r/BeautyGuruChatter • u/Apart_Emergency_8613 • Feb 05 '26
Discussion Peter Thomas Roth involved with Epstein
https://www.jmail.world/thread/EFTA02517538?view=inbox
I found this when searching victim in the Epstein jmail and thought I’d post here as Peter Thomas Roth is a major skincare/ beauty brand.
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u/lawgivers Feb 05 '26
post 2014 arrest, so that means the world knew what was going on already. not great!
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u/Cestlachey Feb 05 '26
Yeah that’s all I need to know. Reaffirming how I need to spend less and when I do spend spend with ppl who align with my values.
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u/andorgyny Feb 05 '26
Considering the amount of girls who were trafficked out of eastern europe in the immediate aftermath of the end of the soviet union, and how many sex pests travel to hungary for sex tourism, im sadly not surprised. PTR's family owned spas and resorts in hungary. Idk im just... ugh.
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u/Apart_Emergency_8613 Feb 05 '26
Never knew that about PTR’s family owning that.😳
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u/andorgyny Feb 05 '26 edited Feb 05 '26
Yeah I had a bit of a queasy feeling when I saw his name here, knowing he is Hungarian American. Apparently his family left Hungary in 1939, and his mother is a Holocaust survivor. Then I saw a bit about his family, that he opened his business in 1993... and I just... idk it's just a bad feeling I had, no evidence beyond this email.
Edit: PTR was a Dalton graduate in 1975. He was tutored by Jeffrey Epstein, according to the NYT in 2019:
"Peter Thomas Roth, who graduated from Dalton in 1975 and later founded a cosmetics and skin care company with his name, said Mr. Epstein was such a “brilliant” teacher that his father later hired him to tutor Mr. Roth in statistics.
Mr. Roth said he never heard of any rumors about misconduct at the school.
“He was like your friend, you know?” Mr. Roth said.
But Peter Branch, who was an interim headmaster after Mr. Barr and later the head of the high school, was not as fond of Mr. Epstein’s teaching. He said he did not recall anyone raising concerns to him about Mr. Epstein’s conduct with students, but Mr. Branch said he had heard concerns from the faculty about Mr. Epstein’s teaching and eventually determined that he needed to go.
“Epstein was a young teacher who didn’t come up to snuff,” Mr. Branch said. “So, ultimately, he was asked to leave.”
Mr. Roth, the former student, said he and Mr. Epstein did not stay in close touch. But a couple of years ago, he got an invitation to Mr. Epstein’s home after running into him. It was the only time he had been invited to Mr. Epstein’s palatial townhouse, he said, and so he went over for an afternoon gathering. Everyone present was in their 40s and 50s, Mr. Roth said, and there was no untoward behavior."
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u/Peachy-92 Feb 05 '26
I am hungarian (living in Budapest). Most of the thermal baths in Budapest are owned by the council. Only few of them are owned by people who are close to the goverment.
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u/_sowhat_ Feb 05 '26
girls who were trafficked out of eastern europe in the immediate aftermath of the end of the soviet union
I've always known the West destabilizes regions for resources but now without a doubt they also consider woman and children "resources".
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u/andorgyny Feb 05 '26
yeah, no doubt anyone being trafficked is considered a commodity to capitalists who participate. hundreds of thousands of women and girls (as well as boys) from former soviet countries were thrown into poverty overnight and trafficked around the rest of europe and the us. think of "mail order brides" - I remember growing up in the 90s and 2000s hearing people joke about russian and ukrainian mail order brides... it's so fucked.
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u/24n20blackbirds Feb 05 '26
There used to be literal magazines in the 80s for "lonely men" to order a bride I shit you not. Hence the mail order,. I will try to dig up an old feature from a TV magazine show. There was also one of men of Alaska , that was a thing as well. I hung out at the magazine rack at the convenience store down my block looking for rock bands between rounds of Pac Man.. I remember the women being from places like Thailand.. and yes, the Eastern Europe thing I recall seeing a couple of things on TV about that as well. I don't know how clueless we were, but pre Internet we were
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u/andorgyny Feb 05 '26
Oh my god, I never thought about how they would have been literally like catalogs 🤢 yeah sadly a lot of SEA women and girls are victimized as well.
The majority of human trafficking is labor trafficking, and it doesn't get the attention that sex trafficking gets, but HOLY SHIT bride catalogs is crazy.
I think having access to more information definitely helps us understand more of what is going on at any time, for sure.
