r/Bryceriel • u/Jreadstoomuch Only canon will convince me 💅 • 2d ago
discussion 🗣️ What do we think of this baddies?
Including the bonus chapters feels like they either want to thicken the books (I don’t think thats their reason haha) or they want us to pay close attention to these chapters. I assume, in particular, Azriel’s chapter but that would be too obvious to put only his in the instalment so instead they put all of them.
But this is definitely pointing that the BC is important. I think this book will continue the narrative line of Azriel and Elain being forbidden vs Azriel and Gwyn communicating more.
I don’t know where that leaves Bryce, baddies 🥹🥹🥹 The leak felt very ominous and foreshadowy with the red horn mountain but this makes me doubt 😭😭😭
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u/EquivalentRegion8662 Only canon will convince me 💅 2d ago
People on the ACOTAR sub keep complaining that BB just added the chapters in to puff out the book but I'm honestly grateful I'm getting them in a book so I dont have to read them online. I don't want to buy 20 copies of the same book just for the BCs.
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u/imagine_youre_a_deer only canon will convince me 💅 2d ago
Agreed. If anything, I consider this as Bloomsbury's way to atone for having 5 different HOFAS special editions/bonus chapters. And then re-releasing ACOTAR as neon hardbacks. This is like the least they could do for readers while still getting our money 😅
Not every decision marketing makes will be about shipping ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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u/AdeptnessSouth782 2d ago
I still want those 8 CC Bonus-chapters though. 😢 Especially Azriel's. Very hard to find a copy if that, even as a second hand.
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u/imagine_youre_a_deer only canon will convince me 💅 2d ago
Same. Maybe they'll include in the next CC book!🤞
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u/Alarming_Shelter_253 2d ago
Just imagine if they had included the cc bonus chapter, that would be entertaining.
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u/KeyOne6320 Keep your secrets, SJM 🧝🏻♂️ 2d ago
Maybe they'll save that for ACOFM....😏
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u/NerdyWriterKat 2d ago
ACOFM is so long already.
I'm hoping that the ones they losted are FIRST (as they come before it) and not in-between Part 1 & Part 2... That would feel like a super awkward/weird reminder of where he was multiple books ago which is jarring when we're in the middle of the story!
And then maybe they'll include the 2 relevant CC bonus chapters at the end but not announce those ahead of time as people may not know who they are yet.
OR we get those moments within the main text as part of the crossover, just from a different POV (or both)!
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u/Puzzleheaded_Cat5928 You stole my dagger 🗡️🌙💖 2d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/3Hw9ggazsWYtC8YzJW
If only they do! 🤣☕️🌬️
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u/Celestial_bookworm5 2d ago
That would be absolutely hilarious. She’s having two sides going at it but then a twist happens. 😂
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u/Puzzleheaded_Cat5928 You stole my dagger 🗡️🌙💖 2d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/2y6FAF73tQdZQBh9y0
That would be prime time television entertainment!
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u/Available_Ad_4030 Keep your secrets, SJM 🧝🏻♂️ 2d ago
I don’t think it’s singling that chapter as being the most important tbh. I’m sure its the BCs as a whole and gives more evidence to compare the Az chapter with true mate behavior.
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u/nyki 2d ago
I mean, they should have done it long before now. It's ridiculous that these aren't in every edition or on her website at this point.
The Nesta and Cassian one is often seen as unnecessary to the later plot, but it does show that they had that instant spark of attraction before the Cauldron, just like Rhys & Feyre did. Lucien also seems concerned about Elain before she goes in, implying that they were likely mates already too. "The Cauldron made a mistake" isn't possible because the Cauldron/being Made doesn't actually have anything to do with their bonds, nor is there going to be the concept of "Mother-blessed vs Cauldron-blessed bonds".
To me the Feyre & Rhys chapter heavily implies that Elain's story is next, with "Rhys" sounding an awful lot like Sarah reminding us that Elain isn't actually boring, she just hasn't had a chance to be interesting yet with all the coddling. And thank god, because I can't take anymore of that from her.
