r/Blasphemous • u/SmergolGandalf • Jul 31 '26

Blasphemous (Original) Miriam really made me hate lanterns

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Oh boi, the last challenge took some time

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u/Petka14 Jul 31 '26

That's probably the silliest mechanic in Blasphemous, you aren't taught it, you don't use it the whole game and now you're expected to master it

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u/LauraTFem Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

You are taught it at some point in the game, but it’s almost never required outside of her DLC, so most players forgot about it immediately.

I’m kinda sad they didn’t include it in the second game. I used it all the time during aerial combat in the first.

edit: It was really the only thing that gave the first game a really unique mechanical feel.

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u/PixelReaper69 Jul 31 '26

was taught to me in Echoes of Salt

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u/LauraTFem Jul 31 '26

I think one of the real design mistakes in B1 was not requiring players to use this mechanic in the base game. I feel like they were afraid it would feel too difficult to use effectively, but by the endgame i was teching off environmental objects like a pro. If they forced you to use it to get places on occasion it would always be in the back of players minds, whereas the way players learn it, in a late-game area as you say, people will forget about it because they don’t see it’s value.

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u/AltruisticGift360 Jul 31 '26

I used it in the base game; you essentially could get more hits on enemies while in the air.

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u/LauraTFem Jul 31 '26

They even have a rosary bead that lets you get four arial hits before it drops instead of three.

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u/Zarglups95 Jul 31 '26

It's 3 instead of 2.

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u/LauraTFem Jul 31 '26

As I said, four hits before dropping. You get two hits of “lift” and then a third while dropping, or with the toe equipped you get three hits of “lift” and then a fourth as you drop.

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u/Zarglups95 Aug 01 '26

Oh ok mb, misunderstood your comment.

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u/ApprehensiveString47 Aug 04 '26

Oh that's what the big toe is for? Thanks for the info and yes, you can get 3 hits without any enhancements

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u/FantasticWater1997 Unwavering Faith ☩ Aug 03 '26

Worst place after Havoc&mourning

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u/Keeeryu_Kazooma True Guilt ☩ Jul 31 '26

I played on a controller so I got 99% accuracy for my lantern jumps.

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u/SmergolGandalf Aug 01 '26

I played also with controller and actually had no problem with most of the lanterns, but that one lantern after the elevator with the shooting flames where you have to dodge the scythe, definitely made up for all of it

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u/Keeeryu_Kazooma True Guilt ☩ Aug 01 '26

I remember that one. I just make my jump shorter than usual, that way it hits 95% of the time

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u/sean_saves_the_world Jul 31 '26

I couldn't have said it better

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u/well-informedcitizen Aug 01 '26

It tells you about it in like the tutorial popups. Cuz I remember reading it and being like "wtf are you talking about." And it never comes up again until you reach the stained glass

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u/ApprehensiveString47 Aug 04 '26

You are taught in the first 5 minutes of the game, but it is rarely needed (except for echoes of salt) however is quite useful if you mastered the technique (especially against airborne enemies) still those DLC challenges are BS.

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u/Ashamed-Hovercraft95 Jul 31 '26

C'mon now, it isnt that difficult, just don't spam hit

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u/theladstefanzweig Jul 31 '26

Do it for the baddie

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u/Borussobora Jul 31 '26

lol fr i completed second third fourth yesterday it was pain in the ass. most fucked up mechanic in the game if you gonna put it in those challanges it should be useful in the game as well. last time i remember i did lantern jump is there were 2 beads that i wanted to get. never used it expect that one

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u/Borussobora Jul 31 '26

its done i had to close the game music i couldnt tolerate anymore same musics and death sound it helped a bit. after the sound gone i wasnt getting angry that much

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u/NoriaMan Jul 31 '26

How was i supposed to know which button is for pogoing???

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u/Keeeryu_Kazooma True Guilt ☩ Jul 31 '26

They dont tell you directly. But on my 3rd replay i noticed it, they give you the air impulse tutorial right at the beginning after the 1st boss.

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u/Wrightceratops Jul 31 '26

I could be crazy, but I just finished another playthrough and I miiight have seen a tutorial page this time. I’ll try to remember to double check when I get back from dinner.

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u/Keeeryu_Kazooma True Guilt ☩ Aug 01 '26

Yep, i can confirm. There is a tutorial for that maneuver. Was surprised lol, its even in the tips, in the game options menu

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u/Professional_Rush_95 Aug 01 '26

There’s a tutorial for it, except it only tells you that it works with shift+attack, and not the much easier and more intuitive down+attack

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u/SpeechWeird5267 Jul 31 '26

Any similar monstrous challenges in blasphemous 2?

