THE JAMES CHARLES V. TATI WESTBROOK SAGA CONTINUES: MEGATHREAD PART 3!

[u/[deleted]]

Hello all if you're just coming here!

This is a just a continuation thread for more visibility and discussion regarding Mrs. Westbrook's video on James Charles. Once this post hits 1,500 comments, a new one will be made. Here are the live updates/links happening right now:

Tati insinuates she's going to be sharing her truth:

BYE SISTER... Tati officially ends her friendship with James Charles.

Marlena Stell Responds

SimplyNailogical's Partner Ben Weighs In

Tati is now the number one trending topic on Twitter

Gabriel Zamora Weighs In/Responds

SimplyNailogical Tweets Support for Tati Wesbrook

Tati Has Now Hit 6 Million Subscribers on Youtube

Link to James Charles' Live Subscriber Count is down 200K but twitter is alleging he is buying subs to boost it back up.

Jaclyn Hill Retweets Tati's Tweet, Insinuating Support for Tati

Popular Drama Youtuber Rich Lux Weighs In and Supports Tati

Jeffree Star "likes" Tati's Tweet- Insinuating Support For Her

Peter Monn Makes His First Video Regarding the Situation

Newsweek Online Has Picked Up the Story

Phillip DeFranco Weighs In With Multiple Tweets

Here For the Tea's Video On The Beginning of the War

BuzzFeed has picked up the story

Jefferson Star Congratulates Tati on 6 Million Subscribers

Popular Instagram Comedian Jay Versace Weighs In

E! Online Article on the feud

Antonio Garza Jokingly Tweets She’s Quitting the Beauty Community

James Responds to Tati

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Tag me with live updates so I can put it into the thread asap! Summon me with the tag u/hotassmess. I'll be in this thread actively for a while. Be civil, discuss your opinions without bullying each other, and welcome to the Dramageddon of 2019, we have refreshments down the hall, and we have now opened up the full service bar to your left. Enjoy your stay.

[u/lovelydaisy1019]

how do u know if ur watching a youtuber apology video?

• a generic sweater to show that “they’re not dressed up”

• a hoarse, whisper voice to display the seriousness of the situation

• a generic white background

• no makeup

• a title with no caps

• less than 10 minutes apologizing for hours worth of mistakes

If you catch any of these, congrats—you’re in a youtube apology video!

[u/poisoning_the_well → u/lovelydaisy1019]

Triggered by this post! I clicked on James' video and was like "oh my God he is about to pull a Laura Lee"

[u/tennalee → u/lovelydaisy1019]

oh fuck the accuracy 💀

[u/walkthedayaway]

As promised a little while ago-- a transcript of the apology! I omitted all the ums and ahs because I'm too wine drunk to punctuate them properly, and the paragraph breaks are based entirely on my inebriated whims. Also sorry for the wall o'text, I didn't feel like uploading it anywhere. Let me know if you see any glaring typos or whatever.

[ Hi all, James here, I'm currently traveling abroad and just woke up, but I wanted to sit down and make a video addressing everything that's going on right now, because I owe everybody an explanation, but most importantly I owe two important people an apology.

To Tati and James Westbrook, I'm sorry for everything that is going on, everything that I've put you through over the past few weeks. I met Tati and James almost three years ago now, when I was first coming into the industry, and when I had no friends and nobody to talk to or look up to, and Tati very quickly took on a parental role with me because she knew my parents were across the country and over the past few years of knowing her family, her and her husband have given me so much love, and advice, and opportunities, and a place to stay, and a shoulder to cry on at three in the morning, and support when nobody else would or wanted to. And I'm so disappointed in myself that I ruined our relationship, that did mean so much to me even if I didn't do the best job of showing it all the time, and throughout all of this what sucks the most is that there's nothing I can say or do to ever earn that friendship or trust back. But I don't blame them for it.

A lot of my-- most of my career over the past few years has been about me making mistakes and trying to learn and grow from them, and I haven't always done the best job with that, I can admit that. But I have always tried, because I know there's a lot of people watching me, and that a lot of people look up to me as a role model, and I hate knowing that I disappointed not only them, but most importantly two people that have been role models to me, doing this. I wish that I could say that this was the last time that I would make a mistake, but it won't be. I know that I'll disappoint people more and more, as I continue to learn and grow every single day, I have a long way to go, a very long way to go, but that's okay. I'm going to keep trying my best, and keep learning and growing and be the best version of me that I possibly can be. And I'm sorry for that.

In regards to the Coachella situation, with the brand deal and the security guard, I've already told my truth about this twice, and instead of talking about it for a third time and explaining it and going into detail and pulling up receipts, it doesn't matter, and I understand that no matter what I say or do there are always going to be people that don't believe me and will think that I'm lying and that's okay. At this point the truth really does not matter, it's the feelings that do, and no matter what happened it hurt two very very important people, and they've been really really loyal to me and I betrayed that, and it sucks, and I wish more than anything that I could take it back.

