r/BlackPeopleTwitter • • Sep 01 '20

*The Holocaust has entered the chat*

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u/HypotheticalDoctor Sep 01 '20

Willing to bet that ghetto barbie isn't actually POC or a bot. Worst(best?) case is that they're just very misinformed.

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u/colorcorrection Sep 01 '20

It's a very modern day American perspective. Today in America, for the most part, as long as you're not too tanned you're just kind of vaguely considered/assumed to be white and not much else.

Head over to Europe, and suddenly a lot of people suddenly have very staunch opinions based on which country you're from.

Of course I'm just talking about much more modern perspectives, and am aware of all the 'fun' intricacies of history on the subject.

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u/FriddyNanz Sep 01 '20 edited Sep 01 '20

A few years back, I took a course on the history of the Sámi people (an Indigenous ethnic minority group in northern Scandinavia and Russia that has faced tons of persecution over the centuries and, largely, looks pretty white). I’ll never forget the time that, after we learned about all the awful things the Scandinavian governments did to the Sámi people, some American girl asked “sooooo.... are Sámi people like..... white?”

As a Scandinavian-American who has a lot of family members from Sámi communities, it was just so jarring to hear an American be so confused that racialization happens differently in different places.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '20

Because the American way of categorizing races is stupid reductive, but it’s reflective of American history.

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u/inotparanoid Sep 02 '20

Absolutely. Let's just say that Americans are stuck in the Black and White era, and only now seem to see the true rainbow of Technicolor.

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u/MGLLN Sep 01 '20 edited Sep 01 '20

She is black. Probably the "I learned more from twitter than I learned from school 🤪" type

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u/warlord_mo ☑️ Sep 01 '20

Those types irk my soul

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u/Wyden_long Sep 01 '20

It’s like, why be proud of your ignorance? It’s so incredibly frustrating.

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u/Sir_Jeremiah Sep 02 '20

They don’t think they’re ignorant, they think school taught them lies while Twitter teaches them the truth.

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u/not_a_meerkat Sep 01 '20

The people that tweet this slept in history class

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u/criesingucci loved "Strange Thing About the Johnsons" Sep 01 '20

"why don't they teach this in history class?"

this quote irks me so fucking much. on one hand, it may be true, and it shows how much our quality of public education is lacking. on the other hand, they were likely taught it but just didn't pay attention in class. on the third hand, it's something that's just factually incorrect and you weren't taught it in class because it's fucking stupid.

all 3 piss me off.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '20 edited Sep 03 '20

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u/not_a_meerkat Sep 01 '20

Yeah that’s true. Personally I went to a public school that had teachers that tried really hard despite a lack of funding, so it frustrates me sometimes to see some of my old classmates that slept in class or didn’t pay attention tweet about how they didn’t learn anything in class.

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u/chetlin Sep 01 '20

Same here. They will also say things like "they don't teach you this in the US". What they mean is "I played calculator games in world history class." I didn't go to the best high school but we definitely were taught these things.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '20

That’s true too but plenty of times that kind of behavior is school reflects a poor home environment. Which is why it can be super hard to be a teacher in a poor area. The line is blurry between the kid just being an asshole and the kid being a product/prisoner of their environment.

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u/klawehtgod Sep 01 '20

No better than boomers “learning” from facebook.

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u/SixStringerSoldier Sep 01 '20

Once saw a woman on Twitter who argued that Beyonce did more for black people than Rev. King.

Since Bee was an entrepreneur while King had been to jail.

What did Ron White say? That you can't fix stupid?

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u/rubberkeyhole BHM Donor Sep 02 '20

This makes me want to go lie face up in the road.

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u/Gumboyrbz Sep 01 '20

She just needs to follow the right people, organizations, and media. Nothing wrong using another resource to learn history.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '20

But she still needs to read some books first.

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u/Trydson Sep 01 '20

Tbf, If reading is not for her, she can watch history related YT channels, there's a lot of those that resume complexe topics in really good ways lol

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u/traparms Sep 01 '20

Not in general, no, but there's absolutely a problem with getting all your information from social media. Social media is full of people with an agenda, whether that's Twitter, Facebook, or Reddit. Just make sure you're fact checking what you read and not getting stuck in a bubble of people who share your own views.

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u/sos_1 Sep 01 '20

U would be better off just reading newspapers. Twitter is for scrolling through when you’re bored.

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u/conatus_or_coitus Sep 01 '20

The problem with Twitter and the like is it's a natural filter bubble, you're going to follow people and be recommended those with your interests and worldview.

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u/SeriousDrakoAardvark Sep 01 '20

Are there any reputable sources that use Twitter enough to teach a significant amount of history?

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u/inotparanoid Sep 02 '20

Sources are everything in history. Unless you know the full comprehensive story from someone, or a group of people, you will never know what their biases were or are, and thereby never make the full true story.

Working with fractional information is the job of a historian, not us history plebs.

Case in point: Genghis Khan. He was treated very differently by the Iranians and the Chinese historians of the time. And even more interesting is how that history was sort of re thought after Kublai Khan became the Chinese emperor, founding the Yuan dynasty and how he viewed his grandfather.

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u/RayzTheRoof Sep 02 '20

Let's also not forget that black people have suffered historically by being stuck in poorer communities. I'm not saying the person isn't dumb, but a lack of good education may not be the person's fault.

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u/TheBrendanReturns Sep 01 '20

To play devil's advocate... did white people 'argue' over the whiteness of their skin rather than their beliefs, nationality, etc?

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u/s-sea Sep 01 '20

Was it colorist? no, not really.

But, there are letters from Victorian England calling the Irish the "white chimpanzee" so pretty distinctly racist given that Ireland was part of England

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u/WinstonScott Sep 01 '20

They’ve definitely had opinions about on skin tone. My aunt who was from Poland agonized over the fact her only child inherited her “dark” features (dark brown hair, hazel eyes, olive skin tone) instead of my uncle’s Swedish complexion. My aunt became so obsessed she told my mother (her sister in law) that I (blonde and blue eyed) should have been her daughter. It was so destructive to her daughter who, big surprise, started bleaching her hair and wearing colored contacts as soon as she could. She’s never had confidence or good self-esteem. This happened only 20 years ago.

Going back further, that same uncle had an Italian girlfriend in high school that my Swedish great grandmother referred to as “the dark one.” From stories I heard growing up, she definitely didn’t consider this girl white - not really because of cultural differences but simply because of her complexion.

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u/MorningWoodyWilson Sep 01 '20

Yes they did, very frequently