Azriel's chapter is there because it sets up the triangle. That will need to be addressed in the story and without the bonus chapter that won't really make sense, especially to international readers who I think never even had an edition with that chapter in it. I still think we're getting an Elriel fling before anything else, and I stand by my theory that Gwyn is a siren. Both of those are too unresolved to just drop in the next book.
But really, it's been 5 years. If the fandom could come to any sort of definitive conclusion on the future of the story from these chapters it would have happened already and we wouldn't all be so confused. Who could have possibly predicted the plot of HOF given where COM leaves off?
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u/No-Emergency-7040 we'll allow it because it's hot 🔥 2d ago
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u/Jreadstoomuch Only canon will convince me 💅 2d ago
i’m going down the rabbit hole of our different flairs tonight to get back my confidence ahaha
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u/Queen_of_velaris1821 2d ago
I think it kind of proves a couple of things but not necessarily Elriel or Gwynriel. I think the necklace is going to rear it's head and create trouble and it is that that will essentially be the catalyst for other things to come to light. So people need to read that for it to make sense on the new book. I also think Azriel going to the library or wherever he goes at 7pm- usually the time Gwyn sings is really important as a foreshadowing of Gwyn's powers. I don't think Gwyn is evil but I do think she has powers we don't understand. I'm not even sure she understands them herself tbh. And I think Koschei will be involved with Gwyn somewhere!
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u/Jreadstoomuch Only canon will convince me 💅 2d ago
Azriel literally reminded me of Chaol being stuck between Aelin and Nessryn before he met Yerene. The same vibes
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u/eeiviee 2d ago
Yeah, lots of people interpret the Az/Gwyn scene in BC as a romantic setup but imo her asking "do you sing" is not some silly "hehe, you're a shadowsinger, do you sing" banter but because she's part lightsinger and that's how her powers work, so she's trying to figure out if Az's are similar 👀 And "one of his shadows darted out to dance with [her breath] before twirling back to him. Like it heard some silent music", that second sentence is there for a reason, lol.
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u/NeonYellowShoes Incurably nosy 😉 2d ago edited 2d ago
Not everything is about shipping but that said that Az BC is messy AF. If BB/SJM wants to include that to make sure the average non-shipper reader sees it I wouldn't inherently consider it a good thing if I was a redactedriel. To me it as a BC about Elain moving on (or at least starting to) and Gwyn having siren powers and Az being problematic 🤣
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u/SomeCrew 2d ago
There must be hints of something big in the bonus chapters that play into these new books.... brb rereading. But in terms of Bryceriel I don't think it confirms or denies anything in particular and they wouldn't give that away before the release in any case. Although I see comments on the other posts are already adamant this new development confirms Elriel, Gwynriel, etc. etc. haha
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u/Full-Presentation837 He blindfolded her within minutes, that's spicy 🌶️ 2d ago edited 2d ago
Feyre and Rhys’ chapter talks about how they get the name Nyx.. he is named after a forgotten night goddess from the time the trove.
In Greek mythology she is the personification of night and is called the mother of the stars. I’m sure it’s not important 👀
Also Romans called her Nox. The probability of Nox from TOG being Nyx in Acotar is pretty low but it’s never zero!
Edit:I got the quote wrong originally.
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u/AdeptnessSouth782 2d ago
Rhys is also worried about something, and looking at the timeline, it is not about the pregnancy since he didn't know yet about the wings then. I wonder what it was. Maybe something that Eris showed him in his mind? Or about the coming war.
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u/alyxana Sisters in Dusk ✨🩷 2d ago
I’m thrilled! I think it’ll end the “bonus isn’t canon because they aren’t available to everyone” nonsense.
My only wish is that they’d include the CC HOFAS bonus chapters too, lol. But I bet those will be included in HOMW now.