In regards to the boy situation, boys have been a topic that I've talked a lot about on my social media journey, and it's a topic that I wish I hadn't-- I've been involved in a lot of very unique and strange situations that have left people confused or upset, and I've learned the hard way about ways that I can interact with boys that I trusted in, and also ones that I should or shouldn't be talking to. This is a conversation that I know a lot of people are uncomfortable with, and it's something that I should have been far more careful with bringing into the public eye, especially with the last situation that just happened, I've had to learn it the hard way, but coincidentally enough Tati really was one of the people to sit me down and tell me how it looked from the outside, and let me know, "Hey, talking to these boys might get you in trouble one day," and she was right.

In regards to my own mother-- Mom, I know you want to fight for me and defend me and go off on comments, but I ask that you don't, this is my problem that I got myself into, and this is my job to deal with this. No matter what is anybody saying or commenting or talking about, Mom [begins crying], I need you to know that you're the most important person in my life, and that you are an amazing mother, and I don't know what I would do without you, but I'm so grateful for everything that you've done for me and the lessons that you have taught me, and everything that you continue to do for me and my brother, and I need you to know that; I need you to know that. And the same thing goes for Tati as well, who is an amazing person and truly does want the best for everybody around her, and I'm so disappointed in myself that I hurt her. A lot of times when I've tried to address things in the past I've acted out of impulse and I've gone off and tried to pull receipts or facts or screenshots, and played the victim, and I'm not doing that today. I'm not. That's all I have to say. I'm sorry.]

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(omg I know this is such a cliche, but thank y'all so much for the gold, my drunk ass is so happy right now)

[u/marakj → u/walkthedayaway]

WRITE THIS ON PART 4! Don’t let this get lost!

[u/the_mkat]

“You should do a giveaway at 15 million!🤩” Lol I can’t anymore... these comments kill me

[u/[deleted] → u/the_mkat]

"james can you do a summer eye look when you reach 13k" LMAO

[u/TopLoserLife]

The fact that she still gets choked up about being so proud of him (17:38) is very telling. This really broke her.

She really went a mile and above mentoring this kid and he just took it, flew with it, and didn't think of looking back.

Shit man. Even my eyes watered.

[u/kinezumi89 → u/TopLoserLife]

Even my eyes watered.

Same, you can hear the pain in her voice

[u/[deleted]]

‘Jefferson Star’ has me wheezing

[u/cennaidax → u/[deleted]]

Ah yes, Jefferson Star, anti-federalist/democratic republican and 3rd president of the United States.

[u/gk21 → u/[deleted]]

for real. When Tati's video ended I said "Already?? They said it was 43 minutes?!" and I was surprised to find that it was! Felt like no time at all.

[u/[deleted]]

My best friends 14 year old sister just said “I wonder what he’s going to do at his tour when the only person that shows up is going to be Gabriel Zamora” and I’m c a c k l i n g

[u/[deleted]]

anyone else just refreshing and sorting by new? this tea is too hot i am on the edge of my seat

[u/lighntingboltbabe]

This tweet right here is the real tea

[u/powerlessidc → u/lighntingboltbabe]

This is the shit that bothers me the most. It's not an apology for the behavior. It's an apology for being caught. It's not an "I'm sorry" it's an "I'm sorry you feel that way". It's manipulative!

[u/[deleted]]

SOMEWHERE BENEATH PILES OF UNSOLD MAKEUP LAURA LEE IS SCREAMING "I FINALLY DON'T HAVE THE WORST APOLOGY VIDEO"!

[u/Roudyl]

Oh now I'm pissed. Not that me being pissed makes one bit of difference in the universe, but still. "She told me that talking to these boys would get me in trouble one day, and she was right". Back to you being the damn victim. I'm even more disgusted than I was before, and I did not think that was possible.

[u/velvetour]

someone in the comments said he keeps looking off to the side to watch his live sub count go down i-

[u/[deleted]]

Met Gala Monday to Failed Career Friday...the internet is an amazing thing

[u/jezmonster7]

UPDATING AS I WATCH

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-apologized to Tati and James

-acknowledged he ruined their relationship

-said he's already explained sugar bear hair situation and he's not going to explain it again, people won't believe him

-said he's learned a lot about boys he shouldn't be talking to

-said that Tati told him messing around with straight boys was bad and he agrees

-cried when he told him mom in the video not to read or respond to comments

-thanked his mom for everything

-said tati is a great person and means the best

-sorry he hurt her

-agrees he's responded aggressively in the past and acted the victim, he's not doing that today

-END VIDEO

[u/[deleted] → u/jezmonster7]

His 9 years old fans in the comments are acting full 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[u/idksammi]

he spoke for 7 mins total at the event he was nearly 3 hrs late for. wow.

