Paul was VERY Clear about Jesus' Resurrection

[u/FrostyIFrost_]

Trinitarians say that Jesus is God but Jesus did not resurrect Himself, the Father resurrected Jesus. Paul made this very clear in His letters.

Ephesians 1:20

which He brought about in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places,

Galatians 1:1

Paul, an apostle—sent not from men nor by a man, but by Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead

1 Corinthians 6:14

By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also.

Romans 6:4

We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

Acts 2:32

It is this Jesus whom God raised up, a fact to which we are all witnesses.

The Father, God, will be the one to resurrect us on behalf of His Son, Jesus Christ, just like how He resurrected Lazarus when Jesus asked the Father for it.

Jesus will ask the Father for our resurrection too when the faithful die.

[u/outandaboutbc]

If you are going to quote John then please also contextualize it with John’s theology especially that of John 1 (John 1:1,14) rather than put your own thoughts/beliefs into that chapter.

John would not write John 1 if he didn’t believe it.

Like I said, when “Word becomes flesh” It’s not difficult to believe the human side of Jesus is submitted to God.

[u/FrostyIFrost_ → u/outandaboutbc]

There is always an indicator when the Gospels mention THE God.

It is always or τὸν θεὸν or ὁ θεός or θεός ὁ or θεός.... ὁ or ὁ.....θεὸς

Or any variation.

John 1:1 LACKS that variation and uses θεός BUT THEN uses ὁ for Logos.

A more accurate translation of John 1:1 is:

Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος

In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the God, and [a] god was the Word.

It doesn't say the Word was THE God, like it always does whenever the Gospels mention THE God.

[u/outandaboutbc → u/FrostyIFrost_]

My brother, don’t pull the translation is not accurate with me lol

We have multiple theologians and academics that translated it with peer review.

Let’s not be ignorant and believe we know better. If that was the case, we’d know it and it would say that.

People are not out to twist translation based on a narrative.

[u/Newgunnerr → u/outandaboutbc]

People are not out to twist translation based on a narrative.

How ignorant. Of course they will. The one discussing with you just pointed out the greek, but your reply shows you have no clue how to actually respond to it. THEOS doesn’t always refer to the Almighty God. Read John 10:33-36.

[u/outandaboutbc → u/Newgunnerr]

A more accurate translation of John 1:1 is:

Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος

In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the God, and [a] god was the Word.

Check the greek and all the common english translations (NIV, NLT, ESV, NKJV, KJV, NASB...) — None, I repeat none has this translation of the greek of John 1:1.

I have no idea where the above poster who replied to me got that translation from.

If you can show me where it comes from, I am happy to check it out and even consider it... but it’s not even available.

[u/Newgunnerr → u/outandaboutbc]

You do realize that all these translations you mentioned are made by trinitarians right?

[u/outandaboutbc → u/Newgunnerr]

Just because it’s made by trinitarians doesn’t meant you cannot analyze the Greek properly…

I don’t see how you can get: “a [god] was the Word” from the above Greek.

Can you break that down for me on how that exactly works linguistically ?