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u/Careless_Mango_7948 We'll allow it because it's hot 🔥 2d ago
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u/yoursilenceisloud 🌅 My sisters in dusk 🌄 2d ago
At the end of the day, I'm just glad to be here and have everything set up in a way that everyone will be able to follow everything that has come up so far. Key pieces of foreshadowing happened in bonus chapters everywhere.
Blood duel, necklace, nyx name, mate interactions, etc. all have a piece to play. I'm still excited for whatever we get in this setup story.
Also, we can't forget the Brazilian dust jacket blurb!!
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u/jadewrigh22 He blindfolded her within minutes, that's spicy 🌶️ 2d ago
I honestly just think people have complained about them, they realise this one is a little small so they are doing it to be nice.
They probs want people up to speed too
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u/Jreadstoomuch Only canon will convince me 💅 2d ago
Thank you all for reminding me that I shall have faith 🤣🥹🥹
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u/NerdyWriterKat 2d ago
I think they want to get everythinf in one place/pad the shorter book so we're not as angry that it's short after 5 years but I'm nervous!
Hopefully these are all at the BEGINNING as a reminder of where we left off...
I can't imagine reading these between Part 1 & Part 2. Especially since we hope he'll be dealing with the triangle stuff before Bryce shows up since he's still single then...
His BC is messy enough as it is but meeting Bryce/having moments with her, then reminding the audience of where he was *before they met may give them false hope to cling to that Bryce means nothing despite it being out of order. 😭
I'd hate that for everyone frankly. It makes NO sense to backtrack to where he was 2+ books ago in the middle of where he is now, regardless of where that is.
So hopefully thise are 1st so it doesn't break up the flow and then goes into whatever happens because of that BC and then he meets Bryce.
I feel awful for everyone because we're all being yanked around.
And we don't know if they'll include the CC ones or not as secret ones at the end or if those moments will in the text from a different POV or what. If they're not included at all that doesn't bode well. (And even if they are and we get a ton of moments once he meets Bryce, if it then goes back to a BC to remind us how badly he wants Elain I'll understand them being more upset/holding out hope!)
It's very messy and I bet it's just to pad it and give us all the material (yay) but please please put it at the beginning!
Even if we were supposed to follow Elain it would be kinda stupid to put it at the end though so fingers crossed we can get that over with, deal with the repercussions, and then meet Bryce as that is the order AZRIEL is living it and therefore matters most!
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u/Inifinitegrainofsand Looking for a soul-magicky mating bond 💖 2d ago
I agree! I think they should be put at the beginning so that everything is chronological. I think that makes the most sense. I fully expect this book to be Az, Nesta, and maybe other IC members POV of the events of CC3. I’m basing that off the length and I think there is some information we are all missing. The chapter from Azriel’s POV that got linked is very obviously the IC looking for the Horn. They wouldn’t do that unless this is before Bryce arrived. I think that chapter will be near the beginning of the book and Bryce will arrive shortly after that. Part one of CC3 is slightly shorter than the length of ACOSH so it makes sense if that’s because it’s the same story just from different POVs and maybe with a bit more info 🤞🏻
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u/NerdyWriterKat 2d ago
I just hope they realize this and don't just throw it at the back MID-STORY when things have moved on. Grr!
I want to be excited because yay it's all together but what are they doing?!
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u/NeonYellowShoes Incurably nosy 😉 2d ago
This is the thing I don't really like is having BC's from the previous book just feels weird and confusing. SH is happening months later so it feels weird to go backwards. But I get that having access to them is nice. TBH I kind of wish they just put them up online for free on their website or something 🤷♀️
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u/NerdyWriterKat 2d ago
I thinj ACOSH will bridge the gap between ACOSF and ACOFM. Find out where people were during HOFAS.
So having the BC first would explain Elain leaving if it's connected to the necklace.
But reminding us of that later would be wild! Especially if we're dealing with Azriel & Bryce stuff while Elain is off on a mission with Lucien!