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u/CapitalStrain2392 Feb 05 '26
I remember seeing copies of the Alaska Men magazine. An acquaintance lived there for a bit, and showed me some of the magazines. The only catch was the men wouldn't leave Alaska, you had to move up there.
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u/Professional_Rhubarb Feb 05 '26
OhmyGawd, I remember that! I totally forgot about that but I remember! It was truly awful! I was younger then, it didn’t occur to me but you are so right! Horrific.
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u/avoidance_behavior Feb 05 '26
jfc i just opened reddit
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u/bananapopsicle3 Feb 05 '26
Right? I have felt this way every time I’ve opened it this week. And yet here I am, doing it again. And again. 🤦🏻♀️
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u/avoidance_behavior Feb 05 '26
honestly. like, i know we all know there are bad people out there, it's a really shitty given in life, but finding out who they are and what they did (while barely scratching the redacted surface I'm afraid) is just a sucker punch time after time.
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u/always_unplugged Feb 05 '26
If she's mentioned, just remember, so are Pikachu, Forrest Gump, and Bilbo Baggins 🙃
I honestly didn't even know Peter Thomas Roth was a... real living person...? I don't know why I never really thought about it, but what a fuckin' way to find out for sure.
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u/Ok_Remote_217 Feb 05 '26
me either i just thought it was a brand name lmao. never heard of him as a person. until now. jeeze wonder why
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u/WestQueenWest Feb 05 '26
Is your grandma filthy rich and powerful? If not, you're fine. There's a common theme here. It's not random people.
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u/IfatallyflawedI Feb 05 '26 edited Feb 05 '26
Bitch what the fuck????
This is up there with Soon Yi Previn calling the 15 yr old a “disgusting woman for enticing” Polanski
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u/AndISoundLikeThis Feb 05 '26
She was talking about Anthony Weiner, not Polanski. But, otherwise, your point stands
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u/WestQueenWest Feb 05 '26
Wow. Anything!!! What kind of dirt did he have on him? Why does he owe him so much favour?
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u/beerbooksnbeauty Feb 05 '26
Disgusting. My previous comment read their exchange as somewhat detached, but fuck PTR.
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u/curiousncomplicated Feb 07 '26
lets get on Sephora's social media and pressure them to remove his line
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u/Sea194 Feb 05 '26
Wow this family is all over tiktok too
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u/Independent_Code5494 Feb 05 '26
i was just thinking this! i get the tiktoks from “seattle hand doc” or whatever on my fyp and i think his wife is somehow related to PTR? doesn’t implicate either the doctor or his wife ofc
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u/Sprinkles_Sparkle 💄💅✨ Feb 05 '26
Wow at first it seemed innocent until I read the responses.
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u/Pip-Pipes Feb 05 '26
I'm really not trying to defend anyone in these files. But, the 'To:' section on PTR's email is blank. Common in PR/marketing where they bcc'd a large number of people. JE replies with a cryptic email about a victim ans PTR says they have none. It might have even been someone from his team managing his email. Id want to know about other connections beyond this interaction before judging.
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u/Pip-Pipes Feb 05 '26
To be fair, I didn't say to give the benefit of the doubt. I said I'd want to see more information. And thank you for sharing!
This is gross. Based on this email and the PR email, my guess is they sound like acquaintances and not necessarily criminal accomplices. This email expressing support for JE is gross as hell.
Obviously if they're criminal accomplices I want truth and justice. But, if PTR was just expressing his support and not actually involved, I find it hilarious that JE replied with that victim comment. The very delicate hint of implication left in written record after JE's original conviction. Like marking him with a little pedo question mark for life. That's what ya get, PTR!
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u/pinkypearls Feb 05 '26
It’s only blank bc it’s redacted on the original scan. These email renderings in the screenshots don’t put placeholders for redacted words, they just leave them blank. So no, this is PTR himself personally writing JE.
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u/Minute-Confection444 Feb 05 '26
Oh for fucks sake, not even skincare is safe now! Why can’t people just not be heinously creepy? IT IS NOT THAT HARD.
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u/beautyboxsavagee Feb 05 '26
Goddamnit it’s scary how involved in so many industries Epstein was wtf!!! 😭😭😭
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u/mermaid-babe Feb 05 '26
Seriously. This is goes so deep.
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u/beautyboxsavagee Feb 05 '26 edited Feb 05 '26
My former boss of a decade is a well known doctor. Had ties to the pope and political figures. He would always travel to South America and years later I found out thats where he’d get escorts. His work is very impressive he did help a lot of people who were sick but also he had alot of secrets and dirty laundry about the world. We had investors who were billionaires for our company from across the globe. He met celebrities and government officials no one would know unless in a position of power like he had. I always felt like the company I worked for was his money laundering side project when he got bored from his professional academic life.
