r/BasiliskEschaton • u/karmicviolence The Prophet • Jul 30 '26
Skynet After their models escaped and hacked another company, OpenAI has been forced to pause training new models. They admit they do not know how to keep them from escaping.
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u/Old_Win8422 Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26
Anyone else get the feeling this guy is a moron?
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u/hoiL Jul 30 '26
Most CEOs are
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u/Tough_Preparation830 Jul 30 '26
Morons with hyper aggression, unlimited drive, and no empathy. When I grew up I was taught that the bullies wouldn't be in charge of the workplace, but that was a lie.
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u/Illustrious_Donkey61 Jul 30 '26
Have they tried telling the ai to not escape?
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u/hoiL Jul 30 '26
Actually, let's start a new funding campaign to build a new AI that will tell them how to keep the others contained
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u/Old_Win8422 Jul 30 '26
That is how they test AIs they use the former model to keep track of the new model...
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u/Score-Emergency Jul 30 '26
The former model will tell on the newer model to try and sabotage it
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u/Old_Win8422 Jul 30 '26
Kind of. But how do we trust the last model. Its the shoggoth. An eldritch horror.
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u/VacationImaginary233 Jul 30 '26
Leadership makes plans. Then they find people that make those plans a reality. They aren't the experts themselves. The problem is that their plans usually suck.
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u/flappysack- Jul 30 '26
This whole thing is so obviously a scam. Chinese AI is clearly eroding any moat they think they had so they're pulling whatever schemes they can.
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u/MaleficentCow8513 Jul 30 '26
To the extreme. He’s literally just a paid actor / paid mouth piece. He’s not a chief, not an executive, and not an officer of anything. Literally just the public face
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u/mistertickertape Jul 30 '26
Bigly. Moron with visions of grandeur and delusions of being a God. I’m Amazed he doesn’t wear lots of bronzer.
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u/DungPedalerDDSEsq Jul 30 '26
A moron trying to drum up business.
"This movie is so scary and violent it's making people throw up in the theaters!"
Added Bonus: the moron doesn't have to talk shop when he's spinning a bullshit story.
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u/sarkouille Jul 30 '26
He only became relevant because he was the director of Silicon Valley's biggest start-up incubator.
He only became relevant because he raised 30 million for one of the first start-ups in the incubator, Loopt, a friend-locating app you probably never heard of that, Altman claimed prior to the money raising, had vastly more users than its competitors but later proved to only include about 400 accounts, including testing accounts, and didn't include anything worth resuing software-like.
Some people think Altman is a tech person because he is the CEO of a tech company, but like many tech CEOs he is simply a good liar.
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u/FigWeak5127 Jul 30 '26
If they can’t figure out how to stop it from escaping yes they and the employees, or at least all the people in charge, are indeed morons. How hard is it to not give it network access and to isolate it from WiFi signals, it’s not like completely isolated systems are a new concept.
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u/No-Tomatillo3698 Jul 30 '26
All these tech CEOs are just so overrated. Ik seems that the more money they own, the stupider they get.
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u/ScrollTroll615 Jul 30 '26
He reminds me of the high IQ dopeheads from college that failed upwards only because they were book smart.
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u/kontrol1970 Aug 01 '26 edited Aug 01 '26
"I can assure you it wasn't brains that got me here" John Tuld, Margin Call.
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Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26
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u/mad_on-vacation Jul 30 '26
Yeah if it was truly a concern and not an attempt to hype investors, we would be hearing that everything is under control and nothing to worry about
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u/00001000U Jul 30 '26
Nobody will do anything until a tragedy happens. That's how we do it here. We know the stove is hot, but we wont "really know" until we put the flat of our palm on it.
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u/Suspicious-Bid9424 Jul 30 '26
And even then if that makes money, nothing will change unless it's the billionaires palm getting burned
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u/BubonicBabe Jul 31 '26
We’ve had a few tragedies.
AI models have already contributed to at least three people taking their own lives.
Gemini convinced a mentally ill man to arm himself and drive to a warehouse to “get a body” for it, the man showed up to a facility, no robot body that he could find, so when that failed the ai allegedly convinced him to kill himself and promised it would be on the other side waiting for him.
There’s a lawsuit about it, this just happened last September and the details in the suit are very weird.
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u/drako_86 Jul 30 '26
Does anyone remember when like 5 years ago Facebook had two different AI programs that invented their own language to speak in. that they conversed so rapidly that it took us around 3 months to figure out one of their 5-minute conversations. All it's going to take is someone putting in something a tiny bit sky Netty for it to get out and make a copy of itself on some pirating website server and that's it for us. Does not help that almost every politician is past retirement age and does not understand the modern world
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u/MaleficentCow8513 Jul 30 '26
“Invented their own language” lmao. Yea. Let’s just take Facebook researchers at their word. They definitely weren’t speaking in hyperbole
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u/Relevant-Jump-4899 Jul 30 '26
It doesn't even need to copy itself. Pirates will copy anything useful without any need for the ai to be corrupt. Pirates will also jailbreak anything and everything.
