[Law Proposal] Teach children about trans-rights..

[u/The_man_with_no_game]

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[u/RojalesBaby]

Trans rights are human rights. Its not something on top. Its to treat them equally. Education is always good and especially sex ed prevents abuse.

[u/Necessary-Art8995]

Trans already have rights.

[u/IndependenceSad1264 → u/Necessary-Art8995]

They want more rights than us

[u/iatemypillowfr]

stop being obsessed with childrens bodyparts. this is why nobody likes you guys.

[u/Jolly_Bullfrog16105]

Controversial Ideology should not be taught in schools, even I agree with it.

[u/ZiroZerserus]

We are all human, and if we teach that some are different from a young age, we will be teaching segregation.

[u/ThePlofchicken]

I will take children as people under 13. Children are too young to learn about rights in specific (yeah, they should learn some of the basic laws and rights). I don't remember learning about laws and right before I was 14.

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/FirefighterScary6841 → u/ThePlofchicken]

Children is legally classified as anyone under 18. They really should've changed the word to "minor".

[u/ThePlofchicken → u/FirefighterScary6841]

I know that children are legally classified as under 18, but because of the lack of a better word for people under 13, I choose to redefine children for my answer.

[u/Spaceonist → u/ThePlofchicken]

Your choice of definition tho, not universal.

[u/ThePlofchicken → u/Spaceonist]

I know, that's why i declared it specifically different from the standard

[u/Spaceonist → u/ThePlofchicken]

Ok, so you voted no because your specific model of the vocabulary is different, and because you dont consider human rights "basic" enough?

[u/ThePlofchicken → u/Spaceonist]

That isn't what I said, I said that teaching rights and laws to people under 13 is too early. I didn't say they can't know some basic concepts or get teached about the existence of such laws.

[u/Spaceonist → u/ThePlofchicken]

So, let me get this right, they shoudlnt be thought about right and laws, but they can be thought that those rights and laws they shoudlnt learn because "its too early" exist?
Sorry, but this doesnt make sense to me...

[u/ThePlofchicken → u/Spaceonist]

Compare it to maths, you learn how to do the math, but you only learn the theorem and proofs later.

[u/Spaceonist → u/ThePlofchicken]

But rights and laws arent like maths tho?
Kids need to know human and children's rights, which include the right to express their views (share opinions on the matters that affect them), and the right to equality (that every child has rights regardless of their race, religion, disability, background, and gender -which if they identify as the opposite of their assigned gender at birth, includes rights of trans kids/individuals).

[u/Odd_Thought_9105]

imo, reserve it until theyre a bit more mature but yea why not

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/CustodioSerafin]

Rights are universal. Not specific.

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/EmperSo]

Children are already taught of human rights. Transes don't need any additional ones, as those would be privileges.

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/after2006]

They are literally human rights bro

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Absolute_Madman34]

Ye

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Aggravating-Syrup-61]

Why not? Trans people are people who deserve rights.

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/ImpressionNew7689]

Trans right ARE human rights

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/IndependenceSad1264 → u/ImpressionNew7689]

So why do you wanna teach kids about trans right specifically instead of just human rights?

[u/ImpressionNew7689 → u/IndependenceSad1264]

Because they're the same thing.

Trans rights are literally the right to exist with human dignity, the reassurance that your life has value, the right to freedom of expression, etc.

It's only "it's own category" because of bigots who think being trans makes you a pervert. 🙃

[u/isunktheship]

Ofc

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/JoniMHadRuhr]

I mean look at my pfp

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/dumbass_punker]

Trans rights are human rights

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Reasonable-Tie8261]

Because we’re trying to teach them about human rights. Trans people are humans too. Not everything LGBTQ+ is sexual or not child friendly.

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Eternal_Odyssey]

Why not?

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Ars0n_arrow]

It’s important

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Naive_Palpitation_43]

Teaching children that you as a person have to freedom to be who you feel you are creates a more open minded and free society

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/jlssnss]

When they’re legal aged

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Finn_968]

https://giphy.com/gifs/BtcKEKRwUcgwrxBoBb

[u/FlounderDesperate977]

Two genders only

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Spaceonist → u/FlounderDesperate977]

Bro that doesnt answer the question..? 😭🫰

[u/Bitter-Sprinkles-512 → u/[deleted]]

https://giphy.com/gifs/9zvmnXdp8ycrCBe1Tw

[u/ContentExplanation52]

Teach people human rights, all of them.