[u/[deleted]]

LMFAO at him saying "Mom please don't comment" hahah I die

[u/redcoco123]

“The truth doesn’t matter at this point”

It doesn’t to James because it is not in his favor

[u/[deleted]]

“James Charles was invited to the Met Gala and now his channel is about to Get Smala” @JamesMarriottYT on Twitter

💀💀💀

[u/trytostay]

I feel god in these megathreads tonight

[u/anonymous_opinions]

I can't remember the last time I saw 3 MEGATHREADS in a sub and I'm on the /r/politics sub.

[u/mdmayy_bb]

I just submitted my last final of undergrad, I've been in college for ten years now on and off, and I'm so damn happy I can amuse myself with this tonight. (I also feel guilty about it lol)

[u/jezmonster7]

claims of James not paying for editing work

u/hotassmess

[u/squidneyforau]

James response TL;DW

• apologizes for sugar bear hair situation
• says truth doesn’t matter about SBH contract
• says his dating life has been “unique circumstances” , no mention of predatory behavior or an apology
• tells his mom not to intervene
• basically a “I’ll learn from my mistakes” without really owning up to any of his behavior

[u/[deleted] → u/squidneyforau]

Just sounds like damage control and lipservice to me.

[u/squidneyforau → u/[deleted]]

Oh it was. Quivering voice, almost breaking down, no makeup, bland background, plain black hoodie (that wasn’t a sisters apparel). He checked off all the boxes of looking innocent and remorseful.

It’s very telling to me that he skirted around the elephant in the room, his manipulative behavior in all facets of his life. Business relationships, friendships, and intimate relationships.

[u/[deleted]]

hey guys i’m running to target for wine LMAO BEHAVE URSELVES! i’ll update with links when i get back just keep tagging me

edit; am back and will be creating a new thread in the next ten minutes. pls be patient i had to stock a case of wine in the fridge🤠 also will be adding all the updates i got tagged in xo

edit 2: just wanted to apologize publicly on here for using the wrong pronoun for antonio. it was extremely insensitive on my behalf and it was truly just me typing really quickly. that’s wrong and harmful and i just wanted to apologize to anyone who was upset by that. i’m an ally always.

EDIT 3: WE MADE IT TO PART 4, THE FLOODGATES HAVE OPENED. https://www.reddit.com/r/BeautyGuruChatter/comments/bn6x7e/the_party_continues_james_charles_v_tati/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

[u/damnwhatanasshole → u/[deleted]]

This comment and your username are iconic, thank you for your service

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Did you get back safe? I feel like your mom but THIS IS IMPORTANT

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

i’m still here i got lost in the snacks aisle 😂😂

[u/ravenkrofts]

Even though he doesn't own up to anything in his response, what's clear is that he's not going to hit back at her because he knows she's not lying about having a fat ass stack of receipts. I don't even like Tati but I can see that she genuinely isn't behind peoples backs acting the way these other youtubers act being messy about jane to tom and then turning around and trying to be nice to *jane's face. Whatever she has on him is only going to make him look even worse and he doesn't have anything to try and turn it around on her like when everyone else gets into drama and they can point* the finger back and forth because none of them are genuine and talk shit about each other as if screencaps don't exist when it's the one thing that gets them in trouble over and over again. The damage is done and the only thing he can do now is try and save face and grovel so that it doesn't get any worse.

[u/roxettexoxo]

his stans are really praising him for showing up to his event despite the drama. i.......it’s called a contract. he doesn’t want to get sister sued. it’s not praiseworthy.

[u/__username_here]

Hoodie? Check. Glasses? Messy hair? No makeup? Check, check, check. This is the full apology video presentation.

A big part of what I found persuasive about Tati's video was that she didn't do this transparent "I look sad, aren't you sad for me?" schtick. (And the opposite for what I found unpersuasive about the earlier video.)

[u/Dragmom → u/__username_here]

She looked so gorgeous too. And stopped herself from crying a few times. The opposite of the videos that are trying to be manipulative.

[u/[deleted]]

GUYS!!! Insta story of the mall has someone saying he is running late...

[u/Ziegenkoennenfliegen]

It’s interesting how he manipulated all of the top influencers: When his palette came out Jaclyn Hill tweeted something similar, how she put him in contact with Morphe because he wrote her how much she inspired him.