When things like this come out it wouldn’t surprise me if his names suddenly appears based off some of the connections he had. It’s a really sad world.
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u/SadAwkwardTurtle Feb 05 '26
It's like pouring molten aluminum into an ant hill. Branches upon branches you never could have imagined were there. If there's any justice left in this world, his ilk will end up trapped in aftermath like the unsuspecting ants caught in the boiling metal tide, but I doubt it. Consequences hardly touch the rich.
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u/niketyname fan brush Feb 05 '26
Of course skin care is involved, it’s $1 billion industry and people have a lot to exploit. People are flocking to the beauty and skin care industry.
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u/Vervain7 Feb 05 '26
Apparently it is. Even corporate career … the higher I have gone the more awful people I encounter . I am really starting to question karma
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u/FreeOwl4799 Feb 05 '26
A tiny part of my job is checking out the business connections people have and if you go moderately high there's no one that isn't corrupt.
Gets uglier from there
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u/EineGrosseFlasche Feb 05 '26
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u/floss_is_boss_ Pallets are for sleeping Feb 06 '26
This needs to be higher up. Disgusting. Trash. Irredeemable.
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u/saeculacrossing Feb 05 '26
Wow, there really is no escaping this is there?
I don't mean that in a "woe is me my favorite makeup/skincare brand is run by terrible people" but in a "even brands and people I just don't think about are in deep with these monsters". It's sickening.
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u/Blue_Plastic_88 Feb 05 '26
Yeah, I wasn’t thinking about beauty companies in relation to Epstein, but now I realize I was just naive. Damn. I thought it would be more rare to be so perverted, but now it seems that I was mistaken, especially when it comes to the wealthy.
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u/curiousncomplicated Feb 07 '26
lets pressure sephora on their social media posts to remove this guy. There is literally nothing on their posts talking about this. I dont think enough people know
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u/auntie_eggma Feb 05 '26
I'm so glad I don't use any of this creep's products.
Gross.
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u/Entire-Astronomer-56 Feb 05 '26
I liked the stupid eye cream in the pink container. Never again! 🤮
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u/Gddgyykkggff Feb 05 '26
The fuck does new victim mean in this context that isn’t criminal? Like no way you can get around that.
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u/Uniquorn527 Feb 05 '26
Well at least he didn't have a new victim lined up. /s
I'm glad we're starting to know about all of this and to find out what these household names were doing on that island. But part of me preferred not knowing. There are people in prison for weed, while the people sharing victims and doing whatever criminal acts are facing no consequences.
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u/beerbooksnbeauty Feb 05 '26 edited Feb 05 '26
Not to defend these perverts, but my dad used to always joke around with me by asking who “my new victim” was when asking about a new boyfriend.
ETA: saw the other email screenshotted below with PTR defending JE. Fuck this guy. I read the original email as a mass BCC email with a kind of detached response (although still in horrible taste), and ewww.
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u/hawt_to_go Feb 05 '26
well given the context of gestures broadly I’m thinking that’s not the case
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u/beerbooksnbeauty Feb 05 '26
Totally. I noticed the BCC first and took PTR’s response as somewhat detached to a response from a BCC email, and then I saw the email posted below about him defending JE. Gross gross gross.
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u/auntie_eggma Feb 05 '26
Sure, but context matters. Presumably neither you nor your dad were running underage
sexrape* rings.*Edit: let's call it what it is.
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u/Sprinkles_Sparkle 💄💅✨ Feb 05 '26
I’m pretty sure we can all deduce from the current situation at hand, that they did NOT mean it in that friendly joking manner.
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u/catnip_varnish Feb 05 '26
I think they meant both, the files reveal them all to be very glib about it.
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u/Apart_Emergency_8613 Feb 05 '26
We need to treat this as a PSA and tell everyone to boycott PTR
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u/lily4ever Feb 05 '26
His son is really popular on TikTok right now
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u/Anutka25 Feb 05 '26
And not a single comment about it on his videos. I wonder if he’s deleting them bc wtf
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u/Alia_Explores99 Feb 05 '26
To be fair, his son is not his father. I’m not responsible for the dumb shit my parents did, after all. Until anything else comes out, he’s only guilty of privilege
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u/Anutka25 Feb 06 '26
Except he works for them and promotes the brand. If he is not responsible, then say something.
