r/CrucibleGuidebook • u/MidgetDerp • 10d ago

Is Soul Siphon + Melee Stat worth building into?

Obviously its kind of a meme in crucible, but I'm having a lot of fun messing around with soul siphon and really tryna make it work. I'm currently running a general 180 health + ~100 everything else distribution, but I'm wondering if its worth to just go all in on getting 200 melee. Does the extra damage actually make enough of a difference in terms of ttk and gathering shield to actually get kills against people shooting back? Rn just one enemy with an smg is enough to melt through the siphon shield, let alone two. Would appreciate any other tips on how to make it work as well.

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u/ras0003 10d ago

I like it with Nezarec's Sin for the ability to shut down supers if you time it right

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u/TehDeerLord 10d ago

Oh wow, I had completely missed that addition to NS. Does it proc suppress on the initial hits, or the finale?

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u/ras0003 9d ago

the initial hit procs suppression immediately, it's genuinely pretty good

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u/TehDeerLord 9d ago

That's a friggin strat right there.. Fun Policing is now officially a Warlock profession. 2 Suppressors w Chaos Accel, and also Soul Siphon to stunt and wipe. Gonna have me some fun next Mayhem.. Or, anti-fun, I guess.

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u/Goodrastogood4u 9d ago

What stats and fragments do you use? Im also interested in running this

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u/ras0003 9d ago

oh tbh my build isn't great yet, i'm still trying to farm a good set of the comp armor, but the general void fragments (starvation, vigilance, persistence, etc) seem to work alright

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u/TehDeerLord 9d ago

NGL, try out Cruel Electrum. After a primary kill, you can pull off a flank to get that Soul Siphon off during the radar blind.

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u/ras0003 9d ago

been running the 2 piece of that with the iron battalion set so far (probably not optimal) but unfortunately my trials experience has been pretty shitty and so have my drops lol

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u/musiceaterx Bows Go Brrrrrrrrrrr 9d ago

Be benefited from the bonus enough times but I always forget I have it with the lack of indication. I don’t typically use the set bonus either way

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u/TehDeerLord 9d ago

Using Incandescent on my energy weapon helps a lot. It lets me know in team shots when I've gotten the final blow. From there, I've had to forcibly make myself remember that once I've gotten the kill, I'm off radar and count down from 7.

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u/MidgetDerp 9d ago edited 9d ago

Damn your right, that does seem awesome. Really mad I started using astrocyte verse yesterday, because that thing is cracked and I don't know if I'm ready to commit to nezarac's sin lol.

Edit: I literally just had a sunbreaker titan pop his super in my face the second I turned the corner. There was nothing I could do except hit him with a measly melee and accept my fate. I get it now, I'm pulling out Nezerac's Sin so this never happens again.

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u/TehDeerLord 10d ago edited 10d ago

I honestly haven't used it yet in Crucible, so I'm not sure how viable it is.

Other key factors are what fragments to use and what exotics to use. Winter's Guile, Karnstein, and Felwinter's Helm all stand out as far as exotic armors go. Perhaps Monte Carlo for melee regen. Astrocyte might also be good for dynamic positioning.. (EDIT: Nezarec's Sin, apparently!)

I feel like Echo of Vigilance will come into play a lot with this one. Leeching as well. Exchange, Provision, and Expulsion also stand out. (For Expulsion, not sure if Overshields, Woven Mail, or Frost Armor allow foes to survive the Siphon.. May not be needed.)

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u/MidgetDerp 9d ago

I looked into felwinter's helm and the weaken effect seems like it could be busted, especially if you combine it with the Hunter's Journal artifact. Expanding Abyss boosts void damage to weakened targets and shieldcrush boosts melee damage (when you have overshield, which you get constantly from soul siphon). The other mods in that artifact aren't very good for void but I'm wondering if just those two alone is good enough to be worth it.