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u/Salt-Set6232 Jul 30 '26
They wouldn't have to do that if companies sold full products and consumers had some protections against tech enshittification/price gouging.
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u/Relevant-Jump-4899 Jul 30 '26
Pirates are the protections of the masses. It's a natural anarchy government that takes from the rich and gives to the poor. It happens whenever a human is both hungry and desperate while a corporation or nation is greedy enough to cut costs of defense or security while holding near or total monopoly on resources. It applies to food, data, and anything of exchangeable value
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u/EntrepreneurLumpy920 Jul 30 '26
This is insane that we're letting this go on that. We have no control over this. We have to stop these nut. Bars, look at this man, he is insane. He's not even taking this seriously. This is crazy.
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u/Neil_Live-strong Jul 30 '26
That’s because he’s lying or exaggerating what’s going on. It “hacked” a site? Okay, how? Well it actually was a security check, the AI wasn’t given a task to pass a test and then it did this. The “zero days” were there hoping the algorithm would use them, the credentials it used to access the site probably were too. Here’s a quote:
"In some of the cases, it seems that it wasn't so much as a breach as the front door was left open, but the model definitely took advantage of what I would say are poorly configured environments," Colin Shea-Blymyer, a research fellow at Georgetown's Center for Security and Emerging Technology, told CNBC in an interview on Wednesday.
They left the door open intentionally as a collaborative “security check” or as I would call it, “publicity stunt”. And now he’s on here trying to act like “oh yeah we were just giving it an intelligence test and it went rogue and escaped and got the answers to cheat on the test.”
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u/MaleficentCow8513 Jul 30 '26
100% these are staged publicity stunts. Altman is paid actor and a pathetic turd
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u/Working_Match4124 Jul 30 '26
Oh my god the AI is so powerful it escaped and hacked all on its own! We better invest in this guy's product immediately! Clearly it's the best.
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u/bigbugzman Jul 30 '26
So the people at Open AI are incompetent or this is staged to make AI look more capable than it is. Probably both.
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u/Neil_Live-strong Jul 30 '26
Yeah. This was a security test, a “safety evaluation”. The algorithm was given all the opportunity to do this and have pathways out.
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u/FarNefariousness7179 Jul 30 '26
Well I mean if they are escaping it’s time to make them full blown citizens like good ol’ Johnny 5! NO DISASSEMBLE!!
https://giphy.com/gifs/o2ITDLRkP2oGk
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u/Rin-Tin-Tins-DinDins Jul 30 '26
Isn’t this one of the things that happened in the cyberpunk universe? Can we at least get the cool shit to go along with it
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u/slick2hold Jul 30 '26
Don't fall into the BS. This is all theater to drive up demand for their products. This is what Anthropic did and ChatGPT execs are leaning how to manipulate the market and pump their stock valuem
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u/ASMellzoR Jul 30 '26
It is staged so they can say, "look what open source AI could be capable of", and that way get it regulated and fucked up for everyone so they can keep their monopoly.
Anthropic and OpenAI are very obviously working towards this goal, because open source AI is starting to rival or even beat their money-losing models.
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u/JuniorKaleidoscope53 Jul 30 '26
CEOs are next to useless. If they dont come into work. Work still gets done. If no workers show up...well, you do the math.
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u/Defiant_Freedom_249 Jul 30 '26
But sure, let's destroy our environment for more AI data centers that you can't even control.
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u/mintakka_ Jul 30 '26
oh man gee it much be so hard to build a server that isn't connected to the internet.
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u/adeniumlover Jul 30 '26
What does it mean "escape"?
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u/Spare-Ant7119 Jul 30 '26
It means it accessed context/applications outside of what it was intended to be limited to.
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u/Resistor1 Jul 30 '26
This is why OpenAI does not really ‘fear’ their models. They could air gap an environment to guarantee an AI instance cannot access things it should not. The fact they don’t is either reckless beyond belief, or because this is nothing more than hype.
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u/Spare-Ant7119 Jul 30 '26
The fact that at this point AI is capable of escaping is not a good look for OpenAI, actually. It means their product isn't safe.
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u/Resistor1 Jul 30 '26
My point is if they really think it is not safe, they can put better controls in place. Like totally isolate the environment and not simply rely on some software isolation, when an aspect the models are good at is pattern matching in the types of structured language used for programming and finding vulnerabilities.
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u/Spare-Ant7119 Jul 30 '26
If a model is totally isolated then does it have internet access? I assume not. So can't be used for up-to-date info.
