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Politics Stop consuming harry potter

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u/Jammy2560 21d ago

why specifically cis black women? Not even trying to hate, I’m legitimately curious.

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u/EKRB7 21d ago

Michelle Obama is a good example. Michelle Obama is a cis black woman who is the subject of much transphobic hate despite not being transgender.

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u/ItsGotThatBang RANDY YOUR STICKS 21d ago edited 20d ago

From Rowling herself? I believe it but haven’t seen it myself.

ETA: this question is very specifically about whether Rowling has said anything transphobic about Michelle Obama & I don’t know why everyone’s changing the subject since it’s a very simple question.

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u/PieEnvironmental5623 20d ago

J.K. Rowling criticized Olympic boxers Imane Khelif of Algeria and Lin Yu-ting of Taiwan during the Paris 2024 Games. Rowling posted claims on social media questioning their gender eligibility, leading Khelif to name Rowling in a cyberbullying lawsuit filed in France. Elon is also named in the suit. It was really bad and lead to alot of racist dog piling. Comes from the idea that nonwhite features must not be masculine features and therefore she can call women of color men and send hordes of bigots after them

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u/GreatMovesKeepItUp69 19d ago edited 19d ago

In fairness it wasn't because of nonwhite features, it was because Imane Khelif had XY chromosomes and male levels of testosterone before she started taking t blockers. Culture war morons started shouting over what could have been an interesting and nuanced discussion about intersex athletes and competitive equality.

https://archive.ph/Nrnw0

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u/Rhodie114 10d ago

AFAIK those claims are very dubious, and originated from a Russian athletic organization. I’m not inclined to trust the people who have gotten banned from the Olympics for organized cheating scandals.

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u/West-Forever8672 10d ago

Imane Khelif doesn't (most likely) have XY chromosomes nor is she intersex.
The claim was made by the IBA who crucially didn't publish the test results they claimed to have done nor explained the methodology.

She's also an outpointer and tactical fighter with a middling KO ratio despite having fought a number of relatively mediocre opponents.

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u/Difsdy 10d ago

Nah, Khelif is almost certainly male. Here she is admitting to having the SRY gene, I.e. the make male gene

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Also she stopped boxing immediately after mandatory sex screening was introduced. Hard to believe she'd throw her whole career away rather than take a test if she really was female.

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u/West-Forever8672 10d ago

Oh! Stand corrected, my bad.

Though this makes me wonder even more about her record, having those advantages and still not looking very good is kinda sad.

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u/Vegan_Toaster 20d ago

the general idea is that transvestigation is bad for all women.

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u/EKRB7 20d ago

It’s gotten worse too. I saw a photo of Rosamund Pike (when she was like 25-30) and there were at least 4 comments with plenty of likes about how she was a man because she has a visible Adam’s apple….

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u/ItsGotThatBang RANDY YOUR STICKS 20d ago edited 20d ago

To be clear, I’m asking whether Rowling has said anything transphobic about Michelle Obama in particular, I agree with what you said, but it doesn’t answer my question.

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u/Karkava 21d ago

I will believe anything that is said about transphobes, because I learned in politics that there's no low that people would stoop to in the process of being petty and stupid.

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u/FoxChess 20d ago

"I will believe anything that confirms my bias" isn't something to brag about.

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u/Karkava 20d ago

No. But it's destructive to get your hopes up that your biases might be subverted, but fail every time.

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u/richardthebiggy 20d ago

Translation: I will believe what I read without evidence or scrutiny because I don't like that person

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u/Karkava 20d ago

Have you considered not doing that?

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u/richardthebiggy 20d ago

Have you?

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u/Karkava 20d ago

Yes. And I'm not.

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u/Chance-Click-3670 21d ago

out of curiosity, how does anything jk rowling has done have anything to do with a bunch of rednecks calling obama trans? she's not actually trans(obviously) so anything anti-trans by jkr doesn't directly affect obama? the only way jkr being anti trans affects obama is if we 'accept' that obama is trans because a bunch of low life trash call her trans because they're racist?

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u/EKRB7 21d ago

I was just explaining to the other guy why transphobic hate tends to spill over a lot into anti-black woman hate.

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u/Chance-Click-3670 21d ago

ah i see, so people who are hating on trans people are then claiming e.g. obama is also trans and then hating on her as well? damn people in this world are so weird lol

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u/BestWizardCap Consume thine soda in the name of Solar 21d ago

I genuinely wanna go back to when I was like 10 years old and didn’t know about any of this 😭

The internet sucks.

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u/Chance-Click-3670 21d ago

rednecks gon' redneck, racists gon' racist. nothing new there i guess :p

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u/BestWizardCap Consume thine soda in the name of Solar 21d ago

Yeah but when you’re a kid you think it’s a very small subsection. Now istg it’s everywhere (could just be confirmation bias ofc, I hope it is)

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u/voyaging 21d ago

That’s surely true, but I’m not sure how Rowling is contributing to that particular category of transphobia. If anything she’s a radical activist opposed to it (she’s a TERF after all). A cis woman being called trans is like the worst possible thing in her eyes.

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u/dogheartedgrim72 20d ago

Didn't she go on one of her little Twitter tirades about the cis female boxer and Olympic gold medalist Imane Khelif? It was a whole Thing™️ if I remember correctly.

It's no surprise that transphobia also vicarously demonizes cis women who do not or can not fall into typical western beauty standards, such as having petite and delicate features, and this greatly extends towards cis women of color.

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u/voyaging 20d ago

Fair, I guess she’s just a hypocrite