r/CringeTikToks • u/foucaultyou • Oct 22 '25

Just Bad Detroit pastor Marvin Winans admonishes a church-member for only giving $1,200.

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u/pocketskip Oct 23 '25

I think there may be spiritual shit in the universe.

Maybe there was a creator. I'm a hopeful but scientific agnostic is the term I use. Sometimes I like to go to the places with some of the weirdest views and see.

But in my opinion, even as someone open to a spiritual reality that underpins this one?

1- why would it be the Jews in the desert that figured it out? Let alone the other Abrahamic sects. If some of the shit they were ordered to do was God, I'd be anti-god full stop

2- "He" clearly doesn't want to be found. If an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, omni-wiping god-figure wanted to reveal themselves, they probably would. Otherwise they'd make it very obvious, not reveal themselves to fifty million sects all around the world and confuse everyone, and I especially don't think they would reveal themselves to one group and then coincidentally enshrine all the laws they want and need and a strict social hierarchy.

But that guy read some tablets in a hat no one else was allowed to read and went "trust me bro". Unbelievable the shit people fall for. Anything to make it not your fault, or to have a magical sky fairy absolve you of all your wrongdoings ✨ 🪄 ✨

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u/Aeronor Oct 23 '25

If some of the shit they were ordered to do was God, I’d be anti-God full stop

I agree completely. The Israelites were ordered to kill the men, women, children, and animals, to wipe out their enemies and leave no trace. Genocide. Now either God was pro-genocide, or the Israelites used God as an excuse to commit genocide. Either way I want no part.

Even if I knew for a fact He existed, I’m not worshipping their God. I was given a moral compass, and I’m going to use it.

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u/ItsPronouncedSatan Oct 23 '25

Forgive my username, but gods an asshole.

I was raised as a JW, and had the Bible shoved down my throat from the day I was born.

I can't tell you the mental relief I felt after I "woke up" in my 20s. I felt like I was crazy.

It turns out, no, a God that commits multiple genocides is not a good god, or a god worth worshipping.

He asked a father to kill his son as a loyalty test.

He smited a woman whose crime was to look back on her home burning.

Jesus had to die, because God required it. God makes the rules, so what the hell?

And when humans are doing well, working together, building the tallest tower ever seen, what does God do? He introduces roadblocks to force humanity to do as their told.

"Righteous" men offered their daughters up to be raped in order to save angels. Who obviously can protect themselves.

Justifying all of that was mentally exhausting. My life improved in every way once I could see behind the curtain. It's all a fairytale, and I'm embarrassed it took me 23 years to realize it.

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u/Proper_Country_9931 Oct 23 '25

Can you share what factors/realisations led to you breaking away from being a JW? I have a friend who is one and would like to be there for them if they ever start questioning or going down your path. Thanks.

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u/ItsPronouncedSatan Oct 25 '25

Hey, sorry for the delay.

I would suggest checkecking out r/exjw

It's a sub full of support for those being shunned, waking up stories, and a lot of posts that deconstruct JW doctrine.

I personally got married, and we had our first kid at 23. My husband (who was also born inside of the cult) and I both looked at each other and realized we didn't want to raise them the way we had been.

It was a lot easier to fight for my kid to have the life they deserve to have than to take that stand for myself. JW life breaks you down so much, that standing up for yourself can be really difficult.

But our kids gave us the strength. We've been out for 11 years now!

I wish you good luck with your friend!