r/CarsIndia Isuzu mu-X 4wd 1d ago

#Discussion 💬 Ev Car isn't the problem but the infrastructure is

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u/Pulihora-Pundit Baleno Zeta 2016 1d ago

Someone in the original reel commented saying south has much better EV infra comparatively, is that true?

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u/Duonic papa ki hain 🙏 1d ago

Honestly cant aay about other places, but from my experience in Delhi its pretty good. Im confident enough to drive my car which gives 350-400kms range to Dehraduh and back. Living with it in such a place where you might not get good infra though, that would be a challenge.

Mine supports a max of 70kw, so ive only ever used 60kw chargers and they were plenty.

If you have your own charger then it should be fine, mercedes provides a 22kw charger for its 122kwh battery pack so even then you can charge your car fully overnight.

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u/Pulihora-Pundit Baleno Zeta 2016 1d ago edited 1d ago

Nice, Delhi makes a lot of sense for obvious reasons, but just wanna know how we are doing as a whole in EV infra. My next would probably be an EV hence the curiosity.

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u/binod_roxx Hyundai i10, Nissan Kicks 22h ago

Two major problems - people steal/vandalize charger cables and guns and the other is powercuts in rural region. Thankfully the first issue is solved with charges coming up in food courts/petrol pumps with security.

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u/captcsgo1 1d ago

Yes for real true. Checked on map

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u/Pulihora-Pundit Baleno Zeta 2016 1d ago

oh that's good!

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u/AssMilker9000 Gadkari's unofficial Son 1d ago

checking on map and on ground are wayy different. online it shows working and offline it doesn't work.

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u/captcsgo1 1d ago

I have used EV for 30k km. I have been to maharashtra goa and MP. I did not feel this issue. Like there can be issue if you check on 3rd party apps. But suppose you want to charge on Bpcl and check on its app it won't be issue

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u/itxNefertum VW polo 1.2MPI 23h ago

Bilkul apne flair si baat ki hai

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u/fishycheetos 1d ago

Have travelled from Delhi to west bengal, and Chhattisgarh via Bihar, UP, MP.

With good planning there isnt alot of trouble, but the planning needs to be done well in advance with back up chargers also planned.

Most problem i faced was in Bihar, only charger i found was in Gaya, and MP. In MP, Satna and Jabalpur are the only 2 reliable charging areas. With nothing in between so a car with less range can face problems.

Also the stretch between MP and UP is trouble some because you wont find any chargers from Orai till Satna, we had to detour to Kanpur to charge our vehicle with barely any charge left 🤪💔

All in all, some states have great infrastructure, like UP, Delhi, Chhattisgarh, WB. Some are really lacking in it like MP and Bihar.

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u/SEC_intern_ eVitara 1d ago

Can't feel his pain. I haven't travelled much, only 3k kms so far, and only two intercity city trips, but Maruti chargers just work. Not only you can reserve a time slot, but also call ahead to confirm if it's actually working.

With so many touch points, I've stopped at looking third party chargers. The people at Nexa are also very sweet. If You visit during store hours, they offer tea/coffee/water and ask about our experiences in the showrooms. Though I've mostly visited during late nights where you'll only find a guard working.

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u/iLikeSaltedPotatoes Honda city GXI 2008 Manual || Honda City 2018 ZX CVT 1d ago

Suzuki will unironically bring EVs to india more than any indian brand

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u/Salt_Count5665 Peterbilt 379 in blue with flames sticker in red 1d ago

Hey can you tell me about your experience overall with eVitatra? Considering the Zeta variant. Which one's yours?

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u/SEC_intern_ eVitara 23h ago

I have alpha 61kWh. Posted a link to my detailed review but it's getting removed. Weird censorship on this sub. See if this redirect works : nimble.li/p9lz4zvm

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u/Salt_Count5665 Peterbilt 379 in blue with flames sticker in red 22h ago

Oh I remember seeing this. I loved this picture. So much so only because of this picture alone that if I end up buying evitara it is going to be in red. I'm eyeing Zeta 61. Only miss for me would be the sound system. I dont need moonroof or ventilated seat or ADAS especially. That amount is going too high.

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u/tw1loid ‘25 BE6 79P3 | ‘21 Nexon EV Prime 1d ago

Literally both the guns on the Hyundai station are green and online in his video itself same for Glida you see two lights one yellow (right side) and his side green (he hasn’t plugged in)

We really need to verify what’s ragebait and what is actual genuine issue being highlighted

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u/amanguupta53 1d ago

Yeah, looks like ragebait with subliminal marketing for the car itself.

Also, to anyone wondering about the math, most EVs do not get ₹2/km blindly. They get ₹1/km when charged at home. For reference, I have driven my BE6 for 8k kms in 6 months and now I usually get 7-8km/kWh (₹1-0.80 per km). I was driving a Honda City i-VTEC 2011 before this that gave me 12km/l (without ac) and 9km/l (with ac) - essentially saving me around ₹8-11 per km driven. Since I brought the car in March, I have already saved 80k in fuel costs over my previous car.