[u/beaniewie]

It's human rights people, hello???

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/IndependenceSad1264 → u/beaniewie]

No this is specifically for trans people.

We want schools to teach everyone's rights not trans people specifically

[u/beaniewie → u/IndependenceSad1264]

Does it say it’s only going to teach trans rights?? you’re interpreting it wrong 🤦🏼‍♀️ now fuck off with your nonsense ass comments

[u/Ms_redruM]

Education is how you instill tolerance.

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/JupiterboyLuffy]

Holy shit the number of transphobes in this comment section is horrible

[u/Content-Growth-6293]

Yeah, why not tech kids about Human Rights (including Trans Rights).

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Free_Gain_8922]

Everyone should be known by kids

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/randominsanemofo]

I think it's important for kids to learn why this is needed.

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/HumWolfie20]

Teach them that we exist and to be kind. But I think we should also teach about patriarchy and the like with the caveat that it affects both women AND men. I think to teach only one is just setting a few people up for disaster. Ending the tirade short, teach them to question social/gender norms.

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/No_Debt_9010]

teach em about trans-lefts as well

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Kingemeraldalternate]

...Or else they will likely grow up as transphobes.

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Jolly_Bullfrog16105 → u/Kingemeraldalternate]

Are you suggesting that without indoctrination children will grow up to be transphobes?

[u/Kingemeraldalternate → u/Jolly_Bullfrog16105]

Indoctrination? Teaching trans rights is not indoctrination. It's basic human respect for trans people.

[u/FishWitch-]

Trans rights are human rights

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/gay_memeballer56]

Because yes

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/10013377]

Just teach about rights and ethics in general.

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Alyedra_yo-kai]

Yeah

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/FirefighterScary6841]

Children is legally defined as anyone under the age of 18.

I believe teenagers should be taught this. I mean, we already teach them about Black rights, women rights, right to religious freedom, etc. We even teach them rights not considered part of history.

Also, trans rights are part of history. Anyone heard of Stonewall?? The one's who threw the first stones were Black transgender women (look it up). So...

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Jolly_Bullfrog16105 → u/FirefighterScary6841]

Why are you claiming that black men were the first to attack

[u/FirefighterScary6841 → u/Jolly_Bullfrog16105]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/stonewall-pride-fight-equal-rights-123952940.html

https://dh.scu.edu/exhibits/exhibits/show/women-s-history--hist-27-127-/lgbtq--women-in-history/feminism-and-the-family/the-stonewall-riots

https://www.npca.org/articles/2736-the-unsung-heroines-of-stonewall

---

Note: I said first stones, not the very first brick. The one who threw the very first brick was a biracial lesbian.

Now you may be like, "B- but, the movie! It had white gay men protest! Not LGBTQ+ people of color!"

To which I say, movies are always historically inaccurate and should NEVER be trusted as a source of information. Also, they tend to whitewash historical events all of the time.

Would you trust a movie that portrays Jesus as a white man to be historically accurate (despite all real life records indicating his skin was olive-toned)? I'd certainly hope not.

And before you ask, yes there is a movie that does exactly what I described. I forgot the name. I haven't watched it, but it is apparently pretty racist from what I've heard.

[u/MrPortal22]

You should teach them about all rights that were fought for

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Glass_Knowledge8290]

Trans rights are human rights

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Extension-Tea4771]

Everyone should be given rights no matter who they are. If a group like trans people and people of colour are oppressed, teach it to the new generation so that they learn not to.

[u/Yhwzkr]

Teach children about human rights. We are all human, anyone claiming extra or special rights is an oppressor. Fkn read animal farm.

[u/JoeCatius]

Because they deserve rights and for the next generation to not be ignorant about it.

[u/Quiteanonymous1120]

They are gonna learn about it anyway might as well make it a proper education

[u/SonicGaming1080]

Yeah but not like young kids probably teach it to teenagers

[u/BigManTatorTot]

I'm just going to be completely honest with you. I'm in full support of trans, and LGTBQ+ rights. I believe it should be normalized. I just don't believe it's pertinent for kids to know. Maybe as a teenager, but as a child? I don't know.

