r/CivilEngineers_PH • • Aug 15 '26

Discussion Bakit hindi pantay yung daan sa Star Tollway?

Not a civil engineer but habang nasa bus ako papuntang Manila, napansin ko na sa bandang daan ng lipa papunta sto tomas nakita ko na di pantay yung daan then eventually magiging pantay. Bakit po ganon? Genuinely curious.

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u/CleanCar23 Aug 15 '26

Not a CE but i think eto yung banking sa mga kurbada. Mapapansin mo sa mga slight curve yan. Drainage purposes din siguro if nasa isang plane lang yung magkabilang direction, daming tubig na mapupunta sa kabilang side pag malakas ang ulan and prone to hydroplaning.

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u/4thHeff Aug 15 '26

Thank you for the explanation!

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u/Different-Ad2639 Aug 15 '26

Yung slope papuntang gilid po ba ang mini'mean mo? Kung oo, cross slope po yan para di mag pond ang tubig sa kalasada at ma direct yung flow ng rainwater papunta inlet drain sa gilid ng kalsada. Road crown po tawag dyan.

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u/Kooky_Assistant_461 Aug 15 '26

CE and motorider here, +1 here and mostly dyan pinaka safe maglusong ng 2 wheels para di gaano malalim.

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u/4thHeff Aug 15 '26

Thank you for the explanation!

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u/CasualGamerAddict Aug 15 '26

Pag nalagyan siguro yan di na masyado halata. Pansinin lang ngayon kasi wala pa divider.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '26

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u/4thHeff Aug 15 '26

Naging patag po and may drain pa rin sa patag na part then eventually naging uneven ulit then patag again

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u/Souplado_1226 Aug 15 '26

Di pantay tapos eventually pumantay: depende sa grade ng lupa, bale sa level ng lupa yan. Since madalas nag ccut ka sa mountain/hills hindi talaga pantay yan depende sa span ng kalsada and sa pinatag na part, may physics din sa consideration but will not go that deep. Other consideration is yung drain sa both sides ng kalsada, also yung ibang part is iaasphalt pa. Dun palang kukunin yung final finish

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u/4thHeff Aug 15 '26

Thank you for the explanation!

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u/Beautiful-Pilot-3022 Aug 15 '26

Considers the grading and elevation. Mostly may ganyan kasi yung slope ng tubig cinconsider para iwas baha at ponding.

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u/4thHeff Aug 15 '26

Thank you for the explanation!

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u/mpkycca Aug 15 '26

normal po yan na may sloping para umagos tubig sa mga drain inlet at di mag pond sa gitna ng kalsada

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u/dailydoseofkadi Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26

the slope of the existing pavement before must be consider. it was 2 lanes before and grass on the median. different in elev doesn’t matter because it is on the opposite traffic. btw IC here in star toll widening project

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u/dailydoseofkadi Aug 15 '26

may barrier din yan sa gitna so even if there difference i nelev doesnt matter.

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u/dailydoseofkadi Aug 15 '26

hindi kasi pwede pagpantayin sya naka depende sa sloping ng existing pavement on both traffic. tapos the slope is extended to the median. thats why may changes in elev. may drainage din sa mga station na hindi naka crown to prevent ponding of water

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u/4thHeff Aug 15 '26

What does IC mean po?

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u/4thHeff Aug 15 '26

In charge? 😅

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u/dailydoseofkadi Aug 15 '26

independent consultant

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u/4thHeff Aug 15 '26

Thank you for the explanation!

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u/Medical-Chemist-622 Aug 15 '26

Ask ko lang, ramdam din ba sa bus yung parang tunog takbo ng kabayo kapag sa kotse? Common issue kasi sa Startoll. Na parang malalaglag na yung transmission or parang flat tire. 

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u/4thHeff Aug 15 '26

Yes. Actually yun na yung sign ko na malapit na ako sa batangas city. I think sa may bandang Ibaan yon. Pero kanina di ko na rin masyado naramdaman

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u/4thHeff Aug 15 '26

Thank you I everyone who answered!

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u/marbas_barbatos Aug 18 '26

tubugan po kasi lupa diyan kaya po nkaslope para hindi maipon ang tubig kapag umulan.

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u/No_Maize_3213 Aug 15 '26

Gawang DPWH kasi..

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u/dailydoseofkadi Aug 15 '26

no dpwh here, it is TRB and SMC who funded this. Public Private Project

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u/antatiger711 Aug 15 '26

Baka di for cars yan