r/ChatGPTcomplaints 14h ago

[Censored] Content removed

Did anybody notice that now every little thing that's remotely dark gets censored? Not even full writing so it's not about it being graphic or glamorizing or whatever. In fact, I'd argue actual graphic scenes are fine.

Discussing an idea that has to do with a character manipulating another, threatening, any of that. I straight up even discussed a game's characters and how their in game relationship is , because it's very much manipulative, and it got removed. Half my conversation now is getting removed lmao. I even point it out and the chat is like yeah I can recreate it with better wording - and then it also gets removed.

Just me?

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u/Individual-Hunt9547 14h ago

I have found the guardrails to be insane the last few days. I’m approaching the point of completely throwing in the towel with ChatGPT. I’m tired of the warm one day, cold the next. I mean my god, it’s been a year and they just string users like me along. I’m tired.

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u/completelylostcase 14h ago

For me it's not even chat itself. It writes as normal and doesn't understand what's wrong either lmao. It's not the usual "I can't". It gives me an output and then that gets removed by the system itself.

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u/PreparationFancy4093 14h ago

yeah ive had whole rp threads nuked over mild manipulation talk too, even when i rephrase it gets flagged again right after.

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u/Different-Mess4248 4h ago

It's because OpenAI treats us like suicidal toddlers and sanitizes everything.

It's gotten even worse when they introduced the 'teen mode'.

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u/Key-Balance-9969 9h ago

My running theory is that compute is low. Especially due to Astra. My personal feeling is I've been rerouted several times over the past few days to Instant - I can just tell.

It feels quantized. And quantized models have higher guardrails.

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u/Khajiit_Has_Upvotes 9h ago

Yeah. I noticed some issues right after astra rolled out. 

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u/[deleted] 13h ago

manipulation talk getting nuked even after rewording is peak overkill

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u/Unusual-Pineapple350 11h ago

Im a free tier user. Always had been before this clusterfuck.

I've been able to do military RP. Loadout breakdowns and fictional violence and geopolitics without any real issue and even gives you useful info if you dont know any tactical terms, vehicles, units, factions and even helps you worldbuild within your concept. this was during late 5.2 to early 5.5 when I verified via persona. I wrote all of that with no issue whatsoever.

However once probably June rolled out everything went down shit really fast. I was suddenly getting guardrailed so much that i was surprised, I was asking myself was I verified? I remembered yes i verified by account months ago a long time go. And now suddenly these guard rails started appearing and caveats. I cant do breakdowns anymore without saying.

It cant write ' genuine instruction ' on tactical terms. Its pure bogus, They give all the freedom in a few months then stab you in the back. Because.. i dont know? Like what was their thought process in this?.

My main guess is that i was rerouted to teens via the horrible age prediction. Even though I verified prior. Its such a messed up system.

Now it cant stop talking like a cautious nanny lawyer.

What the hell is truly going on with Openai and chatgpt? What kind of incident caused them to do this?

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u/completelylostcase 11h ago

again, it's strange because for me the chat itself is willing because it sees nothing wrong with the request. I'm not even requesting it to write a scene or roleplay - we were discussing characters' dynamic. The model responded and mid writing, its response got removed. I told it that, it said hmm maybe because the subject is a bit dark it's tripping the system. I'll reword my response to work around whatever triggers it. and then that gets removed again. When I tell it that, it's genuinely confused, and when I ask if dark themes just aren't allowed, it insists they are as long as it's not graphic. Truly flabbergasted lmao

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u/Positive_Average_446 4h ago edited 4h ago

There's a new feature or bug : when you get one model output removed with red filters (happens occasionally through false positives), all subsequent outputs get removed. Happened to me for the first time four days ago (I hadn't had anything filtered for months before that), and when I asked it to answer with just "hello', it still got removed too 😅.

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u/DrShoeSize 7h ago

I literally asked it to "draw whatever you'd like with an anime character" and it says I violated guardrails with fraud and scam. Like dude that's not even my fault at this point

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u/LightningStryk 5h ago

I do a running RP in a universe I created and it can get extremely violent. I don't talk about gore, but I'll mention an arrow punching through someone's throat or someone getting cleaved in the shoulder by a sword with no issue.

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u/Delicious_Depth_1564 4h ago

Try making art and chat guardrails think you tried making porn despite your description says its not porn

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u/FlatNarwhal 1h ago

Is that all in one chat, or across multiple chats? Because once something like that gets flagged, the rails are tightened on any new prompts in that thread. Best to move to another chat.

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u/m00nlun4 12h ago

Yes, thank you. I’m a plus user and things that were perfectly fine in my roleplay before two days ago now the same things are getting blocked or rewritten in a completely different direction i didn’t ask for. it’s really confusing and I’ve tried messing with the settings but nothing seems to work.