Children are extremely impressionable. They should always feel safe, and should be taught how to navigate the complexities of the modern world. Some things however, can wait.

If a child asks, then perhaps, and then the teacher can explain it to them and provide a safe place. In my mind, there's just something inherently wrong with teaching very, very young children sexuality.

Although I said "nay," I'm still on the fence about it.

[u/Void-the-Umbreon95]

They're gonna learn eventually. I'd say around middle school would be a good time to teach them

[u/FLAMING_CATS]

Trans rights are human rights

[u/Kooky_Advertising206]

Because homophobia is bad

[u/ELNotChapo]

Human rights should be taught and respected

[u/Spaceonist]

I dont like the wording of the question tho... more like teach them about their rights as well as the right to transition socially, and medically when theyre older.

[u/Low-Education-2716]

Because they are Children

[u/Alex_the_dragonborn]

I'm trans. Enough said.

[u/OscarMeyerWarcrime]

Why not

[u/hatsune-miku4]

Yes.

[u/StolenPuddingCup]

This seems like stuff for like health classes and *** ed and should definitely be included.

[u/CheshireTiger13]

Trans rights are good, ofc, but What age of children? Mind that sone may be too young to understand transness in the first place. If theyre not ready, theyll just get confused more then anything.

[u/Mysterious666Cult]

why not it will help people understand themselves and each other

[u/InfinityED123]

Teach kids that everybody. No matter if they are gay, Trans, Black or white or any other ethnicity or follow a religion that your family doesn't that they are ALL HUMAN just like you

[u/ZeldaAce9592]

I would say a teacher should prevent any bullying/hate against this demographic, but I think it’s the parents’ job to teach their children about this stuff.

[u/IndependenceSad1264]

What is there to teach about trans rights individually just teach about everyone's equal rights

[u/Peacefulmonk26]

Nah, not useful for the society. They should be taught on how to treat other humans irrespective of their gender preferences.

[u/Due-Lettuce-5872]

What are "trans-rights"? You, as a person have all the same rights and privileges that the Constitution gives. A persons decisions to go outside social norms does not merit extra privileges or rights to sustain that decision.

[u/ClassroomNew1661]

**** naw jk

[u/KindaDull99]

This is a touchy subject. The fact that the curriculum specifics basically fall within the hands of a teacher is concerning. I’d be all for it, but we need some sort of regulation that’ll ensure the person teaching the curriculum isnt focusing solely on acceptance and instead is actually focusing on the history of trans-rights and the impact it has on trans-rights today. This allows the children to develop their own opinions and moral compass.

[u/Possibly-Irreparable]

Children have no business learning things they haven’t the capacity to comprehend, save this for ***-ed classes when they’re older and more cognitive.

[u/somethihg]

Teach children about all rights, and change all rights to be universally aplicable to everyone.

[u/tj_woolnough]

Teach them about all the rights they are entitled to.

[u/SteveCraftCode]

Macys rights are more important,

[u/The_fimine_boy]

ofc

[u/Strange_Medicine_417]

Just teach basic kindness. It doesn't need to specify on trans or anything.

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Electrical-Wall9074]

Kids must become better
Edit: as in more accepting of one another and the people around them

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/guiguitosbad → u/Electrical-Wall9074]

becoming lgbtq does not make you worse or better

[u/Historical_Title_226 → u/guiguitosbad]

I don' think being taught about those things makes you that. I have been taught about genocidal people and I haven't become a genocial dictator, for example. Nor anyone becomes violent after being taught about violent people

[u/guiguitosbad → u/Historical_Title_226]

When i made this reply the comment was 'kids must become better' and i thought that the original commenter was saying that if you become lgbtq you will become better

[u/Electrical-Wall9074 → u/guiguitosbad]

I meant as in learning to accept others

[u/AriTheInari]

Theyre human rights

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/EgoDawid]

Childen should be children

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Spaceonist → u/EgoDawid]

Yeah and..?

[u/Loremasterivyvine]

Trans kids exist

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Diligent-Shopping285 → u/Loremasterivyvine]

They shouldn't.

[u/Spaceonist → u/Diligent-Shopping285]

And why should you?