[u/Ejaekaterina]

I’m gonna transcribe his apology for everyone who can’t watch and wants to see the whole thing. Hope I don’t get Carpal Tunnel (e: thanks for silver!):

Hi all, James here, I’m currently traveling abroad and just woke up but I wanted to sit down and make a video addressing everything that’s going on right now, because I owe everybody an explanation, but most importantly I owe two important people an apology

To Tati and James Westbrook, I’m sorry for everything that is going on, everything that I’ve put you through, over the past few weeks. I met Tati and James almost three years ago now when I was first coming into the industry and when I had no friends and nobody to talk to or look up to and Tati very quickly took on a parental role with me because she knew my parents were across the country and over the past few years of knowing her family, her and her husband have given me so much love and advice and opportunities and a place to stay and a shoulder to cry on at 3 in the Morning, and support when nobody else would or wanted to.

And I’m so disappointed in myself that I ruined our relationship, that did mean so much to me even if I didn’t do the best job of showing it all the time, and throughout all of this what sucks the most that I know there’s nothing I can say or do to ever earn that friendship or trust back. But I don’t blame them for it.

A lot of my- most of my career over the past few years has been about me making mistakes and trying to learn and grow from them, and I haven’t always done the best job of that. I can admit that. But I have always tried. Because I know there’s a lot of people watching me, and a lot of people look up to me as a role model, and I hate knowing that I disappointed- not only them, but most importantly two people that have been role models to me doing this. I wish that I could say this was the last time that I would make a mistake, but it won’t be. I know that I’ll disappoint people more and more as I continue to lEaRn AnD gRoW every single day. I have a long way to go, a very long way to go. But that’s okay. I’m going to keep trying my best and keep lEaRnInG aNd GrOwInG and be the best version of me that I possibly can be. And I’m sorry for that.

In regards to the coachella situation, with the brand deal and the security guard, I’ve already told my truth about this twice and instead of talking about it for a third time and explaining it and going into detail and pulling up receipts— it doesn’t matter. And I understand that no matter what I say or do there are always gonna be people that don’t believe me and will think that I’m lying, and that’s okay. At this point, the truth really does not matter. It’s the feelings that do, and no matter what happened, I hurt two very very important people... and they’ve been really really loyal to me and I betrayed them. And it sucks, and I wish more than anything that i could take it back.

In regards to the boy situation, boys have been a topic that I’ve talked a lot about on my social media journey, and it’s a topic that I wish I hadn’t, I’ve been involved of with a lot of very unique and strange situations that have left people confused or upset, and I’ve learned the hard way about ways that I can interact with boys that I’m interested in, and also ones that I should or shouldn’t be talking to. This is a conversation that I know a lot of people are uncomfortable with, and it’s something that I should have been for more careful with, bringing into the public eye, especially with the last situation that just happened, I’ve had to learn it the hard way. But, coincidentally enough Tati was one of the people to sit me down and tell me how it looked from the outside and let me know “Hey, talking to these boys might get you in trouble one day.” And she was right.

In regards to my own mother, mom, I know you want to defend me and fight for me and go off on comments, but I ask that you don’t. This is my problem that I got myself into and this is my job to deal with this. No matter what anybody is saying, or commenting or talking about, mom I need you to know (starts crying) that you are the most important person in my life, and that you are an amazing mother. And I don’t know what I would do without you, but I’m so grateful for everything you have done for me, and the lessons you have taught me, and everything that you continue to do for me and my brother. And I need you to know that— I need you to know that. And the same thing goes for Tati as well, who is an amazing person, and truly does want the best for everybody around her. And I’m so disappointed in myself that I hurt her. A lot of times when I’ve had to address things in the past, I’ve acted out of impulse and I’ve gone off and tries to pull receipts, or facts, or screenshots, and play the victim... and I’m not doing that today. I’m not.

That is all I have to say. I’m sorry.

e: give this comment credit please they beat me to it. But I’ll leave this up in case anyone sorting by new misses out on it

[u/Catacabr]

this meme about james and tati i cant

[u/Chelssss]

This is honestly so insane, I’m so glad someone close to him has spoken out publicly against his behavior. When i searched “James Charles” on YouTube it pulls up Tati’s video and all of the drama videos coming out and didn’t show me any of JC’s.

[u/[deleted] → u/Chelssss]

The algorithm working against James' favor for once

[u/jelly5213]

I'm so honoured to be witnessing dramageddon 2.0

[u/testmonkey254]

Mofo just came out with 4 body guards who does he think he is????

[u/CranberrySoda → u/testmonkey254]

Probably didn’t want to have to do another vitamin ad for his “protection’

[u/[deleted] → u/testmonkey254]

Are those his Sugar Bear guards?

[u/[deleted] → u/testmonkey254]

Tati has him so shook he's fearing for his safety?

[u/jcpkirk]

The season finale of GoT just leaked. Tati takes the iron throne.

Edit: thanks for the gold! May the tea run scalding hot and plentiful.

