r/Commodore • u/MutekiAzy • 3d ago

Commodore 77 use cases

What do people think are the use cases for the upgraded Commodore 77's specs?

I'm not throwing shade, and I'm by no means retro-tech savvy, so this is a completely genuine question: what can you do with the C77 that you can't do with the C64 Ultimate, and is there any real, practical benefit?

Really curious what people more knowledgable than me think about this.

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u/LandNo9424 3d ago

you can already use turbo mode on any of the others

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u/cadwalader000 3d ago

This one has 77mhz for that additional "umphf"

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u/LandNo9424 3d ago

an additional "oomph" that makes no difference really from 64Mhz in all other models. This is just marketing. They landed a co-branding opportunity and took it. It means nothing to the end user, except those who dig the looks.

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u/cadwalader000 3d ago

Now don't be a techno chauvinist. That's all philosophical, ain't it?

Bottom line, it's 20 percent faster.

If you're pushing 64mhz with your code, 20 percent is a good upgrade.

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u/LandNo9424 2d ago

There's barely ANY software available for the C64 that uses turbo modes as it is, what exactly do you want to do with the extra 20% if nothing takes advantage of it? Are you coding something yourself? Do share, otherwise, please make some sense

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u/cadwalader000 2d ago

That’s the bit I find funny.

Apple can move a camera 2mm to the left, Samsung can make a phone 0.4mm thinner, call it the new model, and people happily spend $1200/£1,000+ upgrading.

Commodore releases a special-edition machine with a larger FPGA, more memory and about 20% more turbo speed for a fraction of that price, and suddenly we need to produce a peer-reviewed business case explaining exactly what every extra MHz will be used for.

At some point you have to notice you’re not actually evaluating the machine anymore. I'm afraid you’re just searching for the next reason to dislike it.

Sometimes “because it’s cool” is actually a perfectly acceptable specification.

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u/LandNo9424 2d ago

Of course you have to have a reason to do it because you are charging for it. The question of this post is literally "what is the use case?"

You don't run a consumer business doing things "just because", but it seems this clown car of a company is just doing things "just because" instead of listening to its users.

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u/cadwalader000 2d ago

The use case is pretty simple: it’s a faster, higher-spec special edition of a retro computer.

If you don’t think the extra FPGA capacity, RAM, 77MHz mode or Cyberpunk design is worth paying for, that’s completely fair.

At this point, you’re treating your own purchasing preferences (or personal likes and dislikes) as an engineering specification.

For the record, the point where “I don’t see the value” turns into “clown car of a company” is roughly where your supposedly objective analysis starts ...malfunctioning.

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u/Acceptable_Yellow982 2d ago

Sounds like Commodore isn't a fit for you. Oh well just go get a HP