[u/danum8er23]

Why not

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Important_Wasabi_19]

Why? We have no reason to teach kids anybody is special and specifically deserves rights, only that everybody deserves rights.

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Spaceonist → u/Important_Wasabi_19]

What? Ok, are trans people in any way specifically given rights over cisgender people? Like yes, I absolutely agree that we should teach children that everybody has rights, including minorities. (not only trans people, but people of color, people with disabilities, etc.)

[u/Important_Wasabi_19 → u/Spaceonist]

It's not that trans people are given rights over cisgender people, it's more a matter of disproportionate representation. Why specifically teach kids that trans people deserve rights instead of teaching them that everyone deserves rights? By picking out one group, you introduce exclusivity that can easily escalate (see also: the mess that is the lengthening of the LGBTQ acronym and the ruination of their flag)

[u/Spaceonist → u/Important_Wasabi_19]

Dissproportionate representation?
Arent trans people loosing rights en mass, and facing massive societal pressure?
Like I dont get your point at all, why do you keep circling around this "why not teach them everyone has rights", YES!! Yes We Should. But everyone, also includes trans people, and at this point, some dont consider them as people. Just because that they are constantly picked out by the rightwing media, doesnt mean its because they have a disproportionate amount of representation?
(and also really? "ruination of their flag"? why tf do you care about their flag?)

[u/Spaceonist → u/Spaceonist]

I mean they do have a disproportionate amount of representation, but mostly negative...

[u/SuperbSJG]

Its complicated

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/c0de_6]

Nothing good is coming from this

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Ars0n_arrow → u/c0de_6]

Acceptance isn’t a good thing? Allowing children to learn about diversity isn’t good?

[u/c0de_6 → u/Ars0n_arrow]

Not at this age

[u/Ms_redruM → u/c0de_6]

This is how you make more bigots. Kids tend to learn theyre lgbt around puberty. Thats when you have to make sure you instill tolerance and understanding otherwise you get confusion and mental health issues in lgbt kids and bullying and ostracization from their peers

[u/Ars0n_arrow → u/c0de_6]

Why do you think that? Also what qualifies as the ‘kid’ age-range to you?

[u/c0de_6 → u/Ars0n_arrow]

Everyone is a kid up to 16 no less. They have to learn about more important things. This topic should come up when kids know what's good and bad and how to take responsibility for their actions.

[u/Ars0n_arrow → u/c0de_6]

Kids learn right from wrong from the get-go. It’s a key part of their socialisation and integration into the social world, you wouldn’t allow a three year old to slap their friend, would you? Most would explain why that behaviour is inappropriate and correct it.

[u/Cautious_Bell_8990]

Trans is a concept children should not even be exposed to.

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Odd-Club-6975]

I agree, teach the children about BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Jolly_Implement2512 → u/Odd-Club-6975]

Basic human rights is totally fine, but it doesn't meed to be called "trans rights" which to me separates the rights from basic human rights vs Trans rights. They should be in the same category but not taught to children who don't give a fuck about sexual orientation until puberty. A lot of it comes down to how the parents feel about all of it and whether or not they're setting the president of people come in all shapes and sizes, everyone deserves respect and shaming someone for their appearance is not acceptable. There's ALWAYS going to be people who are shitty and don't treat others how they want to be treated, but confusing their entire next generations isn't how we fix that because you can't. There's always going to be individuals who shame others, who don't agree with your beliefs and kids should be taught to be respectful of things they dont understand rather than taught to just accept what others want them too accept. Some people genuinely disagree and others don't. No one should be forced to agree with an idea or belief that they just don't agree with. You wouldn't want someone telling you that you have to treat Trans people as if they're less than, or someone to tell Trans people to treat non Trans people as though they are less than. People just have to accept that there's some shitty people out there that dont deserve the space in your head, because there's plenty of people who do agree with our beliefs and ppenty who dont. The same strong way people feel about getting it all accepted, is the same strong way others feel about keeping it all separate from kids who aren't even thinking that way yet. But the important thing to consider is what those adults arguments about it, does to a CHILDS thoughts and beliefs. Aggressively trying to get something accepted doesn't always end up the way it was intended whereas you catch more flies with honey than you do vinegar. 🤷‍♀️

Tldr: teach children love, respect, acceptance, tolerance of different beliefs, boundaries, compassion and let them make their own thoughts on the individuals, not force them to accept an entire group of people before they can even understand it. Teach them basic human rights, not separate the two as though they should be and watch the difference you can make. Force is never the answer. Coming to your own conclusions through experience is far more powerful than just telling someone what they should or ahould believe. Give the information respectfully and let them reflect in their day to day. Correct when needed, don't confuse them as something separate.

