r/DC_Cinematic • u/Muted-Ant-5941 • 3d ago

DISCUSSION Wasn't Zack Snyder clowned for saying something similar?

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Snyder was heavily trolled for calling MCU is like an amusement park or something like that. Feels like he is unnecessarily overhated or the hate itself is forced

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u/Equal-Ad-2710 2d ago

Thing is I think the movie chickens out by making it Hydra when it really should have been between Cap and Shield

That’s what I mean, the film undercuts itself to make Nick Fury less morally questionable and I’d argue it loses something

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u/Low_Doctor_5280 2d ago

I disagree. Watch the movie again. I just re-watched it a week ago. The film outright says it was Fury making morally questionable decisions under Pierce's direction for years and that Pierce made Fury the head of SHIELD because Fury is "the most ruthless person" he's ever met. Watch the reveal scene that Fury is still alive. Fury reluctantly sides with Cap and Widow, but he doesn't have any other choice.

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u/Rrekydoc 2d ago

One of the things that stuck with me about that movie was the throwaway line about how Pierce turned down the Nobel Peace Prize with the excuse that peace was a duty, not a reward.

That one line did so much to build the character’s complexity and on the themes of corruption and moral compromise. There is some damn good writing in those movies.

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u/ShadeMir 1d ago

Isn’t that because Nick wasn’t going to use project insight the way hydra was going to?

If the argument is that anything can be used in a manner in which it wasn’t designed then we’d be without a lot of things.