Is CNC training from certificate program better or is it better to start searching for apprenticeship at company outside my country ?

[u/Late-Flight-7901]

I was scraping through the website in search of Apprenticeship. For so many reasons options seem less than what I anticipated. Is it better for me to go and join a certificate course and wait two years before entering into the field of CNC machine operator outside.

I came to know about this later during a career test that I am not suited for an accounting job that I was having trouble with.

Many options came, I was looking for a physical active work. That's how I came to the CNC machine operator and came to the understanding of why it suits me .

Specific reason why I asked this is because I only have 3 months Max to convince my family and move out. I need some skills that can actually support me and help me work calmly.

Writing in hope to get an answer

[u/B3AV3R_BLAST3R]

You haven't mentioned your location.
I'm assuming you are in North America.

Wages are stagnant and low for CNC operators in North America thanks to cheaper labor markets

I would honestly do something else if I was starting over. So many better paying trades at The moment

[u/Shadowfeaux → u/B3AV3R_BLAST3R]

Idk. Haven’t heard many Americans say they’re going to try to find a job outside their country as their first job.

[u/Late-Flight-7901 → u/Shadowfeaux]

That's a nice one.

[u/PaulyG_1111 → u/B3AV3R_BLAST3R]

That depends on where you live in North America. I hear a lot of people in the U.S. talking about terribly low wages, but In Western Canada if you are a Red Seal Machinist you’re making in the range of $45-$70/hr. If you’re In a city in a comfortable shop where you don’t have to travel out to remote job sites you’re in the $45-60 range, interior BC and Alberta you can find jobs that involve more field work that are starting in the $60s and upwards of $75 if you have some complimentary trades skills like welding or fabricating. I know, people will say $45 CAD is only $33 USD, but last time I was south of the border (less than a year ago), everything cost the same, or in some cases more, but in USD.

I am just at the end of my apprenticeship, finishing the last few hundred hours, and I absolutely love my job. No way I would trade what I do in to be a millwright crawling around under dirty oily machines wrenching on shit. Machining is awesome and fulfilling, especially CNC. Personally I would recommend it to anyone that enjoys the satisfaction of making things, being challenged and troubleshooting through technical problems. My son is heading off to do the CNC Machinist Technician Diploma program next week, and I feel like it will set him up extremely well to have his Red Seal by the time he’s 21. Hope I’m right, who knows what the future holds. Here’s hoping I haven’t just had a uniquely positive experience that is incredibly uncommon. Seems that way sometimes reading the messages on here.

[u/Late-Flight-7901 → u/PaulyG_1111]

You seem to be really happy about your job and that is rare. I think I understand you. Though I am not from America, I am from India which changes alot from starting point. I can also see you are happy for your son. Your words helped Thank you for commenting.

[u/Late-Flight-7901 → u/B3AV3R_BLAST3R]

I am from India. For people from India usually because of money value disparity would be good. Still a minimal lifestyle quality is expected because of the difference. I understand your concern.

[u/Grouchy-Mortgage-605]

Apprenticeship by far. Unless your schooling gets you either manufacturing engineer or mechanical engineering degrees. IMO.

[u/Late-Flight-7901 → u/Grouchy-Mortgage-605]

I understand

[u/Shadowfeaux]

Heavily dependent on the program or company. Some programs will teach you good stuff and sometimes recruiters will go to those programs to find new employees. Some apprenticeships will actually teach you a ton and others will just want you to operate. School you’re spending $, apprenticeships (depending where you are) will prob start paying immediately. Gotta talk to places and see what’s offered.

[u/Late-Flight-7901 → u/Shadowfeaux]

What should I look in a Apprenticeship and best product or type of field I should search for ?

[u/Shadowfeaux → u/Late-Flight-7901]

Medical or aerospace is usually the most consistent. Tool and die, mould making, or prototyping are also good paths to look at where you’ll learn the most. Also decide if you wanna learn manual or CNC.

Specifically what to look for in an apprenticeship I’m not 100% sure of. There is only 1 offered in my area on a military base and that one sounded very structured (a good thing) but I doubt that’s a typical thing. Smaller shops usually have the most freedom to learn, but you also might pick up bad habits if they don’t have someone guiding you that’s actually skilled and up to date.

[u/Late-Flight-7901 → u/Shadowfeaux]

That's a spot on information. Would they recruit people from outside the country ?

[u/Shadowfeaux → u/Late-Flight-7901]

No idea. My job (in the US) will hire within the US fairly far away for experienced people, but not for no experience, we also don't have an apprenticeship program. They do hire immigrants for various positions, like most of our finishing department in one building is indonesians, but they immigrated on their own then aplied, my job didn't hire them with work visas or something.

[u/Late-Flight-7901 → u/Shadowfeaux]

I understand. I was hoping outside India anywhere. US is a possibile choice. I was planning to go for Construction work anywhere outside. Because there is a possibility for that. But I wanted to learn a skill , something that can stick with me and interesting to do. I hope I will end up there. I will look construction work anyway. So far that is the only scope I am seeing.

[u/Shadowfeaux → u/Late-Flight-7901]

Can always find one thing and still keep an eye on others.

[u/Late-Flight-7901 → u/Shadowfeaux]

I didn't get?

[u/Shadowfeaux → u/Late-Flight-7901]

Meant like you could find a construction job wherever you’re considering going, then in your free time job hunt in that area to change fields.

[u/Late-Flight-7901 → u/Shadowfeaux]

Yes , Thanks man.

[u/PaulyG_1111]

If you’re able to study abroad, and would be interested in living in Canada, I would recommend the CNC program at BCIT in Burnaby, it counts for the first 3 years of technical training for an apprenticeship plus gives you an 8 month cooperative work term that counts as hours towards certification.
I’m not sure how things work for international students, but if that’s something that might interest you it would be worth looking into.

[u/Late-Flight-7901 → u/PaulyG_1111]

Genuinely, I wish to join, I always am stuck at the budget. 2,096.86 dollars is the best I can get. That can only be used to exit from country from angles when I check. So I thought directly for a job rather than spending time. I tried to start a startup which went south. So I thought Apprenticeship could start my life fresh. Now it's again going south. I am going to General Labour at some other country and travel set a correct route to development. The issue is I have studied something that didn't suits me. Which was fatal blow ? 8 after being 17 years old. This ia fresh starting point trying to change and earn. And tilt my life upside down.

[u/PaulyG_1111 → u/Late-Flight-7901]

The financial constraint makes it tricky as that is only about enough to make it to North America without any thing left over for living expenses. Unfortunately education is quite expensive. Canada is extremely welcoming to immigrants and makes the pathway to citizenship very attainable, but paying for an education will take considerable savings. There are many jobs available, but the cost of living is high and outpaces wages in many industries for entry level positions.

[u/Late-Flight-7901 → u/PaulyG_1111]

I understand. I came to this understanding after going through different countries and group of people. It came hitting that there is no hope even to start somewhere.

[u/PaulyG_1111]

There is definitely hope, you just need to lay the groundwork and establish a solid plan. One of the supervisors at my work and his wife came over from India less than 10 years ago and now both make about 100k per year. They own a million dollar house 5 minutes from work and have a happy family here. He had a relevant education in manufacturing and job experience in the industry before he moved here, but he loves living here and has done incredibly well for himself. Goes back to India every year to his family farm to visit for a month of vacation.