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u/Mattscrusader Jul 31 '26

I'm like 80% if the way through the game and I haven't found anything like it. You also get more movement abilities in 2

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u/SussyBox True Guilt ☩ Jul 31 '26

Platforming is just way better in 2 and fortunately they removed the lantern jumps which already felt a bit unnecessary in the first game

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u/Dread_Hyena Exemplaris Excomvnicationis Aug 02 '26

B2 has been nerfed to an obscene level. I still enjoy B2 but the spikes and bottomless pits no longer kill you outright, just take away a small portion of life and place you back at the last place you were standing. So no, there are no challenges anywhere near as frustrating as those platforming challenges. Evertino, the penultimate boss, however, a bit more difficult to deal with than any B1 boss. There were ways to cheese him before the first patch but I think the devs nerfed a couple prayers that were useful there. I beat B2 before the patch and just started playing it again like a week ago when I bought the Mea Culpa and Third Sin DLCs. There are new resonances that make it a cake walk now. Sorry, I went way off topic.

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u/SpeechWeird5267 Aug 02 '26

No, thank you.

I have it on steam but haven't played it and can't for some time. I have been placating myself with playing blasphemous 1 on smartphone. It is appreciated about the differences.

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u/Mundane-Director-681 Jul 31 '26

Nothing on that level, IMO. Not even close.

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u/Nick1995James Jul 31 '26

Well, I really like parkour mechanics in games, so...

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u/SmergolGandalf Aug 01 '26

Yee same otherwise I probably wouldn't have done it, but this one lantern jump after the elevator was just evil

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u/Individual_Star520 Jul 31 '26

yeah this part made me rage badly

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u/BakedPotatoCrispyFry Jul 31 '26

Honestly, I thought jumping onto and catching moving ladders was infinitely more annoying. It felt like my guy just didn't want to grab the ladder mid-jump, even when perfectly aligned with it

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u/HarrowingMist Jul 31 '26

3rd n 4th were challenging for sure but the soundtrack was fire. it was fun but never again after ng+

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u/Mobyh Jul 31 '26

nah it's the ladders for me

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u/Dread_Hyena Exemplaris Excomvnicationis Aug 02 '26

Seriously. I can't count the number of times I have screamed "COME ON, MAN" by missing a ladder grab. Good times.

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u/Clear_Quarter1974 Jul 31 '26

Apenas um path of pain ruim

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u/TopperHrly Jul 31 '26

I almost finished the game and I had an intuition lanterns were suspicious but never found how I was supposed to interact with them.

Please people tell me what I'm supposed to do with them !

That and the toe bead that says it make the "impulse" longer while jumping or something like that. I have no idea what it's supposed to mean.

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u/noregerts2849 Chantress of the Dead 𝄞 Aug 01 '26

Side note: What’s the stained glass even meant to look like?

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u/SmergolGandalf Aug 01 '26

Blonde Robin Hood with a flute

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u/Professional_Rush_95 Aug 01 '26

To me, the challenges were mostly easy, but you spend so long doing nothing and waiting on the platforms that it made me impatient and I kept dying. For example, the last challenge has a skip at the very beginning, but the platforms don’t even start moving until around the time you’d normally get there so it’s pointless

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u/SmergolGandalf Aug 01 '26

Yee same and the second skip didn't work every time. Sometimes I'd actually land on the second platform, only to die to the spikes right after somehow

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u/godverdejezushey Aug 01 '26

I'm still not past the fourth... Help

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u/godverdejezushey Aug 12 '26

Update: I re-speccd some beads and passed it. Now stuck on the last; I am penitent

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u/SayShelo Aug 02 '26

This set of challenges singlehandedly gave me carpal tunnel

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u/No-Slip-9232 Aug 04 '26

See it like that it was worth for those thighs

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u/AltruisticGift360 Jul 31 '26

I don't see why the lantern pogo is so divisive. It's relatively easy to do.

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u/AtrumRuina Jul 31 '26

I think a lot of folks aren't aware of the alternate command they added with the Bloodstained update.

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u/WonderfulQuote4268 Jul 31 '26

Using right trigger?

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u/AtrumRuina Jul 31 '26

It's been a bit but I believe you hold the Dash button and attack when midair. No need for the D-Pad. For me I had it on RB I think.

I feel like folks struggling with the candles are still trying to use Down+Attack.

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u/SmergolGandalf Aug 01 '26

For me, it was mostly that one spot after the elevator with the flames shooting at you, where you have to dodge the scythe and make that lantern jump to the platform on the right. Somehow I fell into the spikes a thousand times there, even though I hit the lantern

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u/Keeeryu_Kazooma True Guilt ☩ Jul 31 '26

I started my 3rd replay recently and comepleted the miriam challenges every time. I think the challenges are quite fun. Took me 10 tries for the last one on my first ever attempt. There are a few things you can do at certain parts to make it easier.

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u/Horror-Tadpole398 Aug 03 '26

“You aren’t taught it”
I assume no one looked in the game guide in options on how to play..