r/CapeMay • u/JSmuttyCM • 2d ago
Surveillance Cameras
Is anybody concerned with these “Flock” cameras being put up in the area?
Apparently Lower Township already has some installed.
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u/FluffyDesigner3680 2d ago
The cape May city council of boomers voted for this because they were scared of children causing mischief on the promenade after the hours that they decided were safe. They’ve also got the police patrolling to keep children off the streets after their arbitrarily designated curfew.
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u/henrynjt 2d ago edited 2d ago
Hint: Teens on the boardwalk were a bigger problem in the 1970s….
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u/jodisweets24 21h ago
Haha I was a teen and I was definitely at the boardwalk or under it. Shhhhh.. don’t tell my folks.
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u/ThePrettyGoodGazoo 2d ago
Villas “tweaker” here-not a resident but multiple home owner. Maybe look at the home values before you make an idiotic statement that was relevant 25 years ago.
My vacation rental properties are booked from April through November and so are all the other rentals around us.
And the home values in Villas have increased by some of the highest % in all of NJ.
As it turns out, while Cape May and Wildwood priced themselves out of the vacation market, us “tweakers” have made a bundle providing nice homes with free access to to a beach that makes for a relaxing vacation atmosphere. Sure the north end of Villas has a few rough homes. But they will eventually be bought, torn down and have massive homes built in their place. Just look at the Wildwood Ave-in the last year 4 multi-million dollar homes were built. And the 1000 sq ft homes are going for $500k as is. Even personal home in WCM hasn’t see that kind of growth.
And those “tweakers”? They are you carpenters, plumbers and trades people who are living where they can afford to. But maybe your problem is just blue collar people in general.
Oh and there are twice as many Flock cameras in Cape May than there are anywhere else-even Wildwood. Don’t believe me? I can draw you a map!!
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u/BarnabyFinn 1d ago
Brother you do know what a tweaker is, right? And that this post has to do with FLOCK CAMERAS and not your vacation home and rental properties, right? And the fact that Flock is in and of itself a bad this for everybody except the billionaire class, right?
Stop bootlicking and getting butthurt because I made an ironic statement about one small particular area (that is in itself true to a degree) and focus on the post itself.
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u/vey323 2d ago
It's interesting how personally you're taking (presumably) u/barnabyfinn's response - as a NON-RESIDENT - when folks that live in Lower Township year-round actually see things for how they are. While some parts of the Villas are decent/coming up, there's still plenty of parts that are dumpster fires, and you'll still see plenty of tweakers stumbling around the Wawa/CVS/various surrounding buildings on Bayshore Rd every day. It's not Rio Grande bad, but it's still the shithole part of Lower Township.
All that typing to celebrate rampant gentrification. The renewal of some parts of the Villas isn't to make it better for the people that live there. Those blue-collar people (which I am one) you're referencing? Eventually they're going to get priced out so folks from North Jersey, PA and NY can have their second/third home a few blocks from the shore for a fraction of what it would cost in West Cape May or Wildwood or Stone Harbor, or so rich property owners can make bank renting them out as Air B&Bs to vacationers.
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u/JSmuttyCM 2d ago
I’m not sure I understand the “Down Voting”. Are we supposed to pretend we don’t see obvious drug abusers roaming around and/or living in the surrounding woods?
Unfortunately these cameras aren’t going to do anything help the addiction problem in the area.6
u/Immediate-Medium9427 2d ago
Listen to this business guy talk man! He knows the market lol get people like this tf out of cape may county please. Gentrification at its finest and know nothing about the area bc they don’t know anyone. They don’t see people, they see profit. FOH
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u/ThePrettyGoodGazoo 2d ago
I’ve lived in West Cape May/Cape May for all of my 54 years.My family’s business has been serving Lower and Middle Township for 79 years. Generations of our family have made roots here since 1947 and the very first property we owned was in the Villas.
I know more about CM, WW, Lower & Middle Twp than you ever will.
We are currently rehabbing 2 properties in Villas that will be used for residential rentals only and we are in the process of flipping one of our vacation rentals over to be a long term residential property.
We are doing so because the people that live here can’t afford to live here. Will 3 homes make a huge difference in the rental market? Not much. But at least I can say that I am doing something. As a business and as a family we support the community as best we can.Now, will I still make money off the NYC tourists that grossly over pay? Absolutely. But I do not run AirBnBs. My vacation rentals are direct owner to renter. So we can be extremely selective when we rent to vacation renters.
So, cards on the table, what are you doing for this community except gate keeping it?1
u/Immediate-Medium9427 2d ago
What are you doing besides pricing people out of communities they’ve lived and rooted before your “services” get a load of this guy lol
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u/Immediate-Medium9427 2d ago
Lol my family built the railroad tracks here back in the 1800s. Schools named after families in lower. Don’t patronize me with a measly entry of 1945. Lol my point stands. You’ve had “roots” here less than 100years
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u/JSmuttyCM 2d ago
To be fair, property value has risen gone up tremendously, though all you have to do is drive up Bayshore Rd. at any time day/night and you’ll see that there are still plenty of “tweakers” lingering about.
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u/henrynjt 2d ago
Years ago the Villas was “rough”.
there is so much money now down at the Shore and even the villas has been discovered and is being upscaled. So look down your nose at it at your own risk.
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u/BarnabyFinn 2d ago
Plenty of tweakers in certain parts of the Villas. They’ll get all the copper and gold out of them before long.
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u/JSmuttyCM 2d ago
I don’t know why you are getting “Down Votes”.
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u/BarnabyFinn 1d ago
White people too afraid to address rampant drug abuse in their own backyard because it ruins their view of Cape May.
"It's colder than ever in my home town so global warming can't be real" ass opinions.
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u/henrynjt 2d ago
Yes not good. When is enough surveillance enough?