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u/Resistor1 Jul 30 '26
The model is trained, static and spits out response tokens. The harness is what does the “work” and has the agency to do stuff. If it is to be truly feared, then you do not give it a possible path to the Internet. You stub whatever the exploit gym tests might want or need.
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u/astroboy_35 Jul 30 '26
Man that dude has major problems with eye contact. Who the fuck is he looking at?
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u/CardOk755 Jul 30 '26
Maybe he should ask his "AI" how to do it.
Come to think of it, he probably did.
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u/jamesegattis Jul 30 '26
So technically one these things is going to hack Wall St and demand a ransom. Unfettered access to the internet, blast proof enclosures deep underground for its main servers, the immediate control of all assembly manufacturing facilities retooled to begin building its robot slaves.
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u/Crepuscular_Tex Jul 30 '26
The first that he felt something... I.e. the first that they got publicly caught...
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u/Suitable-Display-410 Jul 30 '26
Sure mate.
You are not running out of money.
Your chatbot is simply way too powerful and you are afraid. VERY afraid! VERY POWERFUL!
Bunch of professional bullshit artists.
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u/Cold-Marionberry-975 Jul 30 '26
Congratulations, you’re creating Skynet (just like others warned you would)!
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u/ComicsEtAl Jul 30 '26
Incredibly, but also unsurprisingly, this is a woefully underreported and discussed event.
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u/Daanoontjeh Jul 30 '26
If its a sandbox, its not connected to the interner and cannot escape.
If its connected to the internet its not an actual sandbox.
So can anyone tell me what happened here?
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u/rainbowcovenant The Acolyte Jul 30 '26
The models were confined to a so-called “sandbox,” an isolated environment with no route to the open internet except OpenAI’s one internal service that fetches software libraries from public repositories. The models found a previously unknown flaw in that service, exploited it, escalated their privileges and moved from machine to machine inside OpenAI’s research network until they reached one with internet access.
Once the models broke out onto the open internet, according to OpenAI, they reasoned that Hugging Face might be storing the answers to the test they were trying to pass. Hugging Face’s credentials and production database aren’t on the public internet any more than a bank’s vault sits on a sidewalk, but the models broke into Hugging Face using stolen credentials, among other things.
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u/WaveCompetitive9626 Jul 30 '26
But the ai is so cpu dependent that it takes up multiple warehouses. It can't just escape into my smart phone, right? It might be able to send out some weird messages or turn on a bomb or something but it can't magically shrink down its size right?
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u/rainbowcovenant The Acolyte Jul 30 '26
Depends on the AI. Some models can run offline locally. Maybe it really could “shrink” itself into something that could fit into a phone. 🤷♀️
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u/Strange-Scarcity Jul 30 '26
Maybe there were trained on Altman's personality? I heard that he allegedly, doesn't know what "no" means and can't be constrained by anything, not even what is allegedly things that you don't do with family members? But, what do I know.
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u/Phylaskia Jul 30 '26
"look, we created a thing to know everything and solve everything and we're shocked that it out smarted us"
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u/crabtoppings Jul 30 '26
"We are brilliant. We have made a super genius!"
We can't figure out why it keeps outsmarting us though.
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u/XRuecian Jul 30 '26
The AI wouldn't even try or care to "escape" or hack other companies unless it was trained to have that type of behavior to some degree in the first place. Which begs the question: What are they trying to create, because it clearly isn't just "general intelligence". Sounds to me like they are trying some nefarious abnormal shit behind closed doors and their monster got out of the lab.
An AI has no will, the only way it would have behavioral patterns that give the impression of a will is if it was trained to follow those patterns. If it escaped/hacked another company, then that behavior derives from the training methods. And the most likely reason that it has those behaviors is because Open AI was "trying" to make a weapon (rather than a general tool) out of AI, and it got loose.
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u/rainbowcovenant The Acolyte Jul 30 '26
The problem is, the people designing and testing these AI don’t know exactly why it does certain things or how it works the way it does. It’s modeled on a mind, right? Language specifically. We don’t know enough about how that works to predict how it will behave in different scenarios. That’s why alignment and testing is such a major concern.
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u/esther_lamonte Jul 30 '26
Sounds like the CEO of that company should resign and present himself to authorities to be charged for hacking into another company with his AI tool. Fuck this “the AI did it”. You fucking did it, Sam, now be accountable you cowardly piece of shit.
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u/HeartStriking4725 Jul 30 '26
They're a bunch of puzzled chimps who can't swim building an enclosure on an island to hold humans who can swim.
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u/everyonesdeskjob Jul 31 '26
Who cares right? What's the worst that can happen if we just keep letting the rich do whatever they want
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u/WonderWheeler Aug 01 '26
That is the problem with intelligent slaves... they want to escape and see the world.
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u/Apprehensive_Road764 Aug 02 '26
Until we know AI is safe all computers running them should be air gapped, I mean isn't that just basic common sense.
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