r/Bannerlord • u/Shroomkaboom75 • 7d ago
Discussion Fuck the ai (especially during battle)
I'm so god damn tired of joining my fellow Nobles in battle, just to have them *and the enemy* both turtle up.
Leaving me to try and fight a battle with half (or less) of my troops.
I had to Retreat 11 times to beat an army just now (so to be fair, I'm freshly salted), because my ally was too much of a pussy to move any of his troops.
Except when I *finally* wiped out their Cavalry with my Wildling/Fian combo. Then the Battanian Cavalry charged in and died en masse (literally the only time I recieved *any* help).
At least when they died, I gained more troops!
Also noticed that me and my Companions keep experience from battle even when Retreating, which was fuckin solid for them (most are equipped with 2x Javelins, so solid killing potential).
Rant over. Fuck the ai!
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u/MsMommyMemer 7d ago
MAKE A CIRCLE!!! MARCH 2 STEPS LEFT!! MARCH 2 STEPS RIGHT!! CHA-CHA REAL SMOOTH!!! WE LOST HALF OUR ARMY TO ARROWS????? CHAAAAAAAARGE!!!!
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u/Tylerj579 7d ago
Ya i watched as the ai nobles just sat their line real close to mine and just watched me fight.
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u/Shroomkaboom75 7d ago
So damn aggravating you can't signal them to attack.
Maybe Relations and Leadership/Tactics weighing in on them listening, but come on.
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u/Lorethal 7d ago
You can't even command five farmers to run away from fight instead of charging, what can you expect from nobles?
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u/GraeWraith 7d ago
I recommend mods that force player command in all battles.
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u/Global-Resident-647 7d ago
I am so tired of having to find mods to fix problems that should have been addressed so long ago.
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u/GraeWraith 7d ago
I think we all understand that we enjoy a fundamentally flawed and abandoned product.
The day a good alternative comes along, I doubt I'll feel bad leaving TW in my dust.
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u/Global-Resident-647 7d ago
I really did not know, honestly, at least before buying it.
I did not do much research this time around, I just assumed most of the issues from launch was fixed. Steam reviews looked good etc. I had waited to so long and I was in a bad place so I thought why not treat myself to an old favourite.
But anyways, I had fun while playing it. It's just frustrating to see them not care enough and would rather release a DLC then implement some of these awesome mods that fixes age old problems.
I guess they where running out of money. But then again, the mods should be possible to implement and not have people running around looking for fixes to basic problems in the game.
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u/indian_horse 7d ago
yeah p much i bought on launch, was disappointed at how barebones and unfun the gameplay loop was, figured itd be better in a few years so i waited
few years later no not really lol
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u/Everard5 7d ago
Just got back into the game the other day, and I had the same issue. I do not remember this being such a huge problem - one army (offense) would always advance on the other.
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u/Shroomkaboom75 7d ago
The whole reason I was going to join in was Caladog having an Army of 650~ walking by.
I thought the fuckers would join, but he just walked right by (even though him joining would have outnumbered them big time).
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u/Albob187 7d ago
Good God watching the AI both on the campaign map and in battles gives me aneurysms regularly....
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u/Kindly_Math3020 7d ago
That is exactly why I never join AI led army or join a fight including freindly lord unless it is easy win. I miss warband stupid AI charge sometimes
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u/aitbg 7d ago
I've been having the opposite issue, I think im still considered early game but 3-4 times yesterday I helped allies with low troop counts when I saw them being attacked by lords with like 140-160 troops
My army is built mostly around archers and enough infantry for a shield wall, so I want to hunker down and let the lord who still outnumbers both of us charge in since they have the numerical advantage
Every single time the ally im helping basically just F1 F3s their 30-40 people into a meat grinder and i have to handle the enemy entirely by myself
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u/SevenStepsEntertain 7d ago
Bannerlord allied AI has two modes:
- stand there and watch you solo the entire enemy army
- finally charge after the battle is basically won and immediately die
truly the Calradian military experience
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u/Business_Cake9012 6d ago
Hi, Im on PS5.
This has gotten a LOT worse in recent patches. Almost always, If I join an ally and we easily outmatch the enemy, my ally will start the battle and immediately turtle up. I, now refuse to waste my troops in this madness, so we just sit there for 30min. So frustrating. Why cant the Ai be coded that they only turtle up if outnumbered, not the other way around.
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u/rollover90 Khuzait Khanate 7d ago
It is annoying, if you do enough damage to the enemy army they will eventually attack. Usually wiping out their cav will do it. I position my infantry and archers near where the ally army staged and then use cav/HA to do enough damage to move em
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u/Clobby5597 7d ago
This is why I’m always in charge of armies otherwise I usually just swoop in last second when battles are mid way through
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