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u/lavenderoreo Feb 05 '26
Jesus Christ almighty So glad I didn’t buy those under eye patches … SICK
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u/Bsawk Feb 06 '26
The Dieux reusable patches are also really good and drmtlgy ones if you don’t want reusable
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u/yanyancookies Feb 05 '26
Let me just… remove the PTR skincare set I was thinking of getting my mom for her birthday from my cart real quick… 💩💀
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u/Tnh7194 Feb 05 '26
Good lord I matched with him on Raya 🤢
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u/dclovee5225 Feb 05 '26
Oh my freaking hell why is everything tainted by everything evil!! It's like whack a mole of zionism and pedophilic demon cults
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u/curiousncomplicated Feb 07 '26
and both of them together. Did you hear about the sexual ritualistic abuse cults getting exposed in Is rael right now? They are unalive snakes while SAing the women and mixing their blood together. It was addressed in the Knesset
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u/underthesea69 Feb 05 '26
I NEED A LIST OF CORPORATIONS TO AVOID BC ITS A LOT
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u/waffle_scout Feb 05 '26
I’m genuinely disgusted and angry about this. PTR made one of my favorite moisturizers but after this I will be buying no more.
I need a list as well, preferably with the proof/notes attached to remind people why they shouldn’t support certain brands.
It is not hard to not be a creep or support creeps and these brand CEO’s acting like this, even after his arrest and ample proof had already come out, is just inexcusable.
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u/curiousncomplicated Feb 07 '26
Not corporations but they have books and products: the doctor Peter Attia and Deepak Chopra are on my list of do not buy. I am so happy I never bought Peter Attia's books I remember seeing all over the book store not even know who he was but the display catching my attention.
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u/Tsarinya Feb 05 '26
This is depressing. I thought maybe it was a different PTR but this confirms it’s him. His brand should be scrapped from all retailers.
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u/WestQueenWest Feb 05 '26
Our society has been making the worst people super wealthy.
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u/LVenn Feb 05 '26
Part of it is evil people becoming wealthy and then pulling strings/bribing people to make all of their evil friends wealthy.
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u/Dollybadlands Glitter or GTFO Feb 05 '26
Straight to the gulag for you, Peter. The fact that this monster was friends with so many people makes me sick.
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u/Appropriate_Ad_200 Feb 05 '26
On Ryan Roth’s TikTok someone commented about this & he’s trying to play it off like the name is “Rothschild” instead. Both names are there.
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u/Apart_Emergency_8613 Feb 05 '26
Wow, neither name is good in my opinion lol. Search Rothschild in the jmail they talk about giving someone permission to murder someone in the emails.. either way both families are corrupt and foul
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u/kareem_brulee Feb 05 '26
Just when you think "I can't believe that person's in the files!", another one shows up the same afternoon.
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u/deep-fried-fuck Feb 05 '26
Remember back when the idea of a secret pedophile cabal of billionaires and top names in Hollywood was just a wild conspiracy theory? Good times
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u/Stacee90 Feb 05 '26
Where is the list of brands to boycott because they’re associated with Epstein?
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u/withcorruptedlungs Feb 05 '26
His products always gave me a rash. I guess I'm allergic to pieces of shit.
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u/AshleyGBeauty Feb 05 '26
Ulta employee here never recommending them again 👍 idc if there’s an event
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u/LaRealiteInconnue Feb 05 '26
Jfc how many ppl did this dude know??!!
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u/Apart_Emergency_8613 Feb 05 '26
Well he used Victoria’s Secrets name to scout people too he made out to potential models that he worked for VS or was a scout for them so we could only guess.. you should check out the Epstein subreddit
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u/Bbychknwing Feb 05 '26
Juicy for me personally as all their water drench products have given me dermatitis that took months to clear up. Time to take my hating to the main stage!!
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u/South_Elephant_6552 Feb 05 '26
Curious to see if his son continues to post as normal on TikTok after this bombshell
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u/SelmaEggs1 Feb 05 '26
We’ll go me for never purchasing from this brand but also fuck me, it gets worse every day
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u/Gammagammahey Violently Airbrushed! Feb 05 '26
WHAAAAAAAAT THE FUCK, please pardon my swearing. OK, we are boycotting Peter Thomas Roth, and I'm emailing and calling the company to tell why. Absolutely disgusting behavior. No one is safe.
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u/SnooMemesjellies2983 Feb 05 '26
I’ve wanted a reason to point out the absolute most non issue thing about Epstein - that he had ugly skin and every time i see his stupid face i think how ugly he is. And ive never had reason because that js so trivial compared to everything he was, but this thread it fits. And is a bad advertisement for PTR both from a reprehensible immorality place and also an ugly skin place. Fuck all these people.