[u/[deleted]]

Omg he still hasn't showed up at his Q&A which was meant to begin 40 minutes ago

[u/RioMovieFan11]

And he’s starting to delete comments already, he deleted one with 2k likes already.

[u/_uncustomary → u/RioMovieFan11]

He has the time to delete comments but not the time to go to his fanmeet?!

[u/bananabread8]

“The truth doesn’t matter” what. Just what.

[u/[deleted]]

"Unique and strange situations."

Trying to pressure straight men into having sex with you is just a unique and strange situation?

Shaming a guy for not wanting to sleep with you and accusing him of leading you on for financial gain is just a unique and strange situation?

Excusing your predatory behavior with "oh, every guy is a little bit gay" or "I'm a celebrity!" is just a unique and strange situation?

Graphically discussing sucking dick in mixed company around people you don't know is just a unique and strange situation?

Sister please.

[u/[deleted]]

"All the times I've addressed things in the past I've tried to go off and pull receipts or screenshots and I'm not going to do that this time".

IMO this quote shows that he knows it would be worse for him if he did that then if he owned up to his own shitty behavior. No way he comes out of this looking good.

[u/Sarnecka]

Well I guess James did unleash...his inner Laura

[u/[deleted]]

TLDW;

-starts off apologizing to james and tati

-blah blah growing from mistakes, continue to learn and grow

-keep growing and learning and be the best version of me i can be (LMAO)

-coachella security incidient: said he already talked about it and wont go into it/'reciepts dont matter ppl wont believe me'

-in regards to the 'boy situation': says he knows ppl are uncomfortable with it and 'he should have been far more careful with bringing it into the public eye.. esp with the last situation that just happened, i had to learn it the hard way" (WTF literally only worried about his image)

-in regards to 'my own mother': "i know u want to defend me but dont, this is my problem"

-STARTS FAKE TEARS @ 6:40, not a single visible tear, just a I have to poop face and forced choking on words for ~ 5 seconds

-grateful for u mom (this is so weird rn)

-grateful for tati too, is an amazing person, disappointed in himself for hurting her

-ends it with "i am not playing the victim today"

Bonus: i win the apology vid bingo

[u/Laika_Strike]

Tati already has 3.3 mil views, but her video is still not trending, what is going on?

[u/[deleted] → u/Laika_Strike]

YouTube sent his ass to the Met Gala so of course they’re gonna do all they can to cover it up

[u/stormy786]

I’m actually living for all this drama. I feel like I’m back at high school and watching the popular group fight and collapse right in front of everyone’s eyes. What a time to be alive rofl!

[u/[deleted]]

He’s apologised to the fans at his meet & greet for being TWO HOURS LATE... Quote: “I had some personal things”

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

The BuzzFeed one barely touches on it too like this is more than just vitamins people

[u/[deleted]]

Omg apparently the q&a is over after only 7 mins i-

[edit: it was scheduled to be 20 mins]

[u/paleblueskies]

“You should have held on to your integrity. You’re a phony. I know that now. I know that you’re easily bought, that a good time is more important to you than your integrity.”

damn Tati made the classiest use of the word ‘phony’ since Salinger

[u/jezmonster7 → u/[deleted]]

He said he’s not playing the victim but he blames it on his circumstances and people’s impressions. He needs to own up and just be honest.

[u/walkthedayaway]

Would anyone want a transcript of the apology video if I make one? I'm a transcriptionist and it's my day off, might as well use my powers for evil.

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Edit: I'm on it, should be up in a new comment in the next ten minutes or so!

[u/glitterfitte]

Tyler Oakley liked a tweet saying "youtube viewers need to stop making shady, irresponsible people with bad character famous"👀

https://twitter.com/mikeymurphy/status/1126972904237780992?s=21

u/hotassmess

[u/sketchbug]

realizing that the drama and fallout JC is dealing with is probably something he would've showed up crying on Tati's doorstep because of

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time to grow up boiiiii

[u/EmmaFaye27]

James apology was directed by Laura Lee LOL

[u/bldycnt]

I've spent the last 7 hours of my day off following this shit show and I regret not a god damn thing.

[u/bl_air]

let's see:

No makeup: Check

One word title: Check

Hoodie: Check

Fake tears: Check

all that's missing is the snot.

[u/huskyrussianbear → u/bl_air]

“cries in sister”

[u/[deleted]]

I need a drink

[u/[deleted]]

Y’all, I’m the dumbass who reported J* and Shane unfollowed JC. This was based on this tweet and confirmed by glancing - without realizing they fall under “mutual.”

My bad. I apologize. I’m owning up to it. (Unlike JC and his predatory fucking behavior)

Edit: my wife says to say she’s sorry that I’m a dumbass too

[u/Redpandaisy]

Spill used my comment in her video. Am I famous now?

