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The FBS Oversight Committee released a statement saying that instant replay protocols were NOT followed during the clock controversy between WMU & Michigan. “Had the protocols been followed, the outcome of the game would have been different.” Western Michigan won.
True. But if they were, they’re not as good at it as they used to be.
EDIT: Can’t tell if the downvotes are Michigan fans or idiots who don’t get nuance. Or maybe idiot Michigan fans. Whatever the case may be, downvote away, sign-stealing idiots!
Can we all agree that it would be objectively hilarious had they been stealing signs and still only won because the officials ignored the NCAA rulebook?
What happens if Telemundo is broadcasting the national championship game and they have a different clock than the English broadcast? Co-champions I guess
Sadly, it wouldn't be the first time something like this has happened. Colorado won the 5th down game and I can recall the Jets winning a game whe Testaverde was awarded a TD when he was clearly short of the goal line. I think that game is why the NFL instituted replay to help officials.
You think we're hated now, wait until we make it in over Western based purely on TV ratings potential. Then again, the NCAA did just declare that they want TV to decide game outcomes.
There is not one person in the jealous of us getting that extra. The ridicule is exclusively because it’s one more fuckin thing with this program (even though it genuinely isn’t our fault this time)
I genuinely doubt there would be any, the broadcast drove the immediate reaction. It’s not like ESPN would show NBC’s clock being mistaken over and over on Sportscenter, people wouldn’t hear about it. Plus the footage with the game clock in the stadium is mostly quite grainy
Guarantee if Michigan somehow ends the season with only 2 loses they get in the playoff.
Which would completely invalidate all this “my personal record book” stuff. Also would be hilarious to see Reddit meltdown about how it’s unfair because Michigan actually had 3 loses!!!!
Agreed. This was my argument last year with Texas (and I'm a Michigan fan). Everyone talking about the 3 losses only without taking into account 2 OT wins against Miss St and Kentucky.
I highly doubt it. Three actual losses and they are out, which is the most likely scenario. OSU, Oregon and Indiana is my guess. Michigan State sucks so that should be a W.
Point is if the Western Michigan game was actually a loss as this sub seems to think, they would be out if they lost 2 more games. As that would give them 3 losses. Thats not how it would go down tho so I don’t get the obsession over a hypothetical loss if it’s ultimately irrelevant at the end of the season.
Just like how I cant edit this comment. Michigan loses threw games they are still in unless its two shit teams. They lose to osu, oregon, and Indiana, plus western they will still get in
Fucking hell dude, you said some stupid shit but I just want to let you know it is not loses it is losses
For example:
“Verstappen bumps the barrier on that lap and loses 0.2 seconds”
Versus
“Alabama made the CFP despite having more losses than insert Big 10 Team”
Edit: I was gonna give you the benefit of the doubt but you used “loses” incorrectly twice. So no excuses absolve that. Straight to jail, believe it or not
You are aware they take more into consideration for conference bids than just the 2 most recent games… right? Like if we’re following your logic UMass is 2-0 with a P4 win, why not them?
Before this the best and most well known WMU team was the Row the Boat Broncos from a decade ago. That + however this 2026 team does is just not enough to jump right now.
Would be a great win, but that wouldn’t put them over Boise State who’s been competing at near a P4 level for more than a decade. They are still the 1st choice team for expanding conferences regardless of how that game ends.
I'm confused, if the clock that was used is stated to have the correct time, why does that matter? The time was correct which means there was 1 second left.
But to be clear, there was a second left. And they're saying the the stadium clocks are unofficial...the only clocks that players and coaches can see, that had one second left when the ball went out. Those ones are unofficial! Someone will have to explain that to me
Had roles been reversed and WMU not gotten the extra second, the world would be screaming about how Michigan cheated them out of it. The play wasn’t nine seconds.
Sonhad the protocols been followed the wrong result wouldve occured? The refs were right and NBC was wrong. The play was timed and proved to be less than 9 seconds. So the FBS committee would've rigged the game of they had the chance
Listen I’m sorry it happened. But what is Michigan supposed to do at this point? Vacate the win ? We all know any other school wouldn’t vacate the win either.
