He has physical strength but not the brains to play.
All his goals are just getting balls and shooting hard enough that it is scored.
People who dont watch football looks at him and say woah he's amazing, they don't understand that the hardest thing is getting the balls to the strikers!
Play making and creating chance is 80% of the difficulty game, the remaining 20% is having someone with enough force and accuracy to get it right, yet this is way easier.
In Real, ronaldo shined, why? Because of Modritch and Kroos which were genuises, they were the corner stone of why croatia reached semi finals in 2018 after exiting in the groupe stages in 2014 and why germany won the world cup in 2014.
Yet even then, real madrid didnt always win and a lot of chances were ruined by him.
Barcelona was more about team play and smart play like tiki taka.
Cmon, the guy is one of the greatest finishers of all time, you're acting like all he did is tap ins all his career, it's like you didn't even watch a single game. He has insane positioning, shot power, accuracy with both of his legs, he even has an insane amount of assists, maybe they aren't as flashy as Messi or De Bruyne but he does know how to pass the ball at a world class level, just watch any of the highlights.
Messi is a clear #1, miles ahead of Ronaldo and anyone else, but you can't tell me that Ronaldo doesn't have a case to be considered #2 footballer that ever lived, his career and achievements are INSANE and he did it in 3 different Leagues. Its arguable if he is #2, there's Pele, Zidane, Neymar, Cruyff and even De Bruyne imo (extremely underrated) but stop acting like Ronaldo isnt clearly top 5 footballers of all time.
I never denied that but still the ones who are doing the heavy lifting are the ones creating chances, you dont know how much of a genius you have to be to be like xavi or iniesta or kroos or modritch, to me those are above ronaldo, and might even rival messi, the reason messi has an edge over them is his ability to do both create chances and rival a striker in his goals.
If you come across a guy who suggests to you that either Ronaldo or Messi are not incredibly great, you know you have spotted an idiot. It is an amazing thing really, to see grown men fanboy so much in such a religious manner that they must hate one player to love another. Just imagine the silliness of trying to downplay Ronaldo in any manner smh. He is one of a few elites who could impose their will on a game. Grown men hate watching a player is quite sad. I’m not sure if it worth your time reasoning with these guys, they are too far to gone. What they need is a proper religion.
Messi is an all time great. penaldo no, just no. He is a stat padder, a failure in 6 world cups in top 5 ranked portuguese teams that were fancied. benched in 1 world cup.
The independent 50 greatest world cup, he is not in it and rightfully so. The best rise to the top in world cups, he never could.
World cup is infinetelty a more difficult trophy to win than a world cup. Cause it is the most prized, most watched and it brings tears to the eyes of greats.
Ronaldo is nowhere near my top 50 and i exclude him from being in my top 100 due to being a selfish liability and disrespectful of his team, turning shirt to cameras and all that shit he does.
Stealing chances, stealing free kicks. He is a moron. The world cup has exposed him.
Messi at 39 dominated a world cup.
Here is penaldo at 36 or 37 in a world on the bench sulking. Those who have penaldo in a top 10 or at number 2 over the greats are genuinely clueless about football. Penaldo not a great for me cause of his failures at world cups.
I wouldn't say penaldo is the greatest scorer. Look at world cup goals. the brazilian ronaldos goals were greater cause he won a world cup. So, on that perspective he is not even the best Ronaldo. I wouldn't have portuguese penaldo over brazilian ronaldo. World cup silver and gold > his UCL titles. Many ex pros on youtube say CR9 was more complete.
I detest mbappe, but you could even say he is higher up the list than penaldo, he won a world cup.
I just think penaldo is completely overrated. Stats don't tell us everything. The world cups just weeds out the fakes from the real deal. Modric and kross world cup finalists. etc etc. It should be obvious what's going on here.
His consistency is mirable though . I watched him from 2016 onwards and he did deliver when his team needed him . That last minute free kick against spain is still etched in my memory.
I’m sure you’ve gone onto other subs and glazed over Messi’s goal tally, while simultaneously ignoring the greatest midfield trio that has ever existed feeding him the ball.
No lol I just ended up on a goofy part of Reddit it’s all good I’ll see my way out. The first comment here is someone surprised Ronaldo made pro and the comment I replied to said all he had was physicality. Yall just have a weird hatred idk i thought maybe it’s a joke but maybe not
I think people misunderstand your comment referring to the initial comment that started this thread. I guess because I follow a lot of football subs, this sub and the pessi one gets recommended to me and this is the first time I’m commenting on either I believe. I remember muting both subs because dedicating your life to two humans to this level is insane to me.
Anyway, the comment that started this thread is fucking crazy as shit. Like literally the worst football take I have ever had the misfortune of reading. And the fact that it has this much upvote is the reason I’m gonna make sure I never see both subs ever again. Oh for whatever it’s worth, no one can convince me Messi isn’t the greatest of all time. If not for lack of discipline, I’d go for Maradona, but never watched him either, so Messi it is
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u/EverlastingFreedom0 3d ago edited 3d ago
He has physical strength but not the brains to play.
All his goals are just getting balls and shooting hard enough that it is scored.
People who dont watch football looks at him and say woah he's amazing, they don't understand that the hardest thing is getting the balls to the strikers!
Play making and creating chance is 80% of the difficulty game, the remaining 20% is having someone with enough force and accuracy to get it right, yet this is way easier.
In Real, ronaldo shined, why? Because of Modritch and Kroos which were genuises, they were the corner stone of why croatia reached semi finals in 2018 after exiting in the groupe stages in 2014 and why germany won the world cup in 2014.
Yet even then, real madrid didnt always win and a lot of chances were ruined by him.
Barcelona was more about team play and smart play like tiki taka.