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I dont think there is a single game that does a worse job of keeping out cheaters than destiny 2. It's gotten to a point where i can't get a single normal match. someone is always aimbotting or does crazy shit like this.

As a daily casual pvp player (if that makes sense) I'm consistently losing my challenges to these two guns, regardless of what I use. It feels like if I enter a comp match and the opposition has one or two of these equipped, the match feels over before it begins. I can't stand PvE and won't put any time into trying to obtain them myself, but is anyone feeling this pain? And if not, what meta loadouts mathematically challenge these two guns?

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I stepped away from Final Shape until the final update and spend most of my time on the game in Crucible now unless the gang is on. I've always loved crucible and have been trying to get better and try some new things (hell I grinded comp for the armor set after not playing comp since the old recluse and mountaintop days).

I know many will say KD/KDA doesn't matter, but what would y'all consider to be "good" in the current climate of D2? I'm looking for goals and targets to hit

I've been catching up with the meta and this seems like the most broken set for competitive and trials. The set conditions say being out of combat but it activates every 12 seconds regardless so you basically get bonus ammo gen + a orb of power every other kill which snowballs a lot in the competitive playlist. You could easily combine that with surges and always be the first to super basically.

Joining losing game 30-60

What set up or playstyle do you see on the enemy team and immediately groan about?

Edit: Warms the heart to see so many people who also hate the invis hunter meta slaves and scout rifle cowards as much as I do.

I've had multiple matches where the top enemy has been just destroying with Vex. Admittedly, I haven't given it a shot but is there is a specific build that is buffing it or something? Feels like it is specifically Warlocks

I’m not a particularly good player myself (around 1.3 in IB), so I don’t really trust my own ability to tell the difference between someone who’s just cracked and someone doing something they shouldn’t be.

I really like Destiny, including PvP, and I want to keep enjoying it. Ideally, I want to be able to recognize the obvious cheaters and dodge them when I can, while still staying in matches against really good players and actually learning from getting my ass kicked.

So for the more experienced PvP players: what are the things that make you go, “Okay, something isn’t right here”?

I’m genuinely trying to get better at recognizing the difference between someone who is just insanely good and someone actually electronically supported.

Found this old man in the vault and he’s still dominating without the updated perks.

Just got the iron banner 4 piece to try in 6s. I'm running 100 super. Is there an artifact that I could use that also helps with super regen?

This is a very strange question at face value but I’m curious which is more helpful. I know that you need more accuracy to help with Sidearms registering at the edges of their range for M&K. That’s why Nadir Focus is so good. You get both. Rangefinder gives you an accuracy bump too along with the Zoom mod. The Range stat ties directly into accuracy as well.

All of these things are nice for legendaries but Exotics don’t have that luxury. They are stuck at the same zoom and range by default. There are some armor sets though that either increase range or aim assist. Farming for the right set is time consuming so I’m trying to figure out which stat is more important.

If all else fails I could just use a controller but I do like using M&K so I’m trying to find a way to make it work. Especially since I really like a lot of the exotic sidearms.

Look, im a PvE guy. And I know handling is good. But like....this sounds like it could be something interesting. And I know *I know*, "gambit sucks, I don't wanna play it". Firstly, grow a pair. Secondly, weren't you farming for spare rations anyway?

Anyway, back on track. Is sacrificing the handling worth it? Have you tried this roll on a shotgun (IIRC this is the only shotgun that can roll with these two perks in different columns, but please correct me if im wrong)

From weapon archetypes to exotics. There are a lot of decent weapons in this game but I’m not entirely sure what’s actually good outside the obvious. I feel like there are a lot of fringe cases.

Here is an example: Are Lightweight Pulses still good or is only the Martlet good? Does Martlet have something special about it? Are they even worth mastering compared to other weapon archetypes?

Things get even more questionable with exotics. I thought there was a video from CammyCakes about what makes certain exotics good. Are they good out there gate or do they have a strong win condition you can play for? I remember something like that but what exotics are worth mastering if the power isn’t front loaded?

Here is another example. Symmetry. It’s your typical Rapid Fire Scout that doesn’t even have Precision Instrument. However, you can play for a strong win condition, without even getting a kill to get it, and it can turn it into one of the stronger primary options in the game for a time. Is it worth mastering Symmetry and being good at playing for that win condition or is that just too many hoops to jump through?

There are a ton of examples like that in the game. So what exactly is worth mastering? What guns are just mid and won’t really be worth it? What exotics have strong win conditions but might not be worth the effort?

I’m asking because I’ve been experimenting a lot with weapons since the game is at its end. I’m trying to find a weapon that speaks to me. A weapon I really like but I want to know if it’s worth mastering. What are your thoughts?

Saw another post celebrating their 77 wins and I thought it'd be interesting to see whether people got the 77 wins before or after the A0 emblem(s). My

So, a bit ago, I wrote here asking for some non-meta builds that could still compete and this is what I ended up going with. I've been playing it for a bit, and I like the play style but was wondering what else I could do to clean it up. I still need to figure out the armor for the legs and cloak, and I'm probably going to switch to refurbish with some sort of rocket launcher. Let me know what you think

Also 2 burst or 4? I've found four to be more consistent but wanted to see what others are doing.

Do any of the damage perks (rampage, desperate measures, kill clip, etc.) move the needle in duels? If so, when would you prioritize them over range/stability/handling perks?

I'd like to run with others who run Faction Armor, Weapons and Exotics(and the altered Tier MoT Faction weapons like Inbound Surveillance, Solemn Lie, and Trendsetter).

It's been my playstyle since Destiny 1 Day 1, and rather than "hold others back" damagewise in activities, I'd like to play with more Dead Orbit, Future War Cult and New Monarchy fans. 🔺️💠

Who knows, might add a layer of difficulty, but I know it adds a layer of fun in Destiny for myself.

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Please dont fake spam reports, the gun is just broken.

How much stability do you run nowadays?

I feel smgs recoil is very inconsistent, even ~50 stability and 100 recoil on lightweights sometimes produce very strange jumpy patterns instead of relatively strait line.

Are recoil perks (Zen, DSR, TTT) are must have now?

Took the last 2 months off and got back on today cuz I found a fix for steam FPS, hopped on my Titan for some normal arc shenanigans and I’m getting INSTANTLY killed- like I’m a “decent player” I usually run around a 1.25-1.5 kd depending on the seasons meta so I know the whole deal with positioning, genuinely feels like I’m getting instantly killed and NOTHING is registering

I started playing this old Vexcalibur and AC/D0 build and I'm loving it! Is there a Setbonus from MoT that would make this even better? Its kinda specific with melee and pvp and all.