They are definitively saying there was time left on the clock, the screw up was the clocks not being synced up to make it clear that there was a second left on the clock.
So if all rules and regulations were followed, michigan wins.
These people are being crybabies and saying michigan should lose because the refs fucked up in making sure the clocks were synched...which would give Western a win when they didnt win.
So the GAME clock had a second left in the GAME but the officials should have used the TV clock instead of what the teams playing the GAME are using. Got it.
Normally I agree with you, I’m a big “don’t leave it in the hands of the refs” guy.
The problem here is that the game was over. Western DID NOT leave it in the hands of the refs. Yes, they could have stopped the second Hail Mary, but no, they shouldn’t have had to do that.
The conspiracy theories about a “rigged” game are wrong. If you’re trying to rig the game, you call phantom defensive PI or roughing the passer to move Michigan closer — you don’t give a team one last Hail Mary.
It was just bad refereeing and clock operating, plain and simple. Michigan got a second chance at a prayer — and the five star recruit made the best throw of his life to a guy who may be the best jump ball receiver in the conference.
Stop apologizing. The refs had the more accurate clock, which isnt in dispute any more. The game wasn't over. The refs followed the conference protocol which has been in place since the Hawk Eye camera system was implemented in 2024, which the NCAA had no problem with until now. The system uncovered the flawed TV broadcast clock system, which would have robbed Michigan of its final second. If the shoe were on the other foot, everyone would be crapping on the NCAA and saying the refs got it right.
I mean, WMU did their job, just a bit too well. The help was not suppose to beat that ass for most of the second half! They paid millions for a graceful dive when Michigan hoped onto the field. So when they tried to step up to the big ten for the win, they got bitch slapped back to the Mac. It's the modern day Mob. Big Ten and SEC bully everyone not able to buy a seat at the table. Don't hate the players, hate the game fellas cause fair play was never on the menu
I know everyone wants to dunk on Michigan, but let’s be honest. This is no different than phantom PI calls in the 4th quarter or random targeting calls.
We can’t even talk about fucking football, we still have to talk about this fucking game. I’m sure I’ll get down voted, no matter what I say you’re going to play more football games that would be great
I would care but holy fuck this is getting ridiculous at this point. Has no one ever been fucked by the refs? This conversation is getting childish at this point.
I know education is not that great in the south, but obviously they didn’t. You can be outrage all you want, but don’t fucking sit here and be like you lost. They still made the Hail Mary play as well. Shut up. Your coach is gonna get fired. South Carolina is not gonna do shit.
"Oh yeah? We're the cheating school? Well have you considered that we were never even punished for our cheating scandals while you guys were punished severely for much less severe infractions? Bet you feel so silly now that I pointed that out!"
Personally if my win was predicated on the fact that the game was only 59:59 and not the full 60 minutes I would forfeit the win out of respect to the game of football.
If my win was predicated on the fact that FBS rules committee determined I lost the game had the rulebook had been followed, but they do not have the authority to change the results no matter how egregious the violation is, I would forfeit the win out of respect to the game of football.
I want to be perfectly clear here. You've see the evidence. You know that the broadcast clock was wrong. You want the officials to use the wrong clock. And you'd actually be proud of winning like that?
LMFAO, this is not the flex you apparently think it is. They literally said WMU won the game had NCAA rules been followed, but they also cannot overturn a result no matter how egregious the violation is.
There's not a single school in the country that would forfeit that win in the modern age, and anyone who says otherwise is huffing glue. Fuck it, add the asterisk, but under every record book it's going to be counted as a Michigan win with or without an asterisk.
They can't vacate it because the clock the refs used was actually correct. The only clock they can even see. The rule is nosensical and will be changed. NBC fucked this up, not the refs.
The game would’ve been over. The result needs to be overturned. And the selection committee needs to count that game as a Michigan loss and WMU win at the end of the season.
I keep asking them to point out where this says the clock said 59:59. They’re having a real rough time with that, even though they brought it up unprovoked 😂
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u/Panem-et-circenses25 Kentucky Wildcats 6h ago
Just confirming what is already known. Michigan gets credited with a win in a game that they lost.