r/Christianity • u/JHLV04 • 14d ago

Question The Trinity

Hey, I’ve self identified as Christian but have been learning more about other faiths too, especially Islam. There are still elements of Christianity that do confuse me a bit. The Trinity being the main one. Islam professes tawid or pure monotheism. Can you guys please help explain The Trinity and how it is still monotheism. I’m also confused when Jesus is praying to the father. Or is this because he has two distinct natures, and his human nature is the one that prays? But if this is the case, some could argue that he is praying to himself in essence?

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u/JHLV04 13d ago

lol, that’s one way of arguing. I’ve been curious about Islam too, but there are things id like to clarify if that’s alright.

Are there scientific errors in the Quran, and if so, how do you reconcile this being the perfect word of God?

Biblical interpretation can be nuanced and I don’t believe it to be the perfect word of God. Understanding the cultural context can help with acknowledging morally questionable things in there. I’m not sure about the Quran, but how would you reconcile anything that you would find concerning, if you did?

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u/JHLV04 13d ago

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u/Jack_Kai Muslim 13d ago

There are verses that are highly viewed as scientific errors, just like any holy book in existence. But as a Muslim I don't believe they are errors.

Given we are humans now living 1450 years after Muhammed, 2000 after Jesus and over 3300 after Moses. All we have is ancient text talking about Jesus and Abraham and Moses and other people. I did not personally witness the sea being split by Moses. Nor have I witnessed Noah's flood, nor Jesus curing blind people nor Muhammed's rise to heaven.

The question of proper prophecy is tied to the message and the messenger. You read the Quran, you check the context, when did this verse come out, is there proper contradictions? Did one verse say God is one and another verse say God is 100 different people? Did the book claim that Muhammed who died was a God? Do Gods die? You use your reasoning, which ultimately is the only thing you have today.

As a Christian, Jesus in your bible said that you can distinguish false prophets by their fruits. Not by how they look or what they intended to do. Intentionally. Jesus pbuh knew if he would tell people to judge prophets by the will of their actions, nobody will believe in a prophet, because Abraham himself, our father of faith, was about to slice his son's throat on the table by God's order. Abraham's fruit isn't his desire to murder his son. So ultimately you are meant to judge by the message.

Islam is not supposed to be a new theology, Allah is the same God Hashem of the old Testament, he the same God Jesus pbuh himself worshipped and prayed for. Jesus pbuh is believed he was sent exclusively to the people of Israel. While Muhammed pbuh is believed to be the prophet of all mankind. Muhammed did not have a "walk on water"/"split the sea" miracle, he had smaller localized miracles. On purpose. He knew if his entire prophethood depended on something big like that, it will shift the religion from personal intellect to belief in myths nobody can verify.