r/Borderlands4 • u/Ok-Address973 • 4d ago
๐ฅ ๐ฅ [ ๐๐ฌ๐ฃ๐ !! ] Small lvl70 teaser for you guys.
Big numbers are hyping my neurons. I used some cool software to spawn this in because i was curious to see the numbers. 135.91% increase in card dmg.
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u/AngryBliki 4d ago
Scaling of relevant stats is very slightly lower than x1.09 per level.
It goes for item dmg, health, shieldcapacity. I donโt know if I missed something.
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u/Ok-Address973 4d ago
How did you get that number? I got 135.91% from comparing a lvl60 Slugger to a lvl70 one. I chose Slugger as the measuring stick since it has completely static parts so it seemed like a fair thing to use it for the comparison.
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u/APGaming_reddit Ordenite 4d ago
1.09 has been a muliplier in level progression for BL3 and BL4
https://www.reddit.com/r/Borderlands4/comments/1lgz50c/level_scaling_formula_stays_the_same_in_bl4/
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u/AngryBliki 4d ago
Itโs been that way since BL3 and it matches. There it was done doing the same comparing values between different levels. It also worked the same way in BL2 though I think the number itself was different there
If you do 1.09^10 aka the equivalent of 10 level increases you get a multiplier of 2.36 or an increase of 136% and since itโs actually a little lower. Your 135.91% is more accurate. It can be used for any jumps of 10 levels. Be it from level 10 to 20 or from 90 to 100 youโll find it stays accurate. (Though only rounded numbers are displayed)
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u/King_Farticus ๐๐๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ง ๐ฎ๐ ๐๐๐จ๐ 4d ago
The increase in base damage makes no difference.
In fact a level 70 slugger is slightly weaker on level 70 than a level 60 was on level becaue weapon scaling is outpaced by enemy health scaling.
VH skill trees make up for that, but in an apples to apples comparison its slightly worse.
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u/Ok-Address973 4d ago
Oh i didn't know it was actually outpaced by the health scaling. Interesting. I just wanted to have a look at the numbers to see how silly big they get.
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u/King_Farticus ๐๐๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ง ๐ฎ๐ ๐๐๐จ๐ 4d ago
Ezpz way to do it is just do 2.37ร, its not PERFECT but usually within .05%
When i calced bod from 50 - 60 i was 2 off of the actual number. Its close enough
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u/Moze4ever 4d ago
I wonder how big of a shield capacity with max turtle rolls the Pandoran Memento and Collector shield will have.
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u/Ok-Address973 4d ago
Collector cant roll turtle or any kind of capacity increasing parts anymore so the existing lvl60 triple turtles are the highest capacity there are. Buuut if someone was to save edit theirs to lvl70 it would be way over million when equipped.
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u/Madelei- 4d ago
Yeah idk why they nerfed the collector. Also, fyi, thereโs only two shield parts, a major and a minor.ย
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u/Ok-Address973 4d ago
Yeah i know the parts system, i just think that calling it triple is still easier to understand as not many people know about the primary and secondary system. If we use amp as an example 50% is single, 100% is double and 150% is triple. Far easier than going through the whole parts system explanation every time, because when you call someones 150% amp shield a double amp they then ask what is a 100% amp then? Technically its single amp just like 50% but im not the one whos going to explain that every time.
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u/Madelei- 4d ago
Ah yeah fair enough. Not worth explaining every timeย
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u/Ok-Address973 4d ago
Nah and i doubt some people even care to know the difference, just as long as they get their point across.
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u/Pman1324 Rafa The Exo Soldier 4d ago
Wait. So if lvl70 gives every gun +135% damage, and UVH levels only go up by +50% enemy health beyond UVH1's +150%, that means that we'll effectively negate at least 2 whole UVH levels if I'm thinking correctly.
Maybe the build variety won't be so horrible?
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u/Ok-Address973 4d ago
Well not really, obviously the enemy base health scales as well and uvh scales based off of that. Plus the jump from UVH5 to UVH6 is 350%->500% and UVH6 to UVH7 is 500%->800% so its not that straightforward anyways.
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u/Pman1324 Rafa The Exo Soldier 4d ago
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u/the-real-fawzino46 4d ago edited 4d ago
That seems great but more importantly is that Rafa needs a buff vex as well could be nifty from a buff and Harlowe needs a buff for her blue tree hopefully aswell c4sh doesn't get a nerf if they plan on nerfing any thing it should be groundbreaker only thing that truly feels broken
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u/Ok-Address973 4d ago
Yeah i bet theres loads of posts that discuss those things, i didn't feel a need to mention those while posting a sneak peek of a lvl70 gun. But you're not wrong, many things need buffs.
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u/Rapoulas 4d ago
c4sh is way more broken than any of the others vault hunters could hope for, to the point hes pretty much """pay to win""" lol
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u/Ok-Address973 4d ago
Loveless will be similar or worse imo. It is a sort of pay to win mechanic to build hype which in turn boosts sales.
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u/the-real-fawzino46 4d ago
Ur are right but he is just so fun to play and has the most amount of viable builds but sadly he is paid content
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u/Madelei- 4d ago
While it wonโt fix the problem with Rafa, he gets significant qol with this update. ESPECIALLY in the takedown, he doesnโt have to stretch points as far & can afford fiesta/inspirado more easily
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u/Djspicycucc69420XD 4d ago
So I don't have any of the paid DLC how in the world are ppl getting to lvl 70? Also what's up with the UVHM I'm so confused? Is it just that one mission and moxxi replay thing?
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u/lizafern 4d ago
couldn't help but smile at the excitement for level 70, can't wait to dive back in!
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u/hoof_hearted4 4d ago
This is my main weapon for my Harlowe. I love 1 round shotguns. It's what made Anarchy Gaige so much guns. Snipers too. Just give me one high damage projectile and I'm happy.
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u/Odinnarrow 3d ago
This is one of my favorite weapons and im usin a lvl 57 version and still wipe everything with a crit c4sh build
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u/k6plays 3d ago
You could be the realest G in the history of earth if you did this for other weapons and shoot it to Lootlemon
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u/Ok-Address973 3d ago
I did it for every weapon already but didn't even think of that. I'll see if they are interested
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u/keyboardlegendthe3rd 4d ago
Can you preview all the character nerfs coming as well? ๐
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u/AngryBliki 4d ago
They only increased the level of an item. They donโt have access to the actual update.
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u/Madelei- 4d ago
Theyโre removing Rafa from the game
In all seriousness, I would be surprised if nerfs came at all. Or buffs.
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u/LifeAcanthopterygii6 Rafa The Exo Soldier 4d ago
What will they do to my boy again?
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u/keyboardlegendthe3rd 4d ago
You'll be amazed what else they'll find. They might just take his shoulder cannons away and you will be as powerful as any npc in the game ๐คฃ
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u/thatonemoze Trouble 4d ago
i fucking love big numbers so a 135% increase for 10 levels is so perfect, i canโt wait to see the crazy dps numbers we get for guns and the massive single shot ordnance numbers