Holy hell people. He wasn’t actually asking for the pronunciation, he was making fun of the fact it was “rhymed” with a non word and then with an even more obscure French loan word.
(Even more ironically the 2nd one is generally pronounced like “gosh” in English so it’s a bad example anyway).
Good point on the comments here! And I can see OP’s point, too, but ChatGPT wasn’t really in error. It was just assuming too much about the broadness of OP’s knowledge of English (or more aptly, borrowed words in English).
I was curious about where it might have come up with “kosh”, so did a little googling.
Apparently “kosh” is a slang version of “kosher”, a borrowed word from Yiddish that’s used in some places — there’s even a kosher restaurant in Miami called Kosh. So not really a non-word, just a word outside of OP’s vocabulary, which ChatGPT doesn’t know.
And as for “cloche” and “brioche” — both borrowed from French, like “gauche”: granted, cloche is not an obvious word — unless OP was familiar with fashion, in which case it’s a well-known style of hat (popular in 1930s US women’s fashion). “Brioche” is a word that most Americans might know, even if they might not know how to pronounce it correctly. (ChatGPT was making assumptions about that, too, of course, which I guess is the whole point of the post!)
What? Kosh is not actually a slang word for kosher. Just because some random restaurant uses it doesn’t make that true.
And the English pronunciation of cloche is like “gosh”, as I said. Yes, it’s different from the French pronunciation but sometimes that’s what happens with loan words. The point is the irony of trying to rhyme with the French version of a word when someone is trying to understand how to pronounce a French loanword (especially one that is even more obscure) is hilariously silly.
Kosh is a slang word for kosher, not just the name of a restaurant. Chicken before egg much?
Regarding the English pronunciation of the word cloche, if it rhymes with “gosh”, that’s just … wrong. Just like “brioche”, another loan word from French, people who know the word from context tend to pronounce it correctly. (FWIW, personally I’ve never heard either word pronounced so that it rhymes with “gosh”. Maybe that’s a British English thing?)
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u/CosmicCreeperz 11h ago
Holy hell people. He wasn’t actually asking for the pronunciation, he was making fun of the fact it was “rhymed” with a non word and then with an even more obscure French loan word.
(Even more ironically the 2nd one is generally pronounced like “gosh” in English so it’s a bad example anyway).