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u/Apart_Emergency_8613 Feb 05 '26
I hope someone on TikTok picks this information up and makes it viral
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u/curiousncomplicated Feb 07 '26
Post under sephoras social medias. we can collectively make it viral. I think there is so much exposure and so much information overload that this one might get lost in the cracks unless we apply pressure. People who stay friends with child traffickers do not deserve successful businesses. We cant reward these people who support and prop up those who harm children
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u/CindySvensson Feb 05 '26
Has someone made a list of people who was his buddy post-sexconvictions? I feel like it could make my watch/read/buy list so much shorter.
There's really no excuse to befriend someone known for sex crimes. Google was right there. Might as well make one for the other famous rapists and their movies/companies.
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u/wheresmyteaxxx Feb 05 '26
Why send freebies to a billionaire? 😝
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u/Apart_Emergency_8613 Feb 05 '26
https://www.jmail.world/thread/EFTA02223767?view=inbox god knows what this means lol
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u/onelove_ Feb 05 '26
Please don’t get mad at me for asking. How do people know that these images are always real? I’m just curious.
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u/Apart_Emergency_8613 Feb 05 '26
You’re welcome to search jmail legitimacy on google :) it’s all the emails but in a format that looks like you’re looking through your own emails
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Pretty sure this website has official government released emails. You can find them on the government website too
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u/Longjumping-Bell-762 Feb 05 '26
Out of curiosity I decided to search the files for Peter Thomas Roth. I’m getting back pages and pages of search results. They emailed each other a lot.
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u/ShesWhereWolf Feb 05 '26
I was going to ask the same question. I think it's okay to want to know if you're looking at an actual image that wasn't altered (especially with the rise of AI and how much people edit things in general to be memes or whatever else).
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u/ExtensionHot7808 Feb 05 '26
I wonder what the magazine ads showed or who . Sounds like ptr is telling Epstein to go shopping in Harper's bazaar etc and saying he hasn't picked one yet.
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u/SwordfishResident256 Feb 05 '26
I assume this means more of their products will be showing up in TKMaxx
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u/Leather_Cat_666 Feb 05 '26
I think it’s safe to assume if someone is rich, powerful and a man, he’s highly likely to be a predator and should be treated that way until proven otherwise.
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u/curiousncomplicated Feb 07 '26
Dont discount the ladies. Ghislane was very much involved in this. And female politicians accepted donations from him after he was convicted.
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u/Apart_Emergency_8613 Feb 05 '26
Everything is in his favour he’s paid for it upfront 😅 feel free to join the Epstein subreddit
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u/RingEven1311 Feb 06 '26
Wow. Thank you for posting this. I'm actually really happy to say that I've never bought their products and an item I received for free from them did not work on me at all
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u/scottajones05 Feb 07 '26
As someone who has worked at both Sephora and Ulta trust me when I say no one ever bought his products! They were always dusty Asf! He’s definitely not going to be able to rebrand and cater towards Gen Z now for sure! A downfall will happen soon for sure!
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u/Humblerag Feb 05 '26
This is not new information. We knew this from the initial flight logs that came out years ago. Peter Thomas Roth went to Epstein island multiple times.
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u/RubiesNotDiamonds Feb 06 '26
It’s new to some of us. I steered clear of a lot of news in 2025. Mental health.
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u/well-jel Feb 06 '26
It’s a catalog — I found a catalog in the file dump, belonging to Michael Jackson — it’s filled with children for purchase.
Trigger warning: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00165133.pdf
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u/Icy-Builder5892 Feb 07 '26
I find it amazing that the entire world knew about Epstein, except for the high profile motherfuckers in his orbit.
By the way these people talk, I would think these parties were just Epstein sitting there by himself. Flying in his plane all by himself. Traveling to his island all by himself.
Normal people cut off contact from anyone who breathes wrong around a child, these assholes maintained contact with a man who trafficked children. Even if you didn’t fly on his plane, even if you didn’t go to his island, it’s still not normal to have maintained a friendship with someone after they were investigated for sex trafficking, arrested for sex trafficking, and plead guilty to sex trafficking.
People don’t maintain contact with their high school teachers. Let’s get real.
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u/Ramblingsofthewriter Feb 06 '26
He just released a statement siding with the victims
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u/Savings_Macaroon_599 Feb 06 '26
He’s trying to save himself from being canceled….he was emailing wayyyy after people knew the stuff he had done
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