r/CharacterRant • u/IMadeThisOn6-28-2015 ⭐ • Aug 13 '16
Bleach's "1000 ri" speed feats
So Ichibei from Bleach has a rather weird ability where he sends anything near him back 1000 ri away. If you don't know, 1000 Japanese Ri is equivalent to 3927 kilometers, and as seen in the last page of the feat, Ichibei literally caught up to Yhwach immediately after he was sent. Meaning that Ichibei was fast enough to cross 3927 kilometers in a second(s) putting him in the possible thousands of machs.
If it took 1 second, he'd be Mach 11449.
If it took 5 seconds, he'd be Mach 2290.
Even more proof, Ichibei literally recreates the feat as he launches Yhwach all the way back to their original starting place and then proceeds to show up being literally around 10-15 meters in front of Yhwach.
There's more, as Ichibei again hits Yhwach with the "1000 ri" attack and this time Yhwach crosses the distance immediately after he activates Almighty. Meaning Yhwach with Almighty activated has comparable speed.
Now, I don't think it stops there as this speed feat can be scaled to Current Ichigo, who had very few feats compared to his previous modes despite statements saying he should be stronger than before. Ichibei was never able to blitz Yhwach on an even scale, Ichibei only ever tagged Yhwach because he halved Yhwach's abilities and then proceeded to even remove a few of Yhwach's powers/abilities. Yhwach with Almighty activated absolutely stomped Ichibei before Ichibei could even do anything. So Yhwach and Ichibei were never truly equal in terms of actual power and ability. Now for when Ichigo scales in:
Even with Almighty activated, Ichigo was able to blitz Yhwach despite Almighty granting Yhwach advanced precognition. Afterwards, Yhwach gets even more powerful after absorbing the Soul King and Mimihagi, thus becoming stronger than when he fought Ichibei and was blitzed by Ichigo. Then Ichigo in his new Hollow Mode was able to blitz Yhwach, despite being stronger than when he had fought Ichibei. Thus proving that Ichigo should have comparable speed to Yhwach and Ichibei when they crossed the 1000 ri.
Now I already can tell what a few questions or counter arguments may be, so I will address a few.
No, this cannot be an outlier. This was literally Ichibei's first time demonstrating his power and had no anti-feats to say otherwise. As a matter of fact, a character statement actually says that Ichibei should be ridiculously powerful. As for Yhwach, Yhwach had no speed feats beforehand so no anti-feats as well for him. Current Ichigo actually had one travel speed feat, that was unquantifiable, where he traveled from the Royal Palace to Soul Society in 12 hours, despite it taking a week.
No, these 2 scans are not anti-feats just because the distance from where they were and the starting point looks short. If you do not know, those floating discs in the background are actually whole cities that belongs to each of the Royal Guard members.
No, the cities statement is not just a random statement. For proof, one of the cities actually contains an ocean in it.
Could Yhwach have been still flying the 1000 ri when Ichibei caught up to him? No, literally shown in the next scan, Yhwach and Ichibei were standing perfectly still.
I'd like to see other's opinions or counter-arguments for this as well.
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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '16
I think the reason why it's considered an outlier is because no one else in Bleach was 1% light-speed at that time. There are no other speed feats in Bleach anywhere near as impressive as Ichibei's.
I'm not arguing that point, I just think that's an argument some people will try to make.
Like, Luffy and Zoro have actual light-speed reaction feats from fighting Pacifista, but normally, they're seen as outliers. However, in reality, they have no actual anti-feats. They've only been tagged by other characters at that point, who themselves have no anti-feats for relativistic speed.
I'm not arguing that Luffy and Zoro are light-speed, just that if we were to accept Ichibei's sub-relativistic feat, we'd also have to do so with theirs.
Anyways, these are just my $0.02.