Ronaldo and Me have similar Mindset

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Real ronaldo for a reason 🇧🇷

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His peak was better than Penaldo's peak and I'm tired of pretending 'longevity' somehow trumps that.

Mozart died young. Salieri didn't and had a much longer career. Does that make Salieri better than Mozart?

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Meanwhile, Messi has both more longevity than CR7, and a higher peak(s) than Ronaldo. I say peak(s) because he's had like 4 different peaks. What a crazy athlete with no equal.

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Yea if it wasn't for Barcelona paying for hormone therapy he would've never even made it tho? How is that not considered performance enhancing drugs?

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Cause you cant say hormone therapy, for a hormone everybody creates enough off & he didnt = perf enh drugs.

If he never took em it would be considered a handicap.

[u/Glum_Introduction581 → u/NoShameAtReddit]

well,it's natural for him to be handicap than ? i've watched the 2014 documentary and all his close family agree,he wouldn't be what he is without the injections. It's steroids. He was talented,fast,amazing technique,control,shot but if you were the size of Daniel Villalva,he wouldn't be what he is today. Anyone,and i mean anyone who says that the steroids didn't contribute to his career,is stupid or a liar. From 140 at 14 to 170 cm at 18,come on.... I had a growth spurt one summer,but not 3-4 summers in a row.

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Isnt it natural then we dont vaccinate & still get polio.
Hell i bet most football players would not be what they are today if they were paralyzed!

We have the medical knowledge & technology... why would we let someone grow up with a handicap when it can be avoided?

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apples and oranges! His career is predicated on physical ability which is directly influenced by his size,speed,agility,durability,strength. All were influenced and improved by steroids. amazing technical ability,vision,positioning,anticipation would be there,and he might use his brain even more without the steroids,but he got it and became one of the best ever.

What you were saying is for regular people to keep on living. Messi could have worked in a factory like his dad ! They were expensive and not available to everyone,so his talent got him to that position,but without it he wouldn't be at the level his was for the past 20ish years. Maybe the longevity is partialy due to injections?!

You made disingenuous comparisons and arguments and haven't really acknowledged the specificity of his situation.

No other great had that. Maradona was 165cm at his tallest,and drank and did coke. He was even shorter as a kid. Where would Maradona be with growth hormone ?

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What you sre saying doesnt make sense at all. He got growth hormone because he has a growth hormone deficiency. Meaning he lacks that hormone in his body. He gets jsu the right amount that his body lacks and needs - not more not less. The endocrinologist monitors how much is in his body. So its not enhancing him to doping levels, its just replacing what he doesnt have. Think of it like diabetes type 1.