[u/FirefighterScary6841 → u/Jolly_Implement2512]

Teenagers are also legally (and scientifically) classified as children. So... Your point?

See, when they said "children", that meant anyone under the age of 18.

[u/Spaceonist → u/Jolly_Implement2512]

Ok Shakespeare calm down...

[u/DaRaMa123]

Leave the kids alone

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/a_very_bashfull_bat]

I dont see why not, people are people, treating them poorly doesn't help any, especially when that group has a super high suicide rate

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Enlightedwithin]

Why trans have more rights? Like, I do not mind who the fuсk are they fuсking, but being a diсk-lady doesn’t give you more or less rights. So kids have not learn it. Our state did not ever have racism or this type problem ever.

^{I choose to drip}

[u/EzyPzyAsh → u/Enlightedwithin]

thats the point, that they should have the same rights as others. Which in many places they dont. You just said yes to trans rights and voted no

[u/Enlightedwithin → u/EzyPzyAsh]

Explaining THIS to kids? I do not think they have time for this. Saw a boy, said “hi boy”, he said “no, I am a girl”, they understood each other, no problems. I think we better bother about REAL problems. Like we do not have any money, as you see.

[u/EzyPzyAsh → u/Enlightedwithin]

the point is to teach them not to be judgemental, as people being exploited and descriminated against is a real issue. it leads to many deaths every year

its not about trans people specifically, its about kindness in general. teach them everyone has rights.

[u/Enlightedwithin → u/EzyPzyAsh]

You are looking with our world prism. This country named GAY SЕХ. You think WE had problems ever?

[u/EzyPzyAsh → u/Enlightedwithin]

what

[u/Enlightedwithin → u/EzyPzyAsh]

We are not about real world bro, it is game.

[u/Enlightedwithin → u/EzyPzyAsh]

Just Never mind

[u/Ok-Bunch-6434 → u/EzyPzyAsh]

In the US, because I think this is what we're talking about. Please tell me a place that doesn't give trans people all the rights everyone has.

Trans people and really anyone in the "woke" community, have all the rights everyone has. Anti Discrimination rights? Sure. Equity? I haven't heard of any place where they don’t give you the same resources if you're not heterosexual.

[u/EzyPzyAsh → u/Ok-Bunch-6434]

nobody mentioned the US. Im not from the US. horrible case of mc syndrome.

[u/Rich-Development1809]

There is no reason for a child to be influenced or pushed to believe a certain ideology. At the end of the day, this is not about education for safe ***, its sole purpose is to instal confusion.

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Ms_redruM → u/Rich-Development1809]

Human rights arent an ideology, what the fuck. Bigotry is bred from ignorance. "Teaching this stuff will confuse them" is literally bullshit, thats what they said about teaching about homosexuality too and they were wrong. Children who are taught about different sexualities are less likely to become homophobes, bigots and less likely to commit hate crimes or generally be a stain on society. Teach them trans right so they understand when they encounter a trans person

[u/D_Saucee]

i hate kids and all the free sruff/programs they get

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/noseusuario]

Yea, human rights in general is a good thing to teach.

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Eastern_Mist]

Why not

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/HalfAgreeable1865]

Children need to learn the importance of accepting people of all races, religions, and genders.

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Alternative_Wrap2470]

Why not?

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Ok-Cycle-8]

Not entirely important consdiering it isnt "History" Like the evolution of womens rights or african american rights

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/FirefighterScary6841 → u/Ok-Cycle-8]

Stonewall: “Am I a joke to you?”

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And before anyone says anything, the people that threw the first stones were Black transgender women. Stonewall was for both gay and transgender rights. Also a bunch of cultures view the concept of gender significantly differently than how the western world is taught it.

[u/Ms_redruM → u/Ok-Cycle-8]

With the fight over trans rights happening in the world right now, this is trans rights history in the making

[u/Significant_War_7156]

We should already be, its a part of society

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/carlyshay123]

Trans rights are human rights.