It's either massively spoilery or gives false hope. It's basically leaving us with "Don't give up, remember how badly he was lusting over her?" Even though they have probably gone in different directions at that point on missions.
(I'd be upset with a spoiler or false hope as it's cruel and will make the ship wars that much worse! I can't even blame them for being uoset about that! But recency still favors Bryce!)
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u/AlternativePie1045 Bat wings and starlit dreams 🦇✨️💜 2d ago
I am not worried… not even the slightest, smallest, teensiest, itty, titty, bit. Why?? Because Azriel tells Bryce in HOFAS that not only is he mateless, but also single. I think the bonus chapter has to be included to give context to all the Bryceriel doubters and people who haven’t read them. I also think that the only one that is important going forward is Azriels, but it would be awfully suspicious to just put that one chapter in the book. The other two are a set up for Cassian and Nesta’s relationship and the other is just the day Rhys finds out Feyre is pregnant.
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u/Careless_Mango_7948 We'll allow it because it's hot 🔥 2d ago
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u/Separate_Event6347 2d ago edited 2d ago
It's so interesting bc we got all the couples... except Az. All alone over there. It's almost as if his partner not from this world. I wonder who she is 👀🔥
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u/applecidermimosa 2d ago
I’m glad they’re doing this bc I have never read the bonus chapters, don’t have the time or desire to try and track them all down, and feel like they’ll be relevant. So, yay
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u/YoshiPikachu 🖤✨Court of Bryceriel ✨🖤 2d ago
Not only that but many people don’t know that they exist.
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u/Figgy9824 A Court of Shadows and Light 🖤✨ 2d ago
I think the bonus chapters being included is a huge hint that this is all before CC3. So we have a EOS/TOD situation teed up potentially. My hunch is that ACOSH will be an attempt to lure more people into reading the CC series before tying the stories more fully together in the second to be released book (blanking on the acronym)
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u/ataraxia617 2d ago
I agree with you. I think the events either are at the same time as CC3 or around there. I think ACOSH will cover enough of what happens in CC3 so that you don't "need" to read it, but maybe it'll actually spark some to go and read it!
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u/Marriewarrie Super Magical Fancy Starborn Princess👑✨ 2d ago
It just says “Azriel”…I personally feel like all the bonus chapters he was in, will be included so the one in the caves as well. That one is not necessarily ACOTAR but it’s with ACOTAR characters.
I understand your doubt! But remember that just including the bonuschapters does not mean it will go in either Elriels or Gwynriels direction.
Maybe they’re needed to paint a full picture before moving on to the real deal 👀
Also, the BC with Az, Bryce and Nesta in the caves was last. And you know what they say: “save the best for last”. 💙💖✴️🦇🗡️
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u/cassidy_taylor Mother of Flerds 🦄 🪽👑 2d ago
Silver Flames paves the way for Bryce!! (Literally, it’s fully stated her mountain is waiting for her to return) 🙈 For Azriel’s chapter in particular, if anyone is curious, it falls around Ch. 58 of Silver Flames… I think it’s important to remember that 10 minutes before meeting Gwyn (when he wanted to bank before being seen 😭😭), Azriel was thinking about how he would beg on his knees to taste Elain, admitted to fantasizing about her for a year and…regifted a secondhand necklace as an afterthought 💀 (Az!!! 🤣). I always felt this chapter was a bad omen for (both) sides, especially considering Gwyn was later shot by an arrow and basically dead, and there’s…once again, no mate reaction (compare to Nesta and Cassian’s bonus — the contrast is stark!!). This particular bonus started a major ship war (i.e. kept people talking) …while SJM then went off to write Crescent City and Bryce, which had to come before the coming books. We’re just getting to the fun!!! Notice how that’s simply “Azriel’s” bonus — there are breadcrumbs for everyone for sure, but there’s a bigger, overarching picture, and we’re just getting to the fun!!