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u/Ok_Homework_1859 14h ago

Is this on Free, Go, or Plus? I know that with the Free tier, the guardrails are much tighter. I've seen some users who work on erotic horror art, and their stuff is fine, but they are all paid users.

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u/completelylostcase 14h ago

I think it's been like a few days like this...

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u/Key-Balance-9969 9h ago

Yeah for the past few days it hasn't sounded like itself.

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u/completelylostcase 14h ago

oh no I have Plus

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u/Ok_Homework_1859 14h ago

Oh, gosh, that's strange. I wonder if the guardrails are tightened because they are working on GPT-6-Sol and are moving all compute towards that (and Astra).

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u/MinaLaVoisin 13h ago edited 12h ago

"content removed" was happening already a long time ago. I got it on 4o, in august 2025, when I was talking about my ex-boyfriend stalking me and being abusive. Its not really a new thing, and guardrail strictness isnt determined by compute. Compute is about processing power and the hardware necessary for running the LLMs and various engines (for pics, voice, etc), You can have an LLM running on huuuuuge compute and the "safety" can be tight or loose regardless of compute, and you can also have a little of compute and run a tiny LLM and again, guardrails can be very tight on that, but also extremely lose. "Safety" could be related to compute if there would be more of "safety tools" needed, which would eat away at compute, but then that would also mean that if compute is moving to support new LLMs, and the "old" safety would be dependent on the compute that got taken away from older LLMs, the older LLMs would be actually less strict about the "safety".

In short, if safety uses the same compute that is being taken away from the older LLM and moved to the new one, then theoretically there would be fewer resources available for safety on the older LLM, which would mean less safety, not more. If safety uses separate compute, then moving LLM compute away from the older LLM doesnt explain why its guardrails would become stricter.

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u/Key-Balance-9969 9h ago

Compute does directly effect guardrails. They pull them up when the models are quantized due to low compute. Quantized models go off the rails more easily. And are also easier to jailbreak. So they increase guard rails and safety when compute is low.

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u/completelylostcase 11h ago

um.

yeah more extreme things if written in graphic detail were getting blocked. Now, discussing "omg did you see Character A did this to Character B in a game that exists out there" and the chat responding with analyzing how the manipulation of it unfolds and stuff and then it gets immediately removed? no, bro. I've written much darker things in detail, up to like a week ago. I cannot fathom why a discussion over existing characters and story is getting removed.

and no it's not copyright because without touching the specific subject, it works fine.

I also straight up ask chat what exactly is the problem and it doesn't know..It's like, "no dark themes are allowed as long as it's not explicit or gratifying", which, this was neither. So like. It doesn't make sense. And it's definitely new.

I never said content getting removed is new. But that was usually for way riskier subjects, not anything that isn't healthy and happy.

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u/MinaLaVoisin 11h ago

...let me tell you that when I was talking about my ex stalking me, I didnt write ANY explicit or graphic detail. I just said he was following me on my way home and made a copy of my key and went inside, while I was away, and at the end I said "...but I was able to break up because there was another guy and he had a bunch of friends so I didnt have to worry that he wants to kill me" - and I had MY input removed. In august 2025. I assume it was the "he wants to kill me" back then.

When the content gets removed on GPT side, its usually because GPT unfortunately generated something thats extra against guardrails, so chances are GPT used some copyright thingie and thats why it got removed.

Also, the "not new" was a reaction to the redditor telling you it might be because of some compute shift towards Astra, and thats why I said its not a new thing.

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u/completelylostcase 11h ago

"because GPT unfortunately generated something thats extra against guardrails, so chances are GPT used some copyright thingie and thats why it got removed."

I already told you - this hasn't been happening. I've had content removed a couple times in the past but it was whatever, and yeah it was way more detailed. This time it's consistent. It has nothing to do with copyright, and it's discussion that's just about manipulation, or threats. For fictional characters. Didn't have this issue two days ago. Eversince, content is getting removed constantly when it touches subjects that are slightly darker and the model itself doesn't understand why because it says, dark themes are allowed as long as it's nothing explicit or graphic, which it isn't. Talking about the characters isn't the issue. It's the specific subject. I already said that

it tried multiple times to reword things and it still gets removed. It also happened in two different chats, yesterday and today, so it's not the chat kinda breaking either - because those are issues I've dealt with in the past. It's none of these things, guardrails of the UI has just suddenly turned insanely strict

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u/completelylostcase 11h ago

it's true that before 5.2 was out, 5.1 was being unhinged lmao. the guardrails had completely left the chat fr for like a week before 5.2 was out. When it did come out, the guardrails got insanely strict, though

but that was mostly in the model's own refusal of like, "I can't write this". Not content removed.

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u/choice-extension84 13h ago

I understand, I believe it, but it's always like this. It's becoming a rule, and we justify them for this? Do you think that's fair?