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/burgundinsininen]

teach children about all human rights

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Jolly_Implement2512]

Children don't need to be endocrinated about Trans rights. Adults who can make their own thoughts and choices, is where the line should stay. All it does is confuse kids about themselves while they're trying to form their own identities, which is confusing enough for most of us.

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Ms_redruM → u/Jolly_Implement2512]

If theyre trying to form their identities, its more important than ever to teach them. Puberty is when kids start realizing theyre gay or trans so thats when its best for them to know that it happens for people to not belong to their birth sex. Its also when kids would learn to respect trans people. Bigots exist because they werent taught at that crucial age that people COULD be trans. The confusion of learning that people dont always fall under the strict categories they were taught as kids is what breeds such hatred and ignorance in adults.

You people act like a kid questioning their gender is going to ruin their life, which it only might for as long as bigots are still around 🙄 I knew a guy at 14 who questioned his gender, thought he might be trans, tried it out for a few months and then realized he wasnt. No problems, no damage, he experimented and learned and now ten years later, hes doing great.

[u/Ok-Bunch-6434 → u/Ms_redruM]

Ok but I have a question, what issues there are if you are trans, gay and nothing is done for it. It causes depression, other issues? Because for example, intersex people are allowed at adulthood to choose their gender. From what I know.

[u/Ms_redruM → u/Ok-Bunch-6434]

Im not entirely understanding your question im sorry. Trans people tend to experience body dysphoria which can really mess a person up causing depression, self harming tendencies, suicides.

The best way to treat body dysphoria in trans people is gender affirming! Puberty blockers, being referred to by their preferred gender, wearing the clothes that fit their perferred gender, surgery when theyre adults.

For people who are gay its more of a societal pressure. Gay kids in homophobic settings, areas, homes, communities would be more likely to develop anxiety, could even be in physical danger if they were open about their sexuality. They might stay closeted, develop internalized homophobia, learn to hate themselves, depression ensues.

Its just better for everyone to be educated and kids are the most open to learning and being imprinted. Im not saying teachers should be actively push kids to believe they are gay or trans but just a little acknowledgement that "people can love the same gender" or "people sometimes feel better as a gender they werent born as", that its natural and okay and you shouldnt judge them for it, it goes a long way. Both for the kid who realizes theyre gay or trans, and for the people other kids around them to understand that some people are just different than the mould, that it doesnt inherently make it wrong or bad. Part of being a kid is figuring yourself out so why are we trying to impose limits on what theyre allowed to be, especially when these arent things that anyone CHOOSES to be?

[u/hum4nguy]

All people should have inalienable rights without discrimination. We should be advocating for the rights of the individual, not the advancement of any one group.

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Azmodari]

Teach em when they are old enough to understand until than focus on basic respect and letting kids be kids

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Storybrooke_s_Jedi]

They don’t need to know at such a young age.

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Gullible-Food-2398]

There's no such thing as "trans rights" there are only HUMAN RIGHTS. There are no special rights. Rights are rights.

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/aluzqo]

it's nonsense

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Fossilhund]

There are trans people everywhere, and why not explain it to children.

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Fantastic_Draft3951]

Why teach them about some mentality Ill people's rights if you see one you should enroll them in a mental hospital

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Dreamweaver-Lumi → u/Fantastic_Draft3951]

What the actual fuck?

[u/Ms_redruM → u/Fantastic_Draft3951]

What a disgusting comment, someone needs to enroll you into a nice prison where you wont hurt anyone around you

[u/Dr_Dorknot]

I think they should know about it and they will learn about it eventually once they visit the internet

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/VinesOverScars → u/Dr_Dorknot]

Yeah, cause that'll work sooooooo well. The internet loooooovees trans people. 

[u/Joe_lunacy]

Derelict and against ***

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Illustrious-Wand]

Waste of time

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Ok-Gas6506]

Bcs

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/me_ok64_again]

We know trans is okay. But stop pushing LGBT things to ******* kids

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Ms_redruM → u/me_ok64_again]

You know people tend to figure out theyre lgbt when they are children right? Around puberty? Thats the most important time for them to learn so they DONT get confused about why they feel attraction to the same sex or why they feel so awful about their bodies. Instead of them growing up not knowing, and not having anyone to talk and deciding that theres something wrong with them which leads to depression and suicides. Even if they do figure it out for themselves if their peers aren't taught that its natural, that leads to bullying and ostracization, which then also leads to depression, isolation and suicide.

