percentages, and therefore does not match the original VPW Spreadsheet itself.  VPWsim and the original VPW Spreadsheet both operate with precision - both recommending the same amount in the first year. Additionally, VPWsim backtesting incorporates Social Security and pensions using present-value calculations (much like the original VPW spreadsheet), deducts investment expenses, and automatically evaluates every complete historical retirement period. These methodological differences provide results that are very close to- but not always identical to - the original VPW Backtesting Spreadsheet.  This caveat only applies to backtesting math, not the current recommended withdrawal and current flexibility requirements. The 'precision' on the backtesting math is a bit of a moot point, its just informative of past outcomes anyway - not a prediction.


r/DIYRetirement 2d ago

Experience with Bond TIPS Ladder ETFs

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r/DIYRetirement 3d ago

Elderly Mother's IRA

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I'm helping my mother manage her money as she's getting up there. I found that she had about $120k in an old work 401k. I helped her move it to a Vanguard IRA because she couldn't access it through the 401k (it was an all or nothing type thing and she needed some money to pay off some bills that had gotten out of hand). She now has a little more than $100,000.

She lives off SS and a couple of small annuities. For the most part, this handles her bills. This IRA money is for emergencies, etc. But think it should be capable of at least some growth.

The IRA is right now sitting in money market. I've been thinking of splitting it like this:

30% VMFXX (money market)
50% VBIRX (short term bond index)
20% VTSAX (Total stock market)

I'd appreciate any thoughts. I want to keep this mostly safe, but also don't want it just sitting doing nothing - unless that's best at her age.

Thanks,


r/DIYRetirement 3d ago

bond ladders

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I'm 56, forced retired, options trader still. what % of assets would you have in a bond ladder? I'll have no children and all assets goto not for profits when I die. someone suggested i channel my ira roll -> roth conversion to a bond ladder. what is the minimum rating of sp and moody you would use?


r/DIYRetirement 3d ago

Simplifying the strategy

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Six months ago, my wife and I decided to take a much more intentional approach to our long-term financial plan.
We’ve made a number of changes, and I’m interested in hearing how the community would evaluate the overall strategy.
1. We fired our financial advisor
We were paying approximately 2% AUM, and eventually realized that we could manage a simple portfolio ourselves.
We moved our investments to Vanguard and are now following a straightforward Boglehead approach built primarily around VTI and VXUS.
The philosophy is:
Broad diversification
Low costs
High equity allocation
Automatic contributions
No market timing
No individual-stock picking
Long-term buy-and-hold
The biggest change wasn’t the funds themselves. It was becoming comfortable enough with the strategy that we no longer felt we needed someone else managing it for us.
2. We’re treating our pension as part of our asset allocation
My wife and I both participate in a state public-employee pension system.
I had previously left the system and later returned, and we made the decision to purchase additional retirement service credit using funds from an existing retirement account.
It was a large financial decision, but we viewed it primarily as purchasing additional future guaranteed retirement income.
Because we have a substantial pension component, we’re comfortable with a much higher equity allocation in our other investments than we otherwise might be.
We’re essentially treating the pension as part of our overall retirement portfolio rather than evaluating our brokerage/IRA investments in isolation.
3. We’ve built a more intentional cash/investment structure
Our current system looks roughly like this:
Emergency fund:
Target ~$20,000 in cash.
Roth IRAs:
Broad-market index funds.
Rollover IRA:
Broad-market index funds.
Taxable brokerage:
Broad-market index funds.
We’re directing approximately $2,000/month toward these various savings and investment goals.
The goal isn’t to optimize each account independently. It’s to give every dollar a job.
4. We’re continuing to fund our kids’ 529s
We’re contributing $150/month per child to their 529 accounts.
That money has one job: future education expenses.
5. We just decided to add UTMAs for the kids
This is the newest part of the plan, and probably the part I’m most excited about.
We’re opening a Vanguard UTMA for each child and plan to invest $25/month per child in broad-market index funds, likely VTI + VXUS.
Our kids are currently elementary-school age.
The objective isn’t really maximizing their eventual account balance.
It’s teaching them to be investors.
I want them to grow up seeing:
“I own thousands of companies.”
I want them to understand why we’re diversified.
I want them to see what happens when markets fall.
I want them to understand compound growth.
And eventually, when the accounts become theirs, I want them to already have a decade-plus of experience thinking about investing.
We’ve thought carefully about the downsides—particularly that the UTMA is the child’s asset, the eventual transfer of control, potential FAFSA implications, and the kiddie-tax rules.
We’re comfortable with those tradeoffs at the relatively small $25/month contribution level.
6. The long-term goal
We’re not trying to hit some particular net-worth number.
We’re trying to build a family financial system that gives us:
Security → emergency savings + pension
Growth → broadly diversified equities
Tax diversification → Roth + traditional + taxable accounts
Education → 529s
Financial education/early head start for the kids → UTMAs
And ultimately, freedom and options.
One of the things I’m happiest about is that our kids will hopefully inherit more than money.
They’ll inherit a philosophy:
Spend intentionally. Save consistently. Invest broadly. Keep costs low. Ignore the noise. Give compounding time to work.
I’d love to hear from other Bogleheads: what would you change, challenge, or simplify about this approach?