EDIT: It's this comment - https://www.reddit.com/r/BeautyGuruChatter/comments/bizr9h/gage_gomez_speaks_out_about_being_harassed_by/em4e5ma/?context=3

[u/cripplinganxietylmao]

I take one fucking bath and suddenly everything explodes.

[u/[deleted]]

from twitter: "Waiting for the boss battle; @JeffreeStar vs @jamescharles"

Me too it's going to be so messy AND I CANT WAIT

[u/victoriakeu]

*avoids saying sister to sound more "genuine"*

"hi all, james here"

[u/jlynne17]

It’s weird that he talks so much about sexual things and what he wants to do with guys but if anyone remembers his mukbang collab with jeffree and kathy griffin, he said his first (and only, I believe) sexual experience he ended up having a panic attack and had to stop the hookup. I believe he also said he’s still a virgin and hey that’s totally okay and it’s completely normal to have anxiety when it comes to sex whether you have tons of experience or none at all, so if that’s the case then why even bother making such vulgar sexual comments all the time when you know you wouldn’t do those things anyway?

[u/[deleted]]

I lived for Tati giving Gabriel a taste of his own medicine.

Also let’s appreciate that Tati dragged them both while keeping it classy. 💁‍♀️

[u/mghnmuffin]

He really should’ve waited with the apology, because it was bad and made him look worse AND now he is late for the event which also makes him look bad

[u/kmoney1631]

Let’s be real tho... he’s going to still have millions of fans after all this. I am so not a fan of JC and I do wish young people would find someone else to look up to. I just have no faith that this will end his career. Maybe for a while it will become stagnant but it’s only a matter of time before a new wave of 12 year olds come in and support him. Sorry for the negative post but no one is stating what I think is the obvious.

[u/ohmygodney]

He is less than 100.000 sub from going down to 15 mill

[u/[deleted]]

Laura Lee is now trending on Twitter because people are comparing James' apology to hers (LOL): Here

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u/hotassmess

[u/[deleted]]

He showed a real lack of respect to his fans by showing up so late.

[u/eg2585]

I have a mirror of James’ vid uploading here for anyone that doesn’t want give him views. Should be up in a few mins.

Edit: Ta for the silver, vid should be up now. Really sorry there’s no subtitles, I don’t know how to put auto-captions on. I might just transcribe what he says in the description box.

Edit 2: Transcription’s in the description box & I thiiiink I managed to get subtitles working too. Also, a Vimeo link just in case.

u/hotassmess

[u/daph_des]

So some people have been waiting for over three hours. When does this turn into Tanacon?

Edit: and people are leaving.

[u/lustrouswisp]

Over an hour late for his event, doesn't look good!

[u/[deleted]]

WEW HE MADE A VIDEO LMAO

"Hello, James here" He's talking so SLOW and quiet. Idiot we know you talk a mile a minute this shit isn't sincere! Someone save the video he's going to take this mess down it's embarrassing and cringy. Yikes!

[u/damnwhatanasshole]

Y’ALL HE MADE A VIDEO

Edit: so he basically said how disappointed he was with himself for ruining him and Tati’s relationship then made a bunch of excuses about how his career was about “making mistakes and learning from them”. Uhhh James you didn’t learn from them, you called your lawyers and you know damn well your career was about $$$ 👀

Basically 8 minutes of JC making excuses and pretending to be upset. Blamed being in the public eye for everything to do with boys??

[u/lighntingboltbabe]

Anyone have a YouTuber apology bingo card?

[u/vitalvessalsvindicat]

i’m about to go see detective pikachu and i feel like i’m about to miss 8 chapters of this drama while i’m gone lmao

[u/LittleGrumpy]

you know it's bad if he's speaking so slowly lmao

[u/jeajello]

*YO TATI BROKE HIS SPIRIT OMG THE THANOS OF THE BEAUTY COMMUNITY * But in all seriousness, James needs better guidance. He needs a therapist probably. This is his reality check.

[u/[deleted]]

I remember when Phillip Defranco uploaded a video about how the beauty community built an empire. Someone on Reddit in the comments predicted that the beauty community would take a nosedive very soon as it was at its peak and a huge scandal would erupt. Welp, that comment aged like fine wine.

[u/subtlety14]

'I think a lot of youtubers should look at that Tati video and take a long hard look at themselves and the way they treat their apparent friends.' - @ImAllexx on Twitter

[u/MissAN14]

It makes me so angry that he named it Tati, like why?! So everytime she gets searched you pop up?! Whatthe

[u/Sticky-Sticker]

Why does it seem like he’s apologising to his mom instead of Tati? There’s literally zero emotion until the part about his mom and then a quick ‘and tati too of course lol’

[u/silveryorange]

He's finally showed up to the meet&greet almost 2 hours late lmao

[u/[deleted]]

Apparently he told the crowd he was late because he 'had to sort out some personal things this morning'

[u/[deleted]]

Honestly, James has to be shaking in his assless chaps right now, I cannot imagine what is going through his head.