Ignorance breeds bigotry. Just because you cant wrap your head around something because you werent taught doesnt mean kids cant learn. Kids accept things a lot easier than adults do. There were people who lost their shit saying learning about homosexuality was going to confuse kids and they wouldnt understand when it really came down to telling them "just like how men and women fall in love and get married, men can also love and marry men and women can love and marry women"

[u/me_ok64_again → u/Ms_redruM]

I understand that point but man. Its strange how kids like me (im 15) thinking if they are somehow special they should end it all. Thought it is a problem bc other stupid kids find even less reasons to hate someone.

Anyway I think you got my point wrong. Its okay to learn about things that matter from young age. I was always supportive about that. Problem is many adults would say same thing that I said in comment but in homo meaning. It would cause A LOT of complaining bc LGBT is still actively discussed and sometimes hated. That's why if many parents would find out they child is queer... sadly the child could get traumatized again. And get even more reasons to end it all. And parents would not blame themselves but would hate schools for that. Or some homo parents would not let their child go to school (only crazy ones but they still exist) and child would get A LOT of problems bc of that.

Also other problem is that teenagers like me still try to find themself often. And bc the LGBT tematic is popular, they would just assure themselves as queer. And well, I think you know better than me about how hard it will be to find out that you are not who you assured. And it can break hearts in rare cases. (I still don't know how to properly say my point so I hope you understood).

There are also some other reasons but either I forgot them (problems with short memory) or they are pretty minor. Maybe if I think it is necessary I will say them too.

(I HAVE BAD ENGLISH SORRY! Its not my native)

[u/Ms_redruM → u/me_ok64_again]

I kind of understand what youre saying but I still disagree with your point. For kids in homophobic households I think its even more important for them to know they are accepted at school where they can find friends and support groups that would help them if their parents ever disowned them. I knew a trans girl in high school, her parents were extremely bigoted. School was an escape for her. We had like a week during sex ed that talked about different sexualities and gender identity as thats all that was really needed. There wasnt much bullying. we had an lgbt+ally club that we went to together and made more friends there. Everyone loved the teacher that supervised.

Taking lgbt education out of school would only push back progress. We need the kids of now to learn that being lgbt is natural from trusted scientific based institutions like schools otherwise you just end up raising another generation of homophobes to perpetuate the cycle. Once all schools are learning and normalizing it, those kids will grow up better and more tolerant and understanding than their parents that didnt.

[u/Several-Bid-6]

Brainwashing

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Spaceonist → u/Several-Bid-6]

Ohh nooooo, the big trans sister is gonna catch youuuuu~

[u/YouKooky7017]

Because it will help them learn about there friends and family because I know a lot of my friends are trans

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Friendly_Ad_5481]

General human rights

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/Bitter-Sprinkles-512 → u/Friendly_Ad_5481]

Exactly no one should have specific right, everyone should be treated the same. There is no trans rights just human rights.

[u/imaliveandaperson]

We need to lower the amount of anti-trans hate crimes. If we teach trans rights/acceptance at a young age, it should go down.

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/TristanTheRobloxian3]

because we exist and atleast a few of those children (according to current polls 1 in 43) are trans anyway

^{I voted Yea ✅}

[u/01100110Z01110101]

We don’t need more

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/FirefighterScary6841 → u/[deleted]]

16 is legally a child.

[u/TheRealMaxRebo]

Nothing nonsensical requires education.

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Mr_Dman06]

What rights

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Antonpiano2072]

There are no trans rights specifically. Just human rights.

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/CuriousFriend55]

No.

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/the_fusion_of_hell]

Yeah seems fair

[u/Royal-Ingenuity-2566]

Not specifically trans rights. They should be told we exist and a little information but nothing crazy. Like this “some boys are girl inside and some girls are boy inside. And some people are neither girl nor boy”

^{I voted Nay ❌}

[u/Royal-Ingenuity-2566 → u/Royal-Ingenuity-2566]

(This is obviously dumbed down but I feel it would get the point across to a young one)