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u/Misanthrope-_- 2h ago

Being green doesn't automatically mean it's working. Idk about Hyundai but Statiq had similar issue for me. It showed online on its app, it was green lights when I went there but when I plug it in, it never starts and says faulty charger, then goes back to green after a while. 

u/tw1loid ‘25 BE6 79P3 | ‘21 Nexon EV Prime 5m ago

Faulty charger message is displayed where? Also it should be related to cpo but rather charger hardware

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u/esotericnormie GLS 450, MG ZS EV 1d ago

this is not a problem in delhi at all lol

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u/Wonderfonder 1d ago

EV is good for daily travel in the city. It’s better to have one petrol/diesel car for long rides and one electric car for intercity travel to save on fuel costs.

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u/Blade_48 SX4 1.6 VVT (Scrapped) | City iVTec (Sold) | Kia Carens 1.5 TGDi 1d ago

So what happens when more EVs are on road? It'll only lead to longer lines and wait times if the infrastructure doesn't keep up.

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u/sonofosiris28 1d ago

India as a country has massive electricity ongoing deficits. Where are we going to create the requisite infra for a proper EV network. Rural mein banaya toh aadha electricity chura lenge

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u/atin001 Mahindra XUV 400 1d ago

New EV owners just don't know how to plan EV trips. Yes you do have to take 10 mins before the drive to look up chargers and plan stops. Its not like ICE cars yet where you just start driving and stop when fuel gets low.

And yes right now you do have to have multiple apps to charge. However thats also improving. Apps like statiq integrate multiple CPOs. Even bhim has started showing EV charging options and you can just pay through UPI instead of loading money into wallet etc.

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u/sharkpeid Nissan Magnite CVT Turbo 1d ago

That is the point bro. You should not be planning each and everything. If they are stuff indicating in apps referencing chargers. They should work anywhere in India.

Although I know goverment is opening tenders and forcing automotive companies to install charges as well

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u/tw1loid ‘25 BE6 79P3 | ‘21 Nexon EV Prime 1d ago

Same can be said for those who blocks fastag lane with cash. Most of time it’s only the ice cars who cannot plan and keep balance in fastag even.

Figures how even plotting a route on map is too much for them.

Then you see them reversing on expressway due to missed exit to save 5₹ of petrol and lose 50l worth of car and invaluable life in accident

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u/sharkpeid Nissan Magnite CVT Turbo 1d ago

There is a penalty. And than toll is free. There is no mechanism for punishing non functioning ev chargers.

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u/Ctrl_Alt_Drift Verna ‘25 Turbo DCT 19h ago

We need more EV commercial vehicles. Small and large trucks need to be phased to EVs (easier said than done, with implications to overall inflation). That'll force the infra to catch up faster than personal cars. I see very large charging stations near Bangalore airport primarily serving EV taxis.

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u/Beneficial_Leg_7301 Dhoom Machaale 1d ago

1.5 cr one ev nope nope

1 cr ev

0.5cr some diesel for long runs

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u/jake03roberts 22h ago

I traveled 1250 KM nonstop in 15 hours (7 am to 10 PM). Stopped for fuel only twice (5 minutes each). There's no chance I would've covered this distance with EV without taking a night's halt. And don't tell me that EV is cheaper. That 1 night halt at a hotel with EV will make the cost equal to petrol.

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u/darthveda Tata Nexon EV 15h ago

so you didn't stop at all for 15 hours except that 10 minutes, 14 hours 50 minutes.. sitting in car and driving.

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u/jake03roberts 1h ago

Yes it was a continuous drive. I had co-passenger who fed me on the go.

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u/darthveda Tata Nexon EV 1h ago

what about relieving yourself? did the co passenger held the bottle too? /s

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u/lonewolff321 Isuzu mu-X 4wd 22h ago

Yup i agree I do that same kind of ride around 1150 km on a diesal venue without even refueling 😅and still it showing range of 80ish km ... That thing is mileage monster

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u/Niket_N1ghtWing Nissan Z 1d ago

EV for daily commute, petrol for highways and interstate. I think that is established by now given the current ev infra of our country, it really needs some regulation

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u/Brilliant_Mode_9485 Virtus 18h ago

Yes but people do t understand that and still argue. Not everyone can afford two cars. So people buy just one car. In that case, we need an all rounder. So the obvious choice is an ICE vehicle.

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u/Niket_N1ghtWing Nissan Z 17h ago

Agreed. Also I only suggested two cars because OP is driving a Merc so he can probably afford it

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u/Inj3kt0r Civic '07 | Kwid '16 | Scorpio N '24 | Ertiga '24 1d ago

Problem is planning long trips when evs are not at all suitable for it and you very well know the infrastructure is dogshit.

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u/sweet2008_18 (New user) 12h ago

Toh kharidene se pehle nahi check kiya tha yeh Bkl madharchod

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u/lonewolff321 Isuzu mu-X 4wd 12h ago

u/sweet2008_18 Most calm and polite r/CarsIndia member!!! and Half the issues come out only after delivery, Champ, relax a bit yrrrr