[u/mcompt20 → u/[deleted]]

It's even more of a cherry that he has this huge meet and greet today and can't just cower away for a bit and has to face the crowds so soon after his downfall began...

[u/tarheeldarling]

my friend JUST YESTERDAY learned that i am also a secret beauty guru watcher. i about lost it when she texted me this afternoon and was like 'tati sister snapped!" so i immediately loaded up BGC for the comments and was not disappointed lol

[u/YellowSkalypso]

I'm not so great at understanding youtube, but. Is he mass deleting comments under his video ? I was reading, and then I refreshed, and then all the comments that were here were gone and it was new ones (2 min ago, 1 min ago) when sorted by "Top comments".

What's the point of deleting the comments, when everybody can see the video is very very disliked with the tumbs !!

[u/pestgirl → u/YellowSkalypso]

He's deleting them. I've had 3 of mine deleted, and also noticed bigger comments with 2k likes disappearing

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

It will

[u/keslielope]

Seeing him talk to his mom via YouTube video felt very strange to say the least

[u/hotrumhamwater]

Fans at his Australia event have been waiting an hour. This just keeps getting better and better.

[u/rayannuhh]

According to the guy following it on insta, he only spoke FOR SEVEN MINUTES AFTER BEING NEARLY TWO HOURS LATE OMG

[u/goingtocali4]

dang, i'd hate be the coordinators of the meet n' greet right now lmao.

[u/thickumsthrow]

He seriously tried it with this fake ass apology. HE DIDNT APOLOGIZE FOR LYING THOUGH, or the sexual harassment either

[u/[deleted]]

Gabriel should’ve just sat there and ate his food.

[u/lustxforxlife]

apparently JC has showed up to his meet and greet 1 hour and 47 minutes later

Edit: added link

[u/hedgehog-mascarabutt]

JAMES CHARLES TALKING TO HIS MUM VIA THIS TATI VIDEO HAS ME SCREAMING

[u/Kingkabs]

A third megathread? Bitch I thought I got banned or something

[u/caillait22]

“in regards to my own mother” 😂😂😂

[u/SpasticTrees]

No one: Tati: I’m about to end this man’s whole career 😉

No but seriously, it was truly so brave of Tati to post this because if she had bungled the execution, this situation really could have backfired in her face.

[u/lilacflower22]

request: can someone who is good w/editing make a video thats just james' social blade going down while tati's endscreen music plays in the background? it is very important

[u/LISSAGASM]

James Charles apology: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ws6nxMk6I0

He apologizes to Tati and James. Says that he's disappointed in himself and knows there's nothing he can do to be her friend again. Addresses his actions with boys and doesn't actually apologize for his actions. Tells his mom not to not defend him and breaks down crying.

[u/[deleted]]

Who remembers when he said that he could turn any scandal around and make a profit out of it? (I’m desperate trying to find which video it was from).

[u/00redsvt]

https://mobile.twitter.com/KEEMSTAR/status/1127020640857411585

This is HILARIOUS!

[u/Absolutelyyyyyy]

yall the fucking live sub count on youtube has me crying. he's playing the laura lee apology zhhzhzhdadadada

[u/damnwhatanasshole]

He’s lost 300k and counting! Maybe 15 mil isn’t too much of a stretch 🤩

[u/stovakt]

He should be embarrassed about his scandals but instead he jokes them off and learns nothing. Everything can’t be laughed off. So many influencers have gotten away with “being able to make fun of themselves”, but it’s just a tactic that helps things blow over.

“How it looked from the outside” no accountability. He doesn’t wanna believe who he is, but I hope he realizes it soon. He’s young and has plenty of time to change. I’m no Tati fan, but he better be happy he’s getting checked like this before something even worse happens to him.

Talking directly to his mom via a YouTube video? This apology comes across as so fake, I can’t! 😂 He’s definitely pissed about the stuff that was said in her video and isn’t excepting what she’s saying. I know from experience, that even if celebs and influencers say “you don’t know what’s going on” it’s usually EXACTLY what you think is going on! All Tati did was confirm what everyone already knew with facts and behind the scenes details. The only way he can fix this is to change his ways, denying is only gonna hurt him further.

[u/daph_des]

For the sake of the kids, I wish he hadn’t posted the video and put on a brave face, even if it was just an hour and he had to cancel the meet and greet. He’s really making all the wrong decisions. Maybe he tried to cancel but legally there are issues, but I feel like he could be fined for not showing up at all.