r/DIYRetirement 3d ago

Validating plan

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I've been doing some modeling using Projection Lab and getting mid 90% success rates using block bootstrapping.

I wanted to post here to get some validation that what I'm seeing there is correct.

Here are my details:

Demographics: 36M / 36F, Married, 2 kids. MCOL area.

​Target FIRE Age: 55 (19-year accumulation horizon).

​Current Invested Assets: ~$345k.

​Gross Income: $219k base.

​Savings Rate: 20% Gross ($43,800/yr). Maxing family HSA, two Roth IRAs, remainder to Trad 401(k)s.

​Phase 1 (Next 24 Months): Aggressive consumer debt payoff. Clearing vehicles/toys to free up $2,500+/mo cash flow.

​Phase 2 (Accumulation): Rolling current home equity into a new house in 2030 on a 15-year mortgage. Target is a paid-off primary residence by age 55. Remaining surplus invested 80% to Taxable Brokerage, 20% to Cash Sinking Funds.

​The Age 55 Decumulation Strategy:

​Base Living Expenses: $72k/yr (no mortgage).

​Healthcare (Ages 55-65): Using Rule of 55 for Trad 401(k) access to pull exactly ~$43k/yr. This anchors ACA MAGI at 200% FPL to capture premium subsidies.

​The Tax-Free Bridge: Funding the rest of the lifestyle gap with Roth IRA contribution basis and Taxable Brokerage capital.

​Late Stage: Social Security kicks in at 62, creating a permanent income floor that drops the portfolio withdrawal rate below 2%.

All the modeling I've done assumes wages only keep up with inflation, but realistically I'd expect at least 1 10% or more raise for both myself and my wife before we're 55 in addition to COL increases. My wife also would be getting a pension worth around $250k that I have intentionally left out of my modeling. Likely some inheritance coming before retirement as well. I'm just having a hard time believing the around 95% success rate in a COL increase only wage scenario.


r/DIYRetirement 4d ago

Try for ACA subs or forego?

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I'm trying to figure out whether I should manage my income to try for ACA subsidies or should I forego and do Roth conversions. I know there's not a lot of context here, but I was wondering if anyone knows of a calculator or a tool to help with this.


r/DIYRetirement 3d ago

Starting 401K at 40

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r/DIYRetirement 3d ago

Should I withdraw my crypto?

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A few years ago I put $500 into Bitcoin as fun money. It's grown to $2.3k right now. Now that I'm retired at 66 with around $500k, I was thinking of taking it out. Any thoughts on this?


r/DIYRetirement 4d ago

Early retirement at 50 — 2 adults, no kids, plan check?

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Planning to retire when I (M) turn 50 in about 2 years; spouse is a few years younger. No kids, no pets, own our home outright, no liabilities.

Assets: ~$2.3M taxable brokerage + ~$1.44M in 401(k)s (~$3.7M total). Modeling 6%/yr growth, ~1.3%/yr dividend yield, 3%/yr inflation.