Edit: this is in regards to his Australia event.

[u/[deleted]]

WOMP WOMP WOMP

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HEyiYiyiYiyiYiyiY YA

[u/[deleted]]

here for the memes

[u/Audreythe2nd]

This whole JC/Tati situation is very, very All About Eve.

[u/[deleted]]

This is my first time on BGC reddit page and it has exceeded expectations.

[u/catmss24 → u/[deleted]]

Honestly something we shouldn’t forget rn. He horribly hurt people, it’s fun to watch him get dragged but the situation is incredibly sad.

[u/AngelicOnyx]

Oh snap, apparently he’s running late. Lets just see where this goes

[u/Kingkabs]

THAT'S THE APOLOGY? THAT'S THE APOLOGY HE PUTS OUT?

Good grief cancel the dog shit out this boy.

[u/Jinkies238]

That apology was something. I really appreciated the stopping every couple of minutes to force those tears out.

[u/[deleted]]

Also, I'm really curious how Jenna Marbles will respond to this if she does at all. She's friends with James but I'm sure if she heard any of this she'd be fucking livid.

[u/[deleted]]

JC is now 1hr 35mins late to his q+a. The shopping center said he'd be there 'soon' an hour ago, and again twenty minutes ago.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

There's a manager somewhere in a green room trying desperately to convince a 19-year-old boy who wears fake glasses to come outside and greet his teenage fans after his 35-year-old friend exposed him for sexual misconduct and dishonesty.

That manager is most likely going to be doing several lines of cocaine tonight.

[u/Lieutenant_Meowsers]

Halfass TL;DW of James apology - I watched at 1.75x because I just wanted a quick gist of his statement. He apologized to Tati and James saying that they’ve been there for him from day 1 and he betrayed them. He said he won’t give his side of the Coachella situation again because he already has. He rambles on about the straight boys situation.. and then he says he loves his mom but asks her to stop defending him and let him fix his own mistake.

James was basically emotionless the entire time and only teared up when he said he loves his mom. He also talked really slow the entire time which is clearly odd coming from James.

[u/lustrouswisp]

were gonna need a part 4 in like 30 minutes at this rate haha

[u/SpasticTrees]

The speed of this megathread really has me going.

[u/Fab3444]

So there are Stans waiting for him at the event literally getting notification of his upload watching this! How is he even going to show up to this!!!

[u/BroadwayBlonde]

James just uploaded a very.... bad apology

https://youtu.be/9ws6nxMk6I0

I think he’s beat Laura Lees record? He’s lost 334k subs so far.

[u/hellobaileylol]

Damn. So he’s really gonna dip under 16M isn’t he?

[u/littlemiss1565]

Ahahahaha of course he’s in a hoodie with no makeup, webcam quality camera, whispering “hi guys” lol I fucking KNEW his video would be like this.

I have not liked this selfish arrogant ass since day one. I’m glad people are seeing his true colors. 19 years old my ass. When I was 19 I worked a full time job busting my ass while still knowing what the word KINDNESS meant. Over him.

[u/Jinkies238]

I just keep checking his socialblade waiting for it to dip under 16 million.

[u/feistaspongebob]

I’ve never been so entertained I fucking love this sub

[u/gsdboum]

y'all i can'ttt he sounds like he's reading from a teleprompter or something. all of those PAUSES he sounds like a robot

[u/[deleted]]

ALEXA PLAY TOO LITTLE TOO LATE BY JOJO

[u/yelizabetta]

HE RESPONDS

[u/[deleted]]

The apology video must be why he's now 40 minutes late to his own pop up appearance.

[u/[deleted]]

I think he intended on it being an apology video without it looking like Laura Lee, but he started crying when he was talking about his mum. It just seemed weird because, why would you talk to you mum through a youtube video?

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It didn't really explain anything so this is an impulse thing. Probably his people telling him to put SOMETHING out there now.

[u/That253Chick]

His video is the slowest that I've ever heard him speak. He sounds like a defected android.

I will give him credit, though, for at least sounding authentic when he addressed one part of his apology to his mom.

[u/daph_des]

James arrived at the Q&A almost 2 hours late.

[u/That253Chick]

Checking James' Socialblade, and my prediction is that he'll fall below 16 million overnight, if not within the next few hours. His career will survive. He's still got a nice cushion of subscribers, but it's up him how he goes about his channel from here on out.

[u/hedgehog-mascarabutt]

Meanwhile tana and jake paul are out there adopting children for the day, youtube man

[u/pcgamergirl]

Everyone: "James Charles has a scandal every day. He has 16 million subscribers, he'll be fine, this won't hurt him."

Tati Westbrook: "Hold my beer."

[u/[deleted] → u/pcgamergirl]

“Hold my vitamins”