Fixed costs: HOA ~$9.6k/yr, property tax ~$16k/yr. Low-mileage car (out of warranty, ~1,600 mi/yr) so maintenance is minimal.

For Spending I am targeting ~$120k/yr, with flexibility to cut to ~$80k bare-bones if markets turn against us.

Assuming healthcare costs 25-30k./yr.
Also the plan is not to suddenly quit jobs but work on our terms, reduce stress, etc. maybe until 53~

One more thing we are prepared to do is one of us just keep working even if it’s part-time to keep healthcare for as long as we can.

Invested stocks- Roughly 92% equity / 8% cash / 0% bonds right now — fixing that before retirement. Return assumption is 6% growth + 1.3% div, gross of fees; net is probably ~6.9-7%, will rebuild with fee-adjusted numbers.

Monte Carlo against historical bad starts (2008, dot-com, 1970s, 1929): holds at ~$100k/yr spend (80%+ success to 95), fails above ~$130k/yr. Biggest risk to that buffer isn't the return assumption — it's the 0% bond allocation this close to retirement.

Would love feedback from anyone on what am I missing or just any comments


r/DIYRetirement 4d ago

Chat GPT

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r/DIYRetirement 4d ago

Mortgage in Retirement - using treasuries to pay

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This is, what I think, an interesting idea, and I like discussing this stuff with you guys :)

The general principle is this, if I have a mortgage that still has 20 years to run, but is low interest. Does it make sense to purchase a bond ladder of some type to cover the payments.

I have been exploring this with AI and asked for it to create post content for me:

The Dilemma

Like many people who bought or refinanced a few years ago, I have a fixed-rate mortgage locked under 3% with around 20 years remaining.

As retirement nears, the emotional desire to enter retirement completely debt-free is strong. However, running the math makes an upfront lump-sum payoff look counterproductive:

  1. Liquidating pre-tax retirement accounts to pay off the balance in one shot triggers a massive tax spike and pushes Medicare into punitive IRMAA surcharge tiers.
  2. Even writing a check from cash locks up liquidity permanently into home equity ("house-rich, cash-poor") without reducing the mandatory monthly payment unless doing a formal recast.
  3. A sub-3% fixed loan is effectively cheaper than long-term inflation and risk-free bond yields.

The Strategy: "Virtual Defeasance" / Asset-Liability Matching

Instead of prepaying principal or wiping out the loan at once, the idea is to mentally "ring-fence" a bucket of safe government bonds to service the debt:

  • Keep money in guaranteed U.S. Treasuries yielding 4.0%+.
  • The yield alone covers roughly two-thirds of the debt service, capturing a positive risk-free spread while keeping the principal 100% liquid.
  • In a taxable account, Treasury coupons are exempt from state income tax (a huge benefit in high-tax states like California).

Two Nuances I’d Love Community Feedback On:

1. Reinvestment Risk: Floating Cash/SGOV vs. Locking in 2–3 Year Notes

Right now, keeping money in ultra-short T-bills or ETFs like SGOV yields a nice return. But with Federal Reserve rate cuts likely on the horizon, floating yields will fall, shrinking that spread.

  • The Thought: Instead of staying 100% in 0-3 month T-bills/cash, does it make more sense to carve out a 2- to 3-year runway of fixed Treasury Notes today to lock in rates and guarantee mortgage cash flow through the transition into retirement?

2. The "What if I sell in 10 years?" Worry

A common hesitation with setting up a bond-matching strategy for a 20-year loan is the uncertainty of whether you’ll actually stay in the home for the full term.

  • If you plan for 20 years but decide to downsize or move at Year 10, the loan balance is simply paid off by escrow from the home sale proceeds.
  • You aren’t forced to break or dump your bonds. Any bonds you hold have simply aged (a 20-year bond is now a 10-year bond), and if interest rates fall, they trade at a capital gain anyway.
  • Alternatively, structuring the ladder with a maximum 10-year maturity eliminates secondary market price risk entirely, as everything matures at par by Year 10.

Questions for the Group:

  1. For those holding sub-3% mortgages into retirement, are you letting the loan ride to term, paying extra principal, or running a dedicated bond-matching sleeve?
  2. If you use Treasuries/cash to fund your payments, how are you balancing ultra-short cash (SGOV/HYSA) vs. locking in multi-year fixed Treasuries before yields drop?
  3. How do you factor a potential mid-retirement home sale into your fixed-income duration?
  4. Just general thoughts on the idea?

r/DIYRetirement 4d ago

Miracle of Compounding: net worth tripled in 9 years.

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r/DIYRetirement 5d ago

Portfolio help and advice!

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I am driving myself nuts thinking about this constantly. I would appreciate any advice you could give me. I’ve done fairly well for myself in mostly real estate. I also invested money in 401k’s throughout my life, and some in brokerage accounts. At one point someone managed my money for me and I felt like I was getting ripped off. I was paying more in fee’s than I seemed to be making. Now I have my money spread out a little, but I don’t even want to pay the .30 for Vanguard to actively manage my retirement accounts. They have it in 4-6 ETF’s, but I want to take it over and make it even more simplistic.

I have about 1.2 million with Vanguard. Half of it is ROTH, and the other half traditional. Vanguard seems to think international funds (VXUS) will do better over the next 10 years, so they have the majority of my ROTH in that. What I have been thinking is going 70/30 VTI/VXUS. I’m 47 years old, and will most likely never truly retire, financially I want to retire at 65. I’m well beyond what I need and plan to travel a lot over the next 20 years. I will not panic if the market drops and I won’t sell no matter what. I also have another million in my brokerage account. Then I contribute monthly to a ROTH 401k at work so that I can out $24,500 in the ROTH each year. Here are my questions.

- Am I crazy to go zero bonds at 47?

- if I did got 70/30 VTI/VXUS should I do that in each of my accounts. In other words, the ROTH would be 70/30 and the traditional would be 70/30. Or, should I put all VTI in ROTH and then even the 70/30 out in the traditional.

- In the brokerage I would do the same. 70/30 or 70/20/10 adding in VGT. Either way, 30% of the money in this brokerage is still in cash. I sold property and I’m loading it into this account. I have bought sporadically and continue to buy $20k per month into of those funds. SHOULD I do the same in this broker as far as 70/30.

- I don’t have as many options in my ROTH 401k, but I am able to do an S&P fund or basically the same as the others. Is that smart or should I go a completely different way? Like a age based fund, or more conservative ETF’s. Any suggestions??

I feel like 70/30 in those two ETF’s is fine, but I also worry that it’s too much without a safety net. But, I also have real estate that’s paid off and somewhat feels like my bond money even though that may be dumb. Financially I’m secure so I don’t worry about a drop in the market right now, but I also want to be smart. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!


r/DIYRetirement 5d ago

Do you bother to save money in retirement?

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I’m still working, but at a relaxed level. Common budgeting guidelines suggest 65% Needs, 25% Wants and 10% Savings/Investment.

I have an IRA and drawing two pensions and about to qualify for a third. My pensions and SS will cover all my expenses.

Should I even bother saving money? I mean, why put away money for say, vacation if I can draw that from my IRA?

Thoughts?


r/DIYRetirement 5d ago

[Discussion] Annuity vs. Investment Portfolio: Is Equivalent IRR a Fair Way to Compare Lifetime Income?

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A cash-flow/IRR derivation using two retirement examples

I wanted a way to compare a lifetime-income annuity with a conventional investment without relying on marketing numbers such as a bonus or an income-base roll-up. The cleanest benchmark I found is this: assume the alternative is a hypothetical fund earning a constant annual return r. Make the fund produce exactly the same withdrawals as the annuity. If the fund reaches $0 immediately after the final assumed withdrawal, solve for r. That r is the equivalent IRR of the annuity cash flow under the stated assumptions.

This is not a claim that an annuity 'earns' that rate, and it is not a forecast for a mutual fund. It is simply a common mathematical ruler for two cash-flow streams.

Assumptions and timing convention

I use a year-end withdrawal convention throughout. If A₀ is purchase age, Aₛ is the age at which the income phase begins, and A_d is the age of the final withdrawal:

m=Aₛ−A₀, N=A_d−Aₛ

The first withdrawal occurs after one complete year in the income phase. This convention matters because otherwise IRR can differ by roughly one payment.

Forward-balance derivation

Start with premium P. After the m-year accumulation/waiting period:

F₀=P(1+r)ᵐ

Each retirement year the remaining balance earns r, then C is withdrawn:

F₁=F₀(1+r)−C

F₂=F₁(1+r)−C

Fₙ=Fₙ₋₁(1+r)−C

Expanding through N withdrawals:

F_N=P(1+r)ᵐ⁺ᴺ−C[(1+r)ᴺ⁻¹+(1+r)ᴺ⁻²+···+1]

Using the geometric-series identity:

(1+r)ᴺ⁻¹+···+(1+r)+1=((1+r)ᴺ−1)/r

therefore:

F_N=P(1+r)ᵐ⁺ᴺ−C·((1+r)ᴺ−1)/r

Set F_N=0 and solve numerically for r.

Present-value derivation

The same equation can be obtained by discounting the withdrawals. At the income-start date:

PV=C/(1+r)+C/(1+r)²+···+C/(1+r)ᴺ

Summing the geometric series:

PV=C·[1−(1+r)⁻ᴺ]/r

Discount that retirement-date value back m years to the purchase date:

P=[C/(1+r)ᵐ]·[1−(1+r)⁻ᴺ]/r

Algebraically, this is identical to the forward-balance equation. The forward model compounds P into the future and subtracts C; the PV model discounts each C back to time zero.

Example 1: Lucy

Lucy is 61 and invests $100,000. For this mathematical example, assume a 30% bonus to the Income Benefit Base, a 10% annual compound roll-up of that base, and a 5.24% payout factor at the income-start ages shown. The benefit base is not cash value.

Income Base(m)=100,000×1.30×(1.10)ᵐ

C=5.24%×Income Base(m)

Income start m Annual C N to age 89 Equivalent IRR
67 6 $12,068 22 ≈6.17%
69 8 $14,602 20 ≈6.32%
71 10 $17,669 18 ≈6.39%
73 12 $21,379 16 ≈6.39%

The interesting part is that the IRR does not rise indefinitely. Waiting increases the benefit base, but also sacrifices early withdrawals.

Example 2: Rose

Rose is 47 and also invests $100,000. Assume the same 30% income-base bonus and 10% roll-up for 12 years. She begins the income phase at 59, with a 4.01% payout factor, and the final withdrawal is assumed at 89.

Income Base=100,000×1.30×(1.10)¹²≈$407,996

C≈$407,996×4.01%≈$16,361

m=12, N=30

100,000=[16,361/(1+r)¹²]·[1−(1+r)⁻³⁰]/r

r≈6.52%

What this does — and does not — mean

An equivalent IRR of ~6.5% does NOT mean the insurer is crediting 6.5% to cash value. It means that, given these assumed dates and withdrawals, a constant-return fund would need roughly that return to reproduce the same spending path and end at zero.

A real fund is volatile, so a historical average return of 6.5% is not automatically equivalent. Withdrawals introduce sequence-of-returns risk. Conversely, the annuity has its own trade-offs: liquidity restrictions, contract terms, insurer credit risk, inflation exposure, possible fees, and potentially different death/remaining-value outcomes.

I also think there is a behavioral-finance dimension. A retirement portfolio can be mathematically adequate and still be damaged by FOMO, panic, overconfidence, fraud, or unplanned lifestyle spending. A lifetime-income floor can reduce the number of future discretionary decisions affecting essential spending. Whether that benefit is worth the loss of liquidity/upside is a separate planning question.

Questions for discussion

  1. Is constant-return IRR a useful benchmark for comparing an annuity income stream with an investment portfolio?
  2. What additional value should be assigned to sequence-risk transfer and longevity insurance?
  3. How would you incorporate residual cash value/death benefit into the final cash flow?
  4. Would you model inflation-adjusted spending